Talk:Britain's Got Talent/Archive 1

Archive 1

The show originated with the British format

If the show originated in the British format with the Paul O'Grady fronted idea surely the show is an original British format and not based on America's got talent? Conversely America's Got Talent is based on the British format even if they aired first? --90.192.92.23 14:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Simon Cowell is the one who is behind these shows: he does BGT and AGT; 80.229.149.192 (talk) 16:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Missing acts?

There were 3 acts in here alone that were let through but don't seem to appear on the SemiFinals list http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvp4Y4Go7c

The judges narrowed the list of all the acts they let through the auditions down to 24 and if I remember correctly George was not one of the ones that got through that elimination. However, they did drop two acts but decide to bring them back, Jake Pratt and Crew 82, making the total number 26. They still only showed 24 acts in the semi finals. Richard Bates stepped down as he was a registered sex offender but there seems to be no mention of why The Kit Kat dolls were left out. --172.141.147.20 11:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone's made changes to that...just thought I'd mention this so people reading this know not to look into adding something...I find it interesting that it was News of the World that ran the story, the newspaper PIERS MORGAN (one of the judges) worked for at one point :-) SmUX 10:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Music

Took me a long time to work out some songs used in the programme. One of which is something by Snow Patrol, Fix You by Coldplay, and Lux Aeterna (Two towers remix) by Clint Mansell (whoops sorry, logged in now.)

marc 11:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Isn't that Requiem for a Dream that's played? Neo222 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Tony Laf

Why does it say that Tony is in the final already?Jedi Master Bra'tac 15:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Tony's name is spelt wrong in the table of semi-finalists, it should be 'Laf' not 'Laff'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.111.164 (talk • contribs)

I have changed per this page http://talent.itv.com/page.asp?partid=316. AxG ^{@ ►talk} 11:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I was adding the Red Withdrawn Colour and I got the code wrong. I've fixed it though - Doctorwho12

Richard Bates

In the interests of WP:BLP, if you're going to mention his sex offender status, you might want to include his statement to the Sun at [[1]]. 24.148.66.96 18:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The Richard Bates reference in the table

Is there anyway of making a numbered link to the controversy section for more details, so that the citation that is currently next to his name can appear there?--Jcvamp 01:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I've brought both links together in both areas of the article, so that they are now also together in the references section. Bungle44 09:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Rating references

Can we try and find viewing figures from more open sources? The sources that seem to be popping up from viewingfigures.com aren't openly available at all times by the look of it, unless you have a full account. Bungle44 09:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I suggest BARB. [2] Dalejenkins 10:58, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

The article cites Saturday's show as having 8.9 million viewers; however the show numerous times told the contestants they were performing in front of '10 million people watching at home'. Were they just being optimistic or are we using the wrong sources?--172.141.147.20 11:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

They were probably using averages/estimates from previous shows. Dalejenkins 18:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Seperating the pages

As we know that BGT is to return in 2008 perhaps the 'Series 1' information should be split into its own page as is done with most TV shows such as Big Bother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enero778 (talk • contribs)

Good idea but the articles will be small, best wait until next year. AxG ^{@ ►talk} 21:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Yup wait; so at least the sectiopn has some decent content. P.S. I was in this show :) Got to audtion in front of the Judges :) Didn't get past them though lol. Look out for the guy doing Smeagol impression ;) 80.229.149.192 (talk) 17:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

That was not a bad impression, though. If you could do a few other characters as well, you may have had a chance. 129.97.248.133 (talk) 00:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Section on "Controversy"

In the section entitled "Controversy", it states: "Despite being named Britain's Got Talent, somewhat controversially there were no auditions held in either Scotland, Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland - leaving the show technically England and Wales' Got Talent.".

