Talk:Berlin Cathedral

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Oberhafenjunge in topic Not a Cathedral
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This article seems to have "evolved" naturally, mainly during the course of the first edits between Feb. and June 2004, and does not appear to be a classical "copy and paste text-dump". I would give serious consideration to the possibility that the copyright violation is the other way round. Several articles on www.sacred_destinations.com are remarkably similar to the Wikipedia articles, e.g. Cologne Cathedral / http://www.sacred_destinations.com/germany/cologne-cathedral.htm . (replace _ with - in the link - I don't want to pass page rank ;-) Ianb 07:42, 1 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Taking a closer look at several older revisions of this article, it looks like you're right about that. I'll be sure to look more closely before using the copyvio tag again. --Chrysaor 01:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I deleted the word "Lutheran" because the "Evangelical Church in Germany" (EKD) comprises Lutheran AND Reformed congregations. There are some local branches of the EKD being explicitly "Lutheran" like the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria. The "Evangelical Church of Berlin, Brandenburg and Silesian Upper Lusatia" is a "united" (Lutheran AND Reformed) church though. If you find a better linguistic solution, don't hesitate to change it again. Mk4711 (talk) 09:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Crypt

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This article should contain something about the Hohenzollern Crypt — which contains the tomb of Frederick William the Great Elector (d. 1688) and many others. Perhaps a condensation of the information at: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Dom#Hohenzollerngruft Sca (talk) 17:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Replaced the infobox photo

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I just replaced the infobox photo with a photo taken of the front instead of one taken from the river. The new photo is my own and normally I'm hesitant to push my own photo, but in this case I think it's the best. I've considered several candidates with comparable high resolution and quality: [1], [2], [3] and [4]. I think the last one is great because it doesn't have the perspective distortion many other photos have, including mine. Unfortunately it was taken in March so the vegetation is not as lively as in my photo, which was taken in August. It also hides the Fernsehturm partially and has a slightly distracting vapor trail. Of all the others I think my photo has the best lighting and the Fernsehturm and Rotes Rathaus as a nice bonus. I think my photo looks the most attractive, but if someone disagrees please say so and replace the photo if deemed necessary. --AlexanderVanLoon (talk) 08:10, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not a Cathedral

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I think the term Cathedral is incorrect on behalf of German Protestant churches, because a Cathedral needs a "Cathedra". Something you'll never find in a Lutheran Church! Even episcopal churches in the Anglican Church are named Cathedral, it's not possible for Lutheran ones.

The German Berliner Dom is correct, because Dom comes from Latin domus = house. Berlin Cathedral is St. Hedwig's Cathedral!

Wahrscheinlich hat diesen Artikel ein Deutscher geschrieben, der einfach übersetzt hat. Das aber geht nicht, denn es gibt keine lutherischen Kathedralen. Man kann im deutschen beim Berlin Dom nicht von der Berliner Kathedrale sprechen, denn das ist die (römisch-katholische) St. Hedwigs-Kathedrale. Für eine Kathedrale ist halt eine cathedra notwendig. Die gibt es in englischen Bischofskirchen, nicht aber in deutschen protestantischen.

St Giles' Cathedral in Scotland is Presbyterian and as such has no bishop or "bishop's chair" / cathedra. In the English language things are perhaps not as logical as they are in German. If the majority of reliable English languages sources call it Berlin Cathedral then that's its name in English. Greenshed (talk) 20:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

It would be nice to cite those english sources then, because the article contains none and neither do you mention specific sources to prove your point. Even of the few working links at the end of the article the ones calling it "cathedral" directly refer to wikipedia. One should not underestimate the fact that wikipedia calling it "cathedral" legitimises it in a way where other sources (mostly tourist information?) call it that way because wikipedia calls it like that. The Articles for Deutscher Dom and Französischer Dom aren't any better even though the parts called Dom are just the towers and not the churches themselves and there it really derives from the french word for dome (=dôme). There the Article for the Deutscher Dom is called "Neue Kirche" like the church not like the tower, and for the french one its called "French Cathedral" which is honestly ridiculous. Maybe there is a way to bring order into those three articles. That's the reason I would like to revive the conversation. Oberhafenjunge (talk) 17:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)Reply