Talk:Boogie2988

Name correction

To be completely honest I don't know if a middle name needs to be included BUT if it is going to be included it needs corrected. His actual middle name is Jason. Mrk1024 (talk) 19:06, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Cancer

Should we really add in the part about him allegedly having cancer in this article? Unless there's a valid article that fact checked the reporting on this, I feel it should be removed. I understand this sounds callous, but once you understand the context of how manipulative Boogie can be and how he's been shown to do stunts to garner sympathy in an attempt to push back at controversies and negative attention, it's no surprise that many people are doubtful. 76.102.86.232 (talk) 10:35, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we have any reason to disbelieve this. At worst we could change it to "William's revealed he was was diagnosed with polycythemia vera..." (emphasis my own). That way we make it clear that it's coming from a primary source, rather than an independent one. That said, I'm not sure it's a necessary change. — Czello 11:21, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

In the new documentary, from 20:25 to 21:59 Boogie lists his confirmed medical diagnoses, and does not include cancer other than history of basal cell carcinoma.

Source: Clum, M. (2023). The Dark, Sad Life of Boogie2988 | Official Documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QgDx0RIWY8

Transcript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QgDx0RIWY8?t=1224

20:24 not here's everything that's wrong with low

20:30 testosterone testicular hypogonadism sleep apnea swelling due to

20:37 blockages of lymphatic flow soric eczema chronic back pain protein and urine

20:45 that's from kidney damage folks that is everything keeping me alive we have

20:50 lartin tramol buprofen culine uh did I deal with back pain I

20:57 deal with nightmare I'm always tired I don't know the last time I did sleep otherwise if I don't

21:04 wear this maet at night when I'm supposed to be sleeping I'm actually drowning in my own fat uh high blood

21:12 pressure history of gastric bypass intestinal malabsorption vitamin d

21:18 sufficiency because like most Gamers I hate the sun morbid obesity major

21:24 depressive disorder major anxiety disorder history of diabetes metis blood pulling

21:32 in veins varicose veins of the legs with complications degeneration of Lumbar or

21:39 lumbosacral inter invertible disc that means my back don't work so good history

21:46 of Basil cell carcinoma that's cancer and of course I can't breathe so good so

21:52 asthma and allergies as well so it's it's a waiting game now and saritonin (talk) 08:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

@Czello, I'm not hot on trusting a tweet from the subject about something like this given who they are. I'd think that the whole lot be removed and nothing said about it unless there are some reliable secondary sources. TarnishedPath^talk 11:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

It seems reasonable to me to say "he said he had been diagnosed with polycythemia vera" (rather than simply "he was diagnosed") as we're putting the emphasis on the fact that this is according to him. — Czello ^(music) 11:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Called it. 2601:642:4100:9ED0:C341:F1FC:D947:70CC (talk) 04:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I believe the information about Boogie's cancer, which he himself has admitted was a lie on a stream called "Lolcow Live," should be listed under the Controversy section. 2600:1700:BF40:A1E0:94CC:F99C:2DAF:C063 (talk) 02:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Fake cancer diagnosis.

On July 18th, 2024 it was revealed boogie was lying about a cancer diagnosis. His wiki page cannot be edited. He needs to go down in history as a cancer faker. Magnetgaijin (talk) 07:44, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

It was not revealed – right now it's just an accusation from Destiny. — Czello ^(music) 08:08, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

He literally admitted on air during the last few Lolcow Live podcast that he doesn't even know for certain that he has the cancer after being pressed on the matter multiple times, only that he has symptoms matching it and that he's treating it. 73.93.64.77 (talk) 12:08, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

From what I can see what he said was For now, we have been treating the Polycythemia Vera which is the cancer they told me that I have. Admittedly, though, he did say he's treating the symptoms and that he has more tests to do to confirm it, so it's vague at best. I'd say there's certainly not enough justification to include a statement that he was faking it (unless sources can be provided otherwise), but in light of this there might be an argument to removing it altogether as TarnishedPath above suggested. — Czello ^(music) 12:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

There is a discussion about this at BLPN. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 14:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, he's insisting that he is "Still being treated for cancer," but that is very obviously untrue. No doctor would treat someone for a cancer that hasn't even been diagnosed, and Boogie has stated multiple times his doctor has never even said the word "cancer." Doing damage-control for Boogie is not a good look. I don't have the time-stamps, but in more recent episodes of Lolcow Live, he has outright stated that he faked cancer for sympathy. There is no debate, the diagnosis and "treatment" is a fabrication. AndrewPilled (talk) 17:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

No one's doing damage control for him - we have strict rules on what we can include on articles about living people, which is why we need to discuss this carefully and only reflect what sources say. — Czello ^(music) 08:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)