Talk:Box office
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editAs a non-USA citizen, I'm still not clear on what "box office" refers to. In simple terms - is it referring to cinemas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beverfar (talk • contribs) 14:02, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Is this a dab?
editThis doesn't look like dab to me, if there are no objections I'll remove the {{disamibg}} soon.--Commander Keane 15:47, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- I totally agree. Tedernst | talk 16:38, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Etymology
editThe term "box office" originates from William Shakespeare's Globe Theatre. In the olden days, entry into the lower parts of the playhouse cost a single coin, and this fee was collected in small, locked boxes with entry slots in the top. Upon the boxes being filled up, a runner would take the coin-filled box to a back room where it was counted and stored. Hence, the room associated with the financial aspects of the theatre became known as a box office.
I reworded this and removed the reference to the Globe Theatre, which was unreferenced and seemed dubious to me. I doubt whether they had a completely unique system of collecting money giving rise to the term box-office.OneVeryBadMan 14:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sceptical about this whole Etymology. It sounds like an internet myth. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a box(-)office is "the office at which seats may be booked for a theatrical performance or other entertainment (orig. for the hiring of a box)." So it's named after the fact that you could hire a box (ie, partitioned-off seats at the theatre) and nothing to do with coin-boxes. (MRJ) 82.211.88.22 16:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
The Shakespearean origin is also mentioned in Bill Bryson's Shakespeare: The World as Stage. No reference or source is cited, but the book on the whole does try to clearly differentiate between facts supported by evidence and unsubstantiated speculation. 83.87.238.204 (talk) 16:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Scepticism seems justified, but the items were found in archeology at the South Bank theatres. Reference to this effect added.--AntientNestor (talk) 07:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Merge
editI'll perform the merge myself if an involved editor doesn't do it in the next few days. Okiefromokla questions? 01:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Expound on Box Office Site - Incomplete - Should Be Edited
editThe links to Box Office Sites is very much lacking and should be edited. There are more box office sites than are listed on this page. Such as The Box Office Junkie and Box Office Spy. I strongly feel these sites, would add/contribute to Wikipedia's goal of be and infinite source of information for people to explore. May an editor please respond or edit, it would be appreciated. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.117.187.241 (talk) 04:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Blanking Box office slump section
editThe Box office slump section has had the Unreferencedsection tag for over a year now. The definition given seems self explanatory and vague. Despite this, very precise statements about the durations of specific slumps are given. References are not given for the many numerical figures given; these can probably be sourced as raw data. But it seems unlikely that significance of the figures and the conclusions drawn from them can be. I am therefore removing the section based on WP:OR criteria.--RDBury (talk) 01:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
the formula seems out of place
editWhy is the formula of (TWG/2) - Budget on this page at all? IT has nothing to do with the term box office. And it just just haphazardly thrown into the middle of a paragraph with no explanation of WHY it is there. Not to mention, it is a dubious formula to begin with. At best it is a simplified broad estimate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:D500:3D00:C993:BD1B:2942:6CC3 (talk) 09:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
Box office (office) vs. Box office (sales)
editThe metonymic use of "box office" to mean "retail ticket sales" is a distinct concept from the physical or virtual agency that actually sells tickets or reserves seats. They deserve separate articles, per WP:NOTDICT. I'm not sure what the best names for them are: perhaps box office (the selling agency) vs. ticket sales? --Macrakis (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- Concur. "Box office" should stay for the physical, but I too can't think of a name for the metonym article.--AntientNestor (talk) 09:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Outdated
editMuch of this information is outdated. In fact, the section about the rentals and the split between theaters and studios is from a book that was released in 1985, not 2005 as it says in the citation. This is basically useless 40 years later. leparsdon (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)