Talk:Ben Mitchell (EastEnders)

Vandalism

This page is constantly being vandalised by someone who seems to dislike the image. Maybe we should find another one that they would approve of, lol.Gungadin 19:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No, we can't bow to the vandal's wishes. I've reported the long-term problem here. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

They'll never approve of any image because they don't like the character. However, I can't seem to keep it removed from the actor's page, where it's not allowed! — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you disambig Grant Mitchell, please. Thanks 86.130.135.38 16:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

This article needs sorting out... it's just a long list of 'Ben did this' and 'Ben did that'...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.82.70 (talk) 14:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC) 82.38.83.222 (talk) 21:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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Sources

• Mitchell kids to return to Walford -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
• Eastenders manic marry-go-round exposes weak plotlines. Nice article describing Ben as "weird kid", "budding homosexual" and "disjointed dork".
• Grace Dent's world of lather. Grauniad column from 2006 predicting that Ben will "be on top of the community centre with a rifle using [Peggy's] wig as target practice" by 2010.
• Complaints made to BBC about bullying of Ben Mitchell. (Not enough?)
• BeastEnders. Sunday Mirror article from 1997 likening Ben to a chimp.

Bradley0110 (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

• [1]RaintheOne ^BAM 23:19, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
• Ben is evil - JuneGloom Talk 22:42, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Article rewrite

Kudos to Frickative for her recent rewrite of this article. Here's hoping a nice "Exit storyline" section can be added soon... Bradley0110 (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I want Ben to stay in the show. I want to see him grow into a man. I want to know what he'll be like! And I hope they keep the same actor on. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Um, what does Kevin O'Sullivan have against homosexuals? Can Wikipedia please post a little less interviews or reviews that are sexually bigoted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.152.144 (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

New Picture

Would it be ok to put Ben a New picture on due to the current one was in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheep 2009 (talk • contribs) 11:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, the image can be from any time, but I think a better one would be better. AnemoneProjectors 12:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Recast

It's been confirmed that Ben is being recast. Although he's "expected" to make a temporary departure, should we now say he's not departing at all? AnemoneProjectors 10:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I've changed it anyway, and added a "characters being recast" section to the list of characters. "Expected" to make a departure isn't confirmation that he will at all. Though the original source did say Ben was leaving... does the new source override that one? AnemoneProjectors 10:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Interesting! I'd say the new source definitely overrides the old one, and the 'recast' section is the best way to deal with it. Good stuff. Frickative 11:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Reception

There's some reception for Ben in this month's Gay Times. I'll add it when I can. (There's also stuff in there for Dot, Colin and Barry, Kim Fox, and Vanessa Gold (and Sharon)). –AnemoneProjectors– 13:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Villain?

Is Ben now considered a villain? And can we find a source so he can go on the list of soap opera villains? :-) –AnemoneProjectors– 14:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh no, he is a villain - I saw a source the other day! Where I dunno.Rain the 1 15:04, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Picture

Is it just me or does the picture look ridiculous with the two actors appearing to lean away from each other, leaving a massive gap in the focal point? Can both halves be mirrored so they lean to the centre, or just swap the two pictures round? U-Mos (talk) 22:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Looks pretty good to me, I think it's okay. George^Ping! 22:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

It's a crop of the image found here[2], we can't really edit it other than cropping. I think it's fine. –AnemoneProjectors– 09:49, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Wave of disruptive edits

This article needs semi pp until after the episodes concerning the supposed death have occurred. There is no confirmation the actor has left. It seems more likely another character will be the deceased but there is no source for that either...Rain the 1 08:32, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm with you on this. And have protected for 10 days. anemoneprojectors 09:02, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Section headers and images

Today I broke up the "Storylines" section with a few more section headers, and moved some illustrative images of Ben's actors to their appropriate places in those sections. These were pretty minor changes aimed at improving readability. @Soaper1234: then reverted, commenting "unnecessary". Soaper1234: explain. DBD 19:22, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I performed the edit since the storylines section is not generally broken down into different stories as it can become a bit too messy. I would strongly disagree with the idea that it improves "readability". The images are in the places they are because that is the infobox places them, and because they are more appropriate in the development section. Soaper1234 - talk 19:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

The plot section is too long because of excessive detail. I have always viewed subheadings in plot sections as a tactic to distract others from wanting to condense the plot. Subheadings work well in the development section and compliment the out-of-universe style they are written in.Rain the 1 20:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Formatting

Is there a reason this page follows a different format to every other EE wikipedia page? Would it not be better to have it conform to the same style as each other article? Tomski12 (talk) 11:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

The formatting is to suit what {{Infobox soap character}} calls for, which follows multiple MOS:ACCESS requirements, which we must follow as an encyclopedia. livelikemusic (TALK!) 13:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 27 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus (and little participation after a month). Without extensive evidence, it's hard to justify the "primary topic grab", and the current situation does not seem to inconvenience readers. No such user (talk) 12:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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Ben Mitchell (EastEnders) → Ben Mitchell – There is only one other page with the title "Ben Mitchell" and that is Ben Mitchell (rugby union). The Eastenders character is the WP:PRIMARY TOPIC having been in Eastenders since 1996. Sahaib3005 (talk) 09:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

• So what happens to the target dab page? In ictu oculi (talk) 15:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

  @In ictu oculi:, that could go to Ben Mitchell (disambiguation)Sahaib3005 (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

• Comment. Taking into account the above question and answer, I have initiated a discussion at Talk:Ben Mitchell (disambiguation)#Requested move 27 July 2021. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

— Relisting. – DarkGlow • 21:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.