Talk:Bleach: The DiamondDust Rebellion

Hello?

I already made the article. I forgot there wasnt a space in Diamond Dust.

So now there are two articles. One with Diamond Dust and the other DiamondDust. so can we merge please? RedEyesMetal 12:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirected Bleach: The Diamond Dust Rebellion to this article Pahajoki 13:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Names!!

If you are true to the Japanese version, the names should be surname then first name, such as Kurosaki Ichigo, not Ichigo Kurosaki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.92.14 (talk) 19:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, well, guess what. This is the English Wikipedia, and guess how people write their names in English? Your argument would only work if Ichigo was born in the 1800s before the Meiji Restoration, where the Japanese started using Western naming order when they were outside Japan. It'll always be Saigō Takamori, but it'll always be Ichigo Kurosaki because he's not over 200 years old.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 20:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You could have picked a better argument there... a good number of the Bleach characters are over 200 years old. --tjstrf talk 22:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

...well yeah, I guess. In terms of the real world though, they're all post-Meiji because they weren't sketched 200 years ago.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what you meant, but that sounds like the perfect way to confuse the newbie and lead to dumb arguments like wanting the names of all the senior captains reversed on the basis of their >200ness. It's easier to just say that it's the house style as an English-language publication. --tjstrf talk 22:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Title

Is there any reason we're simply calling this page "DiamondDust Rebellion" instead of the full title? This title isn't pure English like Memories of Nobody was.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 02:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Going by the criteria of WP:NAME, I could see a title discussion going either way. It's probably at the most common title right now, but not the most official/correct. --tjstrf talk 02:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm in favour of the names being as in the manga. Rukia Kuchiki just sounds weird to me.(82.132.136.216 (talk) 18:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC))

Official Movie Guide

If someone can read what's at this link, it would no doubt make for a much better article. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Uhhhhh....I just see a bunch of girls in thier 20s at that page. – J U M P G U R U @^{Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia} 17:26, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

...obviously you're supposed to download the file that page is for. Enter the code.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 21:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

A friend of mine bought that guide from Japan and gave it to me... it's sitting on my lap. It's got a movie summary, quotes, interviews with the character seiyu, lyrics to the song 'Hikari no Rokku' and a list of various merchandise. I'm not an expert in Japanese... but from what I can translate, a bit of it says that the King's Seal was on it's way to Soul Society, Hitsugaya was in charge of escorting it, he disappeared with the seal and SS accused him of treason, nothing we don't already know. There's also a bit about Ichigo finding him in the real world, but that I can't fully translate. I could write and send someone a copy if they're fluent. --Paper-Fan (talk) 02:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Canon...?

While we can't say anything just yet about this, unlike Memories of Nobody, there are some things that strongly suggest this movie COULD in fact be canonically tied in with the timeline. The fact that Kubo himself promoted the movie with a special chapter focusing in Hitsugaya further pushes that assumption...

Just because he helped doesn't make it canon, nor is it a judgment we can make without a source (besides, it's obviously not). — Someguy0830 (T | C) 08:19, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Both movies are not canon to the main storyline. There are references to elements from the actual show (Ichigo mentions that the two mysterious girls that attacked him did not look like vizards OR arrancar, and Hitsygaya's friend Momo is mentioned twice, but is never seen or heard), but these are more likely included in the script to reflect what was going on in the episodes currently airing at the same in as the movie was running in theatres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.159.15 (talk) 02:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry...I guess using the term canon was a little out of place. What I meant was...of relevance to the timelime, just like the Wii game. Y'know?

That is the definition of canon, and my original comment still applies. Just because Kubo designed the characters does not mean they're canon. It just means he helped. And still, just looking at the trailers shows us without much doubt that it can't be canon, since the current arc isn't over yet. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Reception

Do we know of anywhere that we could get a critic review of the movie? ANN provided box office info for the movie, so I think that if we could have some other form of reception, it would make the article more like other movie articles. Jezebel Parks (talk) 07:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it's extremely difficult to get sources with critical commentary in them in this regard, as they're all in Japanese media. The most we can do is bring up sales figures and ticket sales, which ANN does provide most of the time. Furthermore, including development, production, and other information that's commonly found in most high caliber-movie articles will also be difficult. The only way I see such information coming around is that the movie is released in the United States (which it likely will be), and there is a release with the DVD or something of the sort that will provide such information. Furthermore, as it will be in English, there'll be corresponding reception from sources we can pick out (Rotten Tomatoes, etc.). Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

DVD RELEASE DATE

Has it been announced yet? - 209.195.81.175 (talk) 07:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

DVD release date is at early-to-mid September, though this is unofficial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill114 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I remember see DVD release date was written on the page, but it is gone now. Are you saying the release date 2008 september? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fotte (talk • contribs) 10:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Fotte, it's still unofficial. But yes, it should come out around September 2008. --Paper-Fan (talk) 13:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

English VAs?

Why are there English VAs on there? There hasn't been word of this movie being released in the US and we were shown the first movie last month. There can't be English VAs listed already...unless it's been confirmed that we're getting this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.231.135 (talk) 05:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I do believe there was an announcement about them, but the infoxbox should be changed to the anime movie one anyway, which would make it all moot :P -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

There is no announcement for when the American dub will be produced or when it will be released... but those English VAs are listed here because the same characters from the show ALSO appear in the film, and if they do produce a dub, there is a GREAT chance the same VAs will reprise their roles, just as they did for the first film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.159.15 (talk) 02:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Followed by?

Under the followed by section, there is the title "Bleach: Fade to Black, I Call Your Name." Is there any source at all to this? 75.105.128.36 (talk) 08:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-07-15/third-bleach-film-first-major-film-have-titles-dates

Found it, can anyone add in the source for me? 75.105.128.59 (talk) 08:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes generally don't need a source. The info on the 3rd film is sourced in the main article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 09:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

They also mention it in episode 185. 75.104.160.39 (talk) 02:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, should we at least reserve a page for it? Skeletawn (talk) 02:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The page for it is currently salted because people kept creating pages for it with false info. Until the film is notable (i.e. released), its best not to have an article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 02:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Good faith???

ive edited the page to make it fit better so that the person who reads it can understand what happends.Please stop changing it and deleting my topic here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.49.138 (talk) 15:48, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

"Good faith" as in "not vandalism". The reason your addition was reverted was that you were inserting excessive levels of detail for some rather minor plot points in the movie. This is considered a bad thing because, in theory, Wikipedia's articles on fiction are supposed to focus mostly on the history of the work, rather than the plot summary. --erachima talk 16:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

King's Seal

the king's seal in the English version is called something like the ohwein. idk the correct spelling but shouldnt we remove king's seal and change it to whatever name they used in the dub?Bread Ninja (talk) 19:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

- What like THE ORIGINAL JAPANESE? The English version has the same meaning as king's seal, even if they use the original japanese instead.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.149.95 (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC) 

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