Talk:Bridget Marquardt
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Infobox
editI think perhaps maby the infobox should be added to. I have been curious as to what her height and weight (especially weight, lol) was. She seems to be alot like Nicole Richie before she lost alot of her weight. I imagine she would be around 5"3' or so maby. Xaritix 04:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Height - was listed at 4'5" on the offical site is listed as 5'5". I made this change :)
Age?
editSHE"S ONLY 31, the birthday is wrong...hef wouldn't be dating a near 40. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.155.247 (talk • contribs) (00:22, September 12, 2006
- A birth year of 1973 calculates out to age 32 according to my calculator (with her 33rd birthday coming up later this month). IMDB confirms the birthdate. --Elonka 07:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Bridget Marquardt (married name) shows up under public records searches as being 33. Bridget Sandmier (maiden name) show up as being 45. Apparently when she got married, she regressed in age by 12 years.
- Maybe because you spelled it Sandmier which is wrong. It is Sandmeier.Rogue Gremlin 02:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I think you guys should look into a few things...
editI've always wondered why, and how Bridget is living with Hef. Myself, and some former coworkers from a now renamed and relocated skate shop in Antioch California, (Ooga Booga, now The Vault) have met Bridget, and were introduced to her as being Chad Marquardt's, (the owner's) wife. I met her in 2000, and I knew she had previously been in Playboy, and had seen the magazine that she was in. This just weirds me out that she lives with Hef and even uses Chad's last name still. I wonder if/how she swept all of this under the rug. This is definitely something I'd like to know more about. Maybe someone could investigate a bit.
There should be something added about Bridget's marriage. Bridget's maiden name is Sandmeier. She married Chad Christopher Marquardt in 1997, when she was 24 years old. Bridget is still married to Chad Christopher Marquardt as of November 14, 2006.
- If someone can find some verifiable sources, it would be a great addition to the article! Dismas|(talk) 22:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- What would be an appropriate source to cite? There exists a marriage certificate.
Bridget's Marriage to Chad Marquardt
editWhat would be an appropriate source to cite? The subject has been discussed at other websites. Is a link to that good enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.67.67 (talk • contribs)
- It would depend on how reputable the source was -- The Smoking Gun as opposed to some random gossip blog. —tregoweth (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me, but none of this entire article includes any verifiable sources. In fact, her entire biography save for one sentence is copied from her official biography on her fan page. Bridget is married; it's included in her IMDB entry, and I have not seen another entry that requires a copy of the marriage certificate before they will allow it to be included in the entry.
Lucida.ann 18:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- No one is trying to cover up Bridget's marriage for her. I am on SP too and I know she is definitely married to Chad, and how irritating it must be, but Wiki is not run by one person. It's just lots of ordinary editors who are trying to abide by Wiki rules, which are very clear on needing proof -- Bridget's page is NOT being given any sort if special treatment. EVERYTHING here requires proof. I have had literally hundreds of edits reverted or questioned because I did not provide concrete proof. It would be rare to find a Wiki editor who has not experienced that. Britney, Lindsay Lohan, -- they have had relationship details removed tons of times for lack of proof. Heck, Wiki rules won't even allow me to put my own marital status on my page (I am a novelist) because my marriage has never been mentioned in the press. Most celebs' marital status is a matter of public record. The reason Bridget's marriage requires proof is because Bridget denies it, and because she is not famous enough for the media to investigate her. Look at it from Wiki's point of view. They can't post something as controversial as a secret marriage on nothing more than the word of some anonymous posters. Maybe you could contact the Enquirer or another tabloid, they could track down and print a copy of the certificate, or interview her husband, and that would be evidence. 81.1.93.171 11:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- How about Chad himself? He's posted all over the place that they're still married.
- No one is trying to cover up Bridget's marriage for her. I am on SP too and I know she is definitely married to Chad, and how irritating it must be, but Wiki is not run by one person. It's just lots of ordinary editors who are trying to abide by Wiki rules, which are very clear on needing proof -- Bridget's page is NOT being given any sort if special treatment. EVERYTHING here requires proof. I have had literally hundreds of edits reverted or questioned because I did not provide concrete proof. It would be rare to find a Wiki editor who has not experienced that. Britney, Lindsay Lohan, -- they have had relationship details removed tons of times for lack of proof. Heck, Wiki rules won't even allow me to put my own marital status on my page (I am a novelist) because my marriage has never been mentioned in the press. Most celebs' marital status is a matter of public record. The reason Bridget's marriage requires proof is because Bridget denies it, and because she is not famous enough for the media to investigate her. Look at it from Wiki's point of view. They can't post something as controversial as a secret marriage on nothing more than the word of some anonymous posters. Maybe you could contact the Enquirer or another tabloid, they could track down and print a copy of the certificate, or interview her husband, and that would be evidence. 81.1.93.171 11:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's very odd that people keep saying that Bridget's marriage to Chad can't be addressed in her Wiki article because of "lack of proof." There is a marriage certificate showing that the two were married. There is no resulting divorce decree showing that their marriage has been dissolved. Therefore, the lack of such a decree can be interpreted as proof that they are still married. 67.162.136.179 04:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- There is a big difference between a marriage certificate (proof) and an anonymous internet post claiming there is a marriage certificate (not proof). We can't even prove those E! posts were from Chad, especially now they've been deleted. I mean, I know he really is her husband, because I've talked to him, but what does that prove? Simply saying something's true isn't proof that it is. If Chad had ever talked to the press, or you can find a copy of that marriage certificate, that would be proof. 81.1.93.171 11:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's very odd that people keep saying that Bridget's marriage to Chad can't be addressed in her Wiki article because of "lack of proof." There is a marriage certificate showing that the two were married. There is no resulting divorce decree showing that their marriage has been dissolved. Therefore, the lack of such a decree can be interpreted as proof that they are still married. 67.162.136.179 04:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
And why does her sister share the last name Marquardt?
- She doesn't. Her name is Anastasia Case. Look her up on IMDB. 67.162.136.179 04:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Someone should tell her to stop using the name on myspace, then.
- Ana uses her sister's name as a kind of stage name, firstly because everyone assumes they have the same name, and secondly to protect her privacy by keeping her real name secret. Some people online who know her have shared her real last name, but her real name as never been in print or on the show. There's nothing unusual about her using a stage name - after all Holly's real name isn't Madison. 81.1.92.45 15:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Reliable Sources?
editIf we aren't allowed to have IMDB as a source to confirm Bridget's marriage to Chad Marquardt, then I suggest the link under "References" to Bridget's IMDB entry be removed.
Also, if we aren't allowed to use "self-published" sources, then why is Bridget's Official Website also linked under the "references" section?
Lucida.ann 18:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- Her IMDb profile can be used as a source for filmography info. See Wikipedia:Citing IMDb. Dismas|(talk) 18:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your polite answers to my inquiry. I do believe a reliable source such as "the smoking gun" will be forthcoming.
2 sources
editAlso here are 2 links, Her personal webpage stating "Earned her Master's degree in Communications from the University of the Pacific in Stockton" [1] and a webpage about a study she did at the university stating " A Pilot Study Designed to Measure Patients' Self-Concept, Desire for Information and Uncertainties for a Proposed Experimental Study to Improve Overall Health Satisfaction. Bridget Sandmeier, University of the Pacific" [2]Rogue Gremlin 02:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also on the DVD, the premiere episode, as Bridget talks about going to school, they scan over her degrees. If you freeze-frame it...her bachelor's degree from Cal State-Stockton says "Sandmeier," while her M.A. from University of the Pacific says "Sandmeier-Marquardt." And if you watch the first episode you see Bridget was crying and telling the camera how "when she sets her mind to something she really goes after it". and "my husband who just likes to make fun of the show, says 'she is only with hef to get in the Mag'"Rogue Gremlin 02:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
No source on the Izabella St. James portion of her biography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.59.149 (talk) 01:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Uh, what? It's sourced to the book. And books, especially biographies, are reliable. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
St. James' book was an AUTOBIOGRAPHY not a biography. No other source confirming or denying the information about Bridget. No reference to the book. What's written on paper doesn't make it accurate or true. Just ask James Frey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.59.149 (talk) 13:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't work that way. Per WP:RS, "Wikipedia articles should rely primarily on reliable, third-party, published sources," which are "credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand." As one of Hefner's former girlfriends, St. James is trustworthy about the subject at hand. The book was published by a third party source, and it went through a reliable publication process. The book is reliable, and there's no two ways about it. If you still don't like it, though, we can take this elsewhere. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
A one sided autobiography that presented the story as a rumor and not a fact is not a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.59.149 (talk) 14:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sigh. Thread opened at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Bridget Marquardt. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 14:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- According to the discussion at RSN, it is acceptable to put in, "as long as it's written in the article that St. James made the claim, it's fine." As such, I've restored back to the version that has the claim. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 16:24, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Lil More
editWiki does not say biographical info from IMdb is unnacceptable. Here is there standard on "Unacceptable usage" The IMDb tends to be weak, or the least, more open for abuse or mis-attribution when discussing less objective matters such as anecdotes and trivia, as well as films which have not yet been released to the general public. Any trivia which was submitted to the film's IMDb entry should presumably have an origin in either secondary sources – interviews or press reports – or primary sources such as DVD extras and commentaries. These are better sources by WP:V's standards and should be used directly in the article if trivia is to be included.
Historically, the IMDb has a bad track record for information about unreleased films, with poor accuracy and timeliness of updates. Any information about unreleased films needs to be sourced from primary or secondary sources, as there is otherwise no way to verify even basic data. As per the film notability guidelines, articles about films should not be added until production is already underway, and even then, only if the film clearly meets existing notability guidelines. And again I am not being snippy just pointing out the facts. So unless as is states in the "Acceptable usage" part about IMdb, unless there is a website stating that she isn't married to Chad Marquardt the IMdb version is perfectly usable. Also on her own personal website she has banner adds for Ooga Booga Inc. oned by her husband(seperated} Chad Marquardt.Rogue Gremlin 03:02, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- IMDb, like Wikipedia, is a tertiary resource and should not be used as a reference, particularly when dealing with biographical content. It's one thing to link to it for its filmographies, but it's a completely different ballgame to cite it as a source. As mentioned above, primary and secondary sources should definitely be used; if we find out where IMDb received their information, we can determine its verifiability and reliability. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 03:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I would recommend reading this, which indicates the inherent problems in using IMDb as an information source. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 03:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Joe you need to reread IMdb is acceptable unless you can find a website stating she isn't still married to him, and her birthname isn't Bridget Sandmeier, which i think might come as a disapointmeent to her brother Edward Sandmeier, Her sister which was on TGND has a different last name because it is her half-sister by the man her mom got married to after divorcing Bridget's dad. Not to mention the link you just provided is NOT to a WIKI policy page but to a duscussion about what people think should be policy, Because you didn't think I would click the policy page of it to see this This proposal has been rejected by the community. A rejected proposal is any for which consensus to support is not present and seems unlikely to form, regardless of whether there is active discussion or not. Which means the discussion page you linked to means NOTHING.Rogue Gremlin 03:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also the link on her webpage I am referring to Ooga Booga Inc. is her online costume shop--"Bridget's Costume Shop" owned by Ooga Booga Inc.(Chad Marquardt)Rogue Gremlin 03:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And Joe if you read I told you exactly where to go on her dvd to see her name on her degreesRogue Gremlin 03:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't even understand why this is an issue. Bridget has talked about her marriage to the press (the recent magazine interview, which is the source cited for the statement about her being married). Considering there already is such a good, first hand source cited, I don't see why any other source should be needed for her marital status. As for her name, as has been said before it's a completely known thing -- her name has been said on the show, and in the press and official bios tons of times. I thought Wiki policy was that things should only be deleted outright (rather than tagged as unreferenced) if it is controversial or offensive. I've never heard of Wiki requiring proof someone's name is what they say it is.81.1.89.107 03:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Exactly my point, but these 2 just don't get it. And even try and point out things that were rejected by the community. Maybe one day they will understand. Until then I will keep a dialy check on this page unless they will to call for a "request for comment" on this discussion page about the subject. It should stay as she openly admits.Rogue Gremlin 04:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Marriage status
editI have now changed the status to divorced as the court records from the divorce, which are public, have been posted. This is the court website although I am not sure how to cite it? [3] Second link is not a source but explains the first source. [4] Queer Scout (talk) 11:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Queer Scout. Welcome to Wikipedia. Regarding this edit to Bridget Marquardt, two points need to be made:
- First, Wikipedia's Verfiability policy requires the cited sources to be reliable, verifiable, preferably third party sources. MySpace blogs are not considered reliable, because MySpace does not police its users' account creation, and thus, many celebrity pages have been created by people other than that celebrity. Similarly, anonymous posts on other blogs are not considered reliable for the same reason. You did the right thing by linking to a court site, but that page appears to be merely the site's main page, and does not contain any info about Marquardt. I even did a search for "Marquardt" using the page's search engine, and didn't find anything.
- Second, I don't know if you were the one who posted anonymous with the IP 80.44.181.25, but if not, then I will address it to that person: you should know that Wikipedia's policies also include Assume Good Faith and Civility. The Edit Summary "Court paper posted at talk page dont know enough lawspeak to understand it really?? What date were they divorced?" violates these policies. Please edit constructively, and politely Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note: 80.44.181.25 has pointed out to me on their Talk Page I completely misread their Edit Summary, in which they were expressing their own lack of ability in reading legal documents, and were not directing comments at others. I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part. Nightscream (talk) 05:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Incidentally, screenshots of sources are not reliable, because they're not verifiable. I verified this at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Nightscream (talk) 01:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
St James book
editAfter initially reverting an anon IP's removal of the text about her working at the Spearmint Rhino, I actually looked into this a bit more. The book in question, Bunny Tales, is available on Google Books, and I ran some searches against it. First, neither 'spearmint' nor 'rhino' are ever mentioned in the book. The word 'dancer' is in there twice, but neither result has anything to do with Marquardt. There aren't any other news articles, books or other reliable sources that mention her dancing there, either - and any that do are either mirrors or interpretations of this article. So based on that, I'm going to go against what I've said earlier on this talk page and undo my edit. If anyone feels that strongly about this and they want the text readded, then find the quote in the book and post here before readding it. Also remember that this article needs to uphold WP:BLP, so everything in it really should be accurate and verifiable. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 15:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Broken link
editI think the link:
^ a b Bridget Marquardt Official Site Bio
is broken.94.5.82.95 (talk) 10:55, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. That link shouldn't even be there. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 01:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
The link is broken again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.55.28.96 (talk) 02:40, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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