RoI should be removed from there as it is a Republic and is not a part of Britain. Anyone have any thoughts? Ptancred 15:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the entire section as it appeared to be WP:SOAPBOXing by someone who thinks the show was too England biased. I've also removed the "Rumors" (sic) section as rumours don't belong here. If anyone has reliable sources for any of these claims, feel free to re-add them. Magiclite 17:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

There was a small paragraph in this section suggesting that events were fixed by the producers, which was marked as "citation needed". I have removed it. If anyone can fully source it, please re-add it. Joe dawg 9 (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Damon Scott Runner-Up

I have taken off the comment that Damon Scott was the runner-up of Britain's Got Talent Series 1. This claim is not referenced, and is not commonly known. If anyone can reference this, please re-add it. 69.114.50.36 (talk) 15:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Iona

I've noticed in the past few episodes (particularly More Talent episodes 7 and 8) that they don't use Iona's last name. It is for this reason that I am removing it. The rationale is similar to why Chekezie's last name was removed from the American Idol page. Joe dawg 9 (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

You're right, she was referred to as just "Iona" last night. Digifiend (talk) 08:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I've just had to revert the names back to Iona. This is how she referred to on the show, and this page should reflect that. Does anyone else agree/disagree? Joe dawg 9 (talk) 20:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

10 in the final

Two new slots need creating in the series 2 results table, there'll be 10 in the final, but there's only 8 in the semis. Digifiend (talk) 08:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done -92.11.167.68 (talk)

Act Description in table

I just deleted this off the table, because it stretches the box and half of the descriptions were wrong (George Sampson was described as a comedian when he is a street dancer, for example). Should we keep them off, or not? -92.11.167.68 (talk) 11:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it is helpful additional information to see the variety (or not) of acts that have been selected. I didn't realise that this had been attempted before - my edit of this morning, subsequently enhanced by Neil, has been removed for no apparent reason. Anguswalker (talk) 13:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It is not helpful to put the act descriptions into the table as the OP mentioned, it does stretch the table somewhat considerably. Can we reach a consensus as to whether to keep them in or not? TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 14:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The descriptions are now right (I was stunned to see we have an article on musical canine freestyle), so I see no reason why they can't be there. There appears to be no good reason for removing them. Short descriptions do not stretch the table too much - it fits absolutely fine on my screen, and I am only on 1024x768. Neıl 龱 14:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm on 1024 as well, and it's causing the table to stretch so that the data in some cells is forced onto two lines, rather than one. You can see that there are no descriptions for the finalists in the first series, so why should they be there for the second series? TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 14:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I would respond with "why aren't they there for the first series"? Wikipedia's job is to be informative. I will try and find a reliable source and add the descriptions for series one. Which of the cells is causing problems for you, Chris? Just the Signature one? Neıl 龱 14:31, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Primarily, yes. It seems this issue has been sorted, since User:Anguswalker made a nice table listing the act types of all the semi-finalists. TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 14:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thanks Angus. Great work. Needs some tidying but that's much better. Neıl 龱 14:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Thanks for the improvements, I'm new to this! Anguswalker (talk) 15:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

'Buzzed off Prior to Completion'

This means that you only add the red to an act which didn't get to finish; not an act which got buzzed but still finished. I've had to clear this up a few times. -92.11.167.68 (talk) 20:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you. Being buzzed off only means getting all 3 buzzers prior to completion. I'll go and revert to the original format now. TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 20:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm currently unsure as to whether or not Phil Blackmore should be red on the table. Despite getting the three red Xs, the act ended (almost exactly) at that point. Also, during the third semi-final, Ant and Dec referred to The Deans of Magic as being the first act to get all three buzzers. Thoughts anyone? Somestrangeflea (talk) 21:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

He shouldn't be read. If they said on the show that The Deans of Magic were the first to be buzzed out, then Phil was buzzed out after he had finished the main point of his act. So no, he shouldn't be red. TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 21:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• Right, stop this. We need a consensus over Phil Blackmore. Should he be red or white?

Don't add a note in until the issue has been resolved!

I'm voting for a White box since it was recognised by Ant & Dec that the Deans of Magic were the first to be buzzed off prior to completion, and that would indicate the shows official stance on the matter.

Regarding the note, I'm against any note being added since it is superfluous information. If you add that in about Phil, why not add a note about George Sampson recieving a record number of votes?

Ixistant (talk) 10:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I vote for white. And another unregistered user made it red again... TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 14:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It needs to be white. Blackmore wasn't buzzed off prior to completion - Ant and Dec actually said the sexy magic pair were the first to be buzzed off. Neıl 龱 15:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Please check for unverifiable information...

When I go to this page ("Britains Got talent", with apostrophe) there is an unverifiable claim under the table for the season two semifinals, just before the program ratings. In some versions of the page, somebody has embedded a prediction about who will win the finals, which doesn't meet the guidelines for what should be on a page. But, when I try to track down the text in the edit frame, I just can't find it! Could somebody with more Wiki experience try to track this down for me?

The problem is on the page that is not ASCII format: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/britain's_got_talent. It doesn't show up in the edit frame, but you can see it embedded in the source code for the HTML page.

Thanks! 71.203.228.179 (talk) 02:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)T. Hooper

The only thing I see between the table and the ratings is the clarification regarding Phil Blackmore being buzzed off as his act was ending. 129.97.248.133 (talk) 04:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Location of Vizage

Vizage come from Hull, but they went to the audition in Blackpool. Please do not revert the change I made back to Blackpool. Also, I am 92.11.167.68, but for some reason my I.P is not static and so changes every time we turn our wireless access point off.-92.8.51.167 (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Register and you won't have that problem any more. :) Digifiend (talk) 09:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The column is where they are from, not the audition location, so I changed it back to Hull. Vizage isn't the only Hull act, Craig Harper is also from Hull, and the table says so. Digifiend (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Finalists Table

I changed the "lost judges vote" colour from green to pink. I just don't think that green was the right colour - sorta stood out too much.

As well, should we have a similar table for series 1? 129.97.248.133 (talk) 23:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

This seems to have been reverted, as was my attempt to reconcile the colours between the two tables. I agree that the colour choice is currently wrong and suggest four shades of the same colour, each getting darker, for 'lost judges' vote', 'won judges' vote', 'won public vote' and (eventually) 'won the competition', e.g. LightYellow, Yellow, Gold, DarkOrange (see Web colors). Anguswalker (talk) 09:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The colour scheme should probably be the same for the first and second series. The "lost to the judges votes" light flesh colour from the first series is a bit better than the current pink for the second series.

Someone seems to enjoy adding a link to a non existent George Sampson article.

I swear I'll never understand why people are so adamant about unilaterally installing their own colour schemes. Ah well, all part of the wiki experience I guess. Mallocks (talk) 13:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Rumours

No no and no. It doesn't matter how many times you add "this is at the moment just a rumour" they are by definition unverifiable and therefore have no place in Wikipedia. Feel free to bring them back when there are reliable sources touting them. Mallocks (talk) 12:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

There's references for the Faryl Smith coaching stuff, so I've added a section on that. Neıl 龱 13:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Colours in final column of table

I don't like the alternating yellow and orange. I think that (a) the info is redundant and (b) it's just tacky. That is why I have removed it. 129.97.248.133 (talk) 02:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If they were sorted alphabetically, perhaps it wouldn't look 'tacky' - making them all a new colour doesn't add any information, so they should either be coloured by where they finished or not at all. Anguswalker (talk) 10:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

By using the same colour for "Won the judges' vote" and "Second Place (Final)" it creates confusion. One might think that Signature came in second in the final as a result of a judges' vote, not as a result of the public vote. Similarly, there could be confusion because of using the same colour for "Lost the judges' vote" and "Third Place (Final)". The colours in the final column should be changed to an otherwise unused one for second and third in the final.

Kate and gin!

They have withdrawn from the competition becuase of the voting farce according to the sun! any more info should we add this to their current controversy article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.162.214 (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

By all means, please add anything that can be reliably sourced. Mallocks (talk) 11:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

seems they're still on there... 77.101.18.129 (talk) 19:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

They nearly did withdraw, but for a very different reason - Gin narrowly avoided being run over on the day of the performance. Digifiend (talk) 09:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

andrew muir controversy

andrew muir stated after his performance in the final, that he didn't choose his song. when simon cowell said to him it was abad choice of song, he said he didn't want to sing it, and simon said he shouldn't have, to which andrew replied it was out of his hands. how can the viewing public make an informed decision, when there's someone behind the scenes pulling strings. andrew didn't have a great performance, but like simon said, with a different song, could have been a lot better. how can this be a talent show, when the 'talent' are being told what to do? for me, it's like they deliberately gave him a bad song to sing, or a song he'd sing badly, whatever. can this be included in the controversy section?? 77.101.18.129 (talk) 19:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If and when it can be reliably sourced. Mallocks (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Dont know how to source it, but on Britain's got More Talent on itv2 tonight, Simon explained how the contestnts submit a list of songs to sing and the producers choose from that, and muir had yesterday on his list. Presumably this is to do with clearence rights for broadcast performance. Pedgeth (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Colors for Series 2 table

I think the colors need changing; changing to something like this;

Key	Won the public vote	Won the judge's vote	Top 3 - lost the judge's vote	Buzzed off prior to completion	Winner (Final)	Runner Up (Final)	Third Place (Final)	Withdrawn from competition

Thoughts? -92.11.197.39 (talk) 21:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposal: I suggest splitting off the 'Final' column of the series 2 table, making it a new table below the current one. This will allow for a seperate colour scheme to be used, along with info such as the specific song/act performed in a second column, and the acts could be displayed in running order and so on. Thoughts?LHMike (talk) 23:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Signature

They should have won, but does anyone know what song they used in their performance was? The michael jackson bhangra thingy? And can you buy it off iTunes? Neo222 (talk) 21:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The song is called Nachna Onda Nei by a guy called Tigerstyle. Showman16 (talk) 23:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The Tigerstyle article is heavily in need of wikifying and editing, if anyone's interested. LHMike (talk) 23:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Order of appearance

Apparently the last act in each semi-final qualified. Order of appearance is required information to add to the table on this years acts. SunCreator (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Why? Joe dawg 9 (talk) 03:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Because the draw is like a handicap that greatly effects the amount of viewers, which in turn effects the voting. You'll notice for example that the table on Eurovision_Song_Contest_2008 has the draw, not just ESC for 2008, but ALL previous years. This article is incomplete without it. SunCreator (talk) 23:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Green

the link from Charlie Green directs me to some random scientist. Can somebody please change this?????????????? Hello963 (talk) 20:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Somebody removed the link. Digifiend (talk) 09:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The link should be Charlie Green (singer), which is his article. He has done a lot since the series. Hassaan19 (talk) 13:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

eScala

Someone should change their name to the lower case "eScala" rather than "Escala" Mista koo (talk) 14:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a reference for that? SunCreator (talk) 23:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Their official site http://www.escalamusic.com would suggest eScala to be correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moggie2002 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Separate series pages

Can we have some sort of consensus on whether these are neccesary or not? While from my perspective the only additional information (not found here) found on Britain's Got Talent (Series 1) is useless cruft if people think it's worth while then it should be cut out of here and another page made for Series 2. Thoughts? Mallocks (talk) 18:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, create a separate page for both seasons. This is being done in American Idol. Starczamora (talk) 11:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I think if someone or several people is willing to sort the article into two and add more infomation in the seperate series' {not seasons} and am willing to source it appropiately then yes - and that they are willing to limit the amout of content which stays on this article to avoid duplication. Thenthornthing (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

  BLAH BLAH... BORING!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.5.190.240 (talk) 20:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC) 

Semi-protection

Why does the banner say it is semi-protected until the 3rd June when it is still semi-protected? -- Cowplopmorris^Talk_Contribs 12:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Good eye. Guess it needs removing :) TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 13:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Final Results

Why does it say Jeremy came 3rd place when he lost in the Semi's? He wasnt even in the Final. And btw i think someone has seriously messed up the results bit so i think we should delete that. It really isnt nessisary. 81.145.241.245 (talk) 15:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm currently looking through the page history to see what on earth happened to that section TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 16:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted the broken results sections to the version by Bungle: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Britain%27s_Got_Talent&oldid=217070944 . I'm not sure if information has been lost along the way, though TheChrisD, ^{Rant with me!} 16:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems folk find it difficult to not tamper with it. It doesn't need tampering with - completely fine, clear and presentable as it is. The version I last edited which is what TheChrisD has reverted back to I think is the last good revision, as it seems all those after just mucked it up. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Series 1

There is no need for Series 1 to have infomation on this article because it has it's own page. --78.144.142.219 (talk) 09:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Personally I don't think it worth having so much information on series 1 in this article. I believe that there should just be a short section giving an outline of the series like the 1st paragraph of the new article. Something similar to:

"Series one of Britain's Got Talent began on 9 June 2007 and ended on 17 June 2007. The first 5 shows concerned the Audition Stages and the final three shows involved the live Semi-Finals and Final. The series was eventually won by opera singer Paul Potts, with ventriloquist Damon Scott coming in second."

Then if people want more information all of the other info on this page is contained in the new article. Probably best to wait for the Afd to be sorted tho.......

Tresiden (talk) 09:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Whats the point of having Britain's Got Talent getting cluttered up with infomation that is in a seperate article with more infomation and no vandalism. I think all infomation about seires 1 in this article should be deleted for good there is just no point of keeping it.--1020J (talk) 11:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

As I have mentioned in the BGT series one afd, I'm quite happy for the info to be there instead of here , but only if it's propelry sourced and reaches wikipedia's guidelines. Also I have reverted the deletion of the series one section from this article twice now. The reason is becuase the series 1 article is currently holding an afd, so effectively could be deleted so the infomation should be kept here until then. And if the afd prooves false, the correct tag to link the article {{main|Britain's Got Talent (Series 1)}} should be used {since the person deleting the info. insists on just linking. Thenthornthing (talk) 17:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hollie Steel

FYI. Ikip (talk) 19:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Kelly Brook is back as judge?

I saw her on the youtube setlist of eps. 6, so is she back? Anyone have more news on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassandra Faye (talk • contribs) 20:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

They just showed the rest of the Manchester auditions - the only one she was at. They don't show each area in 1 episode - they scatter them throughout the series. So no, she isn't back. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Controversy

I think I may have worked out why the final act always goes through. Its because Ant and Dec open the phone lines before they give the Judges comments, the public think one of the following:

Good comment:

Oh, he's good! I'll vote for him.

Bad comment:

Bollocks! I completely disagree with that! I'm voting for him to show my defiance.

--Launchballer (talk) 05:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Two points: 1, so what's your point?

2, still slightly irrelevant to the article as its just your opinion...Matt Zero (talk) 12:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Its not irrelevant; my reckonin explains the unjustified controversy.--Launchballer (talk) 14:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Look up the Primary-Recency effect in a psychology journal, thats a better reason for the controvesy and actually has some evidence...Matt Zero (talk) 12:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Vandals

I think this should be edit locked because of Vandals! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas Gilling (talk • contribs) 21:40, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

What IS Britain's got MORE Talent?

As a foreigner, I would just love to know what exactly is Britain's Got More Talent. It's mentioned several times in the article, but it links to this article as well, without any other explanation except that it is a somewhat different show... Maybe it deserves at least its own paragraph, but without knowing the difference, who can tell? -- megA (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Britains Got More Talent is just really a light hearted discussion show about the actual show itself, its hosted by Stephan Mulhern and he chats to the judges and has fun with british TV or music stars, he also chats the contestants about how they're feeling, its shown on Cable/Satellite channel ITV2 right after the main show has finished on terrestrial channel ITV1. Plus theres also comedy sketches with Simon, Piers and Amanda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.30.215 (talk) 23:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Should this be explained in the article? -- megA (talk) 21:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Dates for First Season?

I was reading the intro paragraph and I noticed that it says in the intro that the first season premiered on 9 June 2007 and ended 17 June 2007. Now, I'm an American, so I was busy watching our version of Got Talent in 2007. Like most Americans, I hadn't seen any BGT until Susan Boyle became an overnight celebrity. But I find it hard to believe that BGT's first season was only 8 days long... AGT generally runs for 2-3 months. I was wondering if somebody who knows the actual dates could fix it. I guessed that it was probably supposed to say 9 June - 17 July, but again, I have no idea if that's right. So if someone could correct it I'd be obliged. Neil Clancy 15:25, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

The comment on series 2 notes "The series also ran for longer, this time airing for seven weeks instead of one...". It does indeed seem to have been a one-week run. Shimgray | talk | 16:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Really? Wow. Seems short. I guess maybe they aired it every night that week. I'd like confirmation from somebody who actually watched the first season but I guess that's perfectly possible. Anyway thanks for pointing that out. Neil Clancy 02:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I watched the first series and it was indeed stripped accross one week. If I remember correctly it was two semi finals, a grand final and the rest were audition programmes. Alexsutton (talk) 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Merge from Britain's Got Talent contestants discography

There doesn't seem to be anything at Britain's Got Talent contestants discography that is appropriate for this article. Nor does a redirect here from Britain's Got Talent contestants discography seem appropriate. --Bejnar (talk) 04:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Union Jacks

Necessary? I've removed them for now to bring them in line with the X Factor page - let me know if you disagree. --Rob691 (talk)

Season 4?

When does season 4 air? Liquinn (talk) 23:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It begins on April 17th. Swaddon1903 (talk) 12:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

When should a page for the Season 4 series be made? Thanks. Liquinn (talk) 12:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe now or in a few days time? Though, I would think no later then Sunday. --Andromedabluesphere440 (talk) 07:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

OK no problem. Liquinn (talk) 11:55, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I want to start the Britain's got Talent season 4 page now, if that's OK, but how can I start the page? Liquinn (talk) 10:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Rob691, 26 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Worth adding that it's Simon's last year as a judge in the audition stages? http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s107/britains-got-talent/news/a216673/cowell-confirms-exit-from-bgt-auditions.html

Rob691 (talk) 19:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)Rob691

 Done, thanks, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 19:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Criticism/Accusations of Bias against circus performers

I have added a few who/fact tags to the paragraphs that making allegations of bias against circus perfomers. The quotations should be backed up by appropriate citations, I would suggest. Without that, it's bordering on libellous? Rob Burbidge (talk) 18:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Is BGT a fix as in tonights show when ant and dec asked piers morgan about the line up for the final he gave out Janey Cutler 's name before the votes had apperntly been counted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.36.106 (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Cowell in 2011 onwards

Should the first box with the three main judges be altered to say Cowell is not participating in the incoming auditions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sepmix (talk • contribs) 14:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

No, because then it just gets messy and untidy. He's a judge so it doesn't matter when he appears, he's still 'a' judge. JackJackUK (talk) 00:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

The final round - Same act as the audition?

Isn't it true that in the Britain's Got Talent (but not the American Got Talent), the acts that make it to the finals are required to do the same act again that they did in their audition? I haven't been able to find a source backing this up but if it true (and can be sourced) then it seems like a notable fact that should be included in the article.--Cab88 (talk) 13:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Kelly Brook

Can Kelly Brