Talk:Boss Corporation

Rebel Rebel, this page is a mess

I just stumbled across this page. Not only does it have so many facts wrong (release dates, etc), but it had a now-removed plea to fix those very same "facts" right in the paragraph.

[someone fix this- this mostly isn't true ds-2 came out in 1987- someone make this paragraph right- most of it is wrong- the hm-2 was much earlier)

I'm also amazed that there is but a brief mention of BOSS's other products, but no in-depth list or anything. There are pages for various of BOSS' products laying around too. So much work, so little time. I'm not an expert on BOSS effect pedals/sound shapers. I only know something of their drum machines/rhythm machines. Anyone wanna take this on? sugarfish (talk) 03:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Trademark

So is it BOSS or Boss? RickK 20:39, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

BOSS, per both its own website and Roland UK's. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:06, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

Please put the disambiguation notice for the South African Bureau of State Security back. BOSS was infamous in the 1970s. David | Talk 10:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

It was only removed in initial editing which despite my best efforts was cut short last night, it will be replaced today. Sorry for any trouble that may have been caused by this. Silmarillion ^(Talk) Wiki be With us! 13:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm as much a Boss fan as anyone else, but this article sounds more like a catalog than a Wikipedia entry. Delenir

Is this page an advertisement?

I have to agree that this page is basically one large advertisement for the company.

FIXED. Thank you very much! NIRVANA2764 19:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If this was an advert for Boss, I think they'd mention more of their gear than is mentioned on this page. Currently it mentions guitar effects processors ONLY. Looking at Bossus.com, I can see that this is just the first heading on the "Gear" menu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.153.45.54 (talk) 08:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

So-called Tone-changers

I guess it's more correct to call those pedals tone-shapers. At least I saw such a definition on lots of musical websites.

User edit

I removed Michael Balzary from the list of people that use Boss products. Balzary and Flea are the same person and Flea was already in there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phefner (talk • contribs) 04:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Someone has gone around and added Balzary to every list containing Flea. I'll try and clear that up at some point. I'm not sure this page merits a list of users though - after all it's much like listing writers who've owned a pen. *smb 23:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Artists who have used BOSS products

I believe this section should be completely removed. I can't think of any artist that never used any BOSS product. It's almost as having a list called "Programmers who have used Microsoft products". Only notable users (first users or endorsed players) should be listed, like Van Halen would be listed in a Peavey users list, with his Peavey 5150, for example. --SUBZ3R0 ^{( Talk | E-mail )} 19:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps not such a good analogy - I can think of a multitude programmers who never programmed or used MS products! (But this isn't the place to list them ;)195.153.45.54 08:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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Requested move

This page should be moved back to Boss Corporation. The name is not pronounced "B-O-S-S" and the letters don't stand for anything. Our manual of style for trademarks clearly indicates that in this case we should not reproduce the cosmetic all-caps rendering used by the company itself. —ptk✰fgs 05:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

• Concur, on WP:MOSTM grounds. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 22:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• Support unless any information is uncovered indicating that this is an acronym. Dekimasuよ! 09:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. It appears that Boss is not actually a corporation, rather a division of the Roland Corporation and a product brand name from Roland. From the Roland website: “BOSS is the division of Roland Corporation...” Can anyone provide more info? ●DanMS • Talk 01:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

They do describe themselves as "Boss Corporation". See: http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/en/index.html —ptk✰fgs 01:15, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, now I see the “Copyright 2004 Boss Corporation” at the bottom of the page, but that is about all we have. This is a little obscure—probably needs a little research from someone who is interested in the subject. ●DanMS • Talk 01:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

How about Boss (Roland)? —ptk✰fgs 02:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I would definitely argue against merging the Boss and Roland pages though! It's just like AOL/Time/Warner - they're all the same company 195.153.45.54 08:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

This article has been renamed from BOSS Corporation to Boss Corporation as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

list of effects pedals

i request a list on a table with model number and effect produced. =( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.129.13.155 (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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The first big problem

The article name is not appropriate. Nowhere on the Boss or Roland sites can I find reference to any "Boss Corporation." That indicates that it's a BRAND NAME, so perhaps a division or a subsidiary but certainly NOT a "corpoation" as repeatedly claimed by one "editor" after another.

Put Boss Corporation into a search engine and you'll readily wind up at https://www.bosscorporation.com/ (an emergency-planning consultancy totally unrelated to Roland).

FWIW, at www.boss.info, every usage of the name appears as BOSS, as in all caps. Until someone provides a link to the actual trademark registration, I intend to err on the side of the company itself rather than the specious (for lack of a better word) logic of random passers-by. (Toys "R" Us can appear however the hell THEY want it, despite anyone's cherrypicked rules of proper punctuation.)
Weeb Dingle (talk) 13:27, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree, there are various names we could change it too, for instance:

• BOSS
• BOSS (Music Company)

etc Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk | contribs)} 21:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Is a list really necessary?

The list featured concentrates on the compact pedal range, which changes from year to year and, eventually will become as long as a very long thing (to paraphrase Baldrick). IMO, it would be better to get rid of the list entirely - there are several fan and collector sites providing lists - and show an overview of all the equipment Boss has made, rather than concentrating on one part of the range.

SamXT (talk) 17:35, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree -- maybe we could add lists of all Boss's pedals, not just the compact line? Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk | contribs)} 21:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I meant the list should be scrapped entirely, rather than added to. There are fan sites which list every single Boss product; a simple, concise overview would be better here, IMO.SamXT (talk) 20:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, we should delete it and cover notable pedals in prose, offering proper encyclopaedic content instead of just a list of stuff — see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Popcornfud (talk) 21:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

@SamXT @Popcornfud I see your point, this is a regular article and not a list article; maybe we could put a full list of the pedal line on a list article, or get rid of it altogether. Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk / contribs)} 01:39, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed the list. Popcornfud (talk) 10:11, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

And I forgot to mention: the list was also completely uncited, so in violation of WP:VERIFY, obviously. Popcornfud (talk) 11:16, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, too bad it wasn't completely correct, because it would have been helpful to the consumer (even if it's not wiki's job) but perhaps a link to the right one we could find could be helpful. Sfthenerd (talk) 10:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I also agree with that. Urban Versis 32^KB ⚡ ^{(talk / contribs)} 23:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

FWIW, the list is still there, for me at least. SamXT (talk) 00:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Something else, re the list... The new RE-2 is claimed to use COSM modelling. I have no verification for this but to the best of my knowledge, Boss scrapped COSM some time ago. The product page doesn't state COSM, so I believe it's something different (possibly MDP?) SamXT (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

The list was restored without explanation by an anonymous editor, seemingly ignoring the discussion here, so I've removed it again. Popcornfud (talk) 03:36, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

The list is very helpful and should be restored. Who are you all to decide to remove it after 7 years?

If you're saying it isn't relevant to Boss Corporation then at least create a new wiki page dedicated to their pedals. Don't just remove the most thorough list of compact pedals. 2601:285:8081:14C0:509E:B1B3:EE4E:505D (talk) 13:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually, reading through the page it primarily only talks about boss compact pedals. The list absolutely should be a part of this page. Restore it. 2601:285:8081:14C0:509E:B1B3:EE4E:505D (talk) 13:08, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is specifically not supposed to be a catalog or to host product lists like this. I appreciate that you found it helpful, but it is not on-mission for this encyclopedia. I would encourage you to grab a copy of it and post it on some other website. MrOllie (talk) 13:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

DD 20 pedal manual

I need a dd20 owners manual 2601:204:D77E:670:64F9:5BE6:A07A:ACCD (talk) 00:20, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

This ain't the place to ask but I won't be arsey about it...

Look on the Boss website, under Support. The manual is available for download.SamXT (talk) 00:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Notable pedals

Based on available sources, I feel a number of Boss pedals could have standalone articles, but those articles just become tech jargon overkill; plus, I'm not that motivated. So instead I think providing overviews of some classic pedals is warranted. I'm no pedal circuitry expert, so I tried to just stick to what sources say. I'm sure other pedals could be added. I mostly just know overdrives. Comments? Criticisms? Mbinebri (talk) 17:25, 31 July 2023 (UTC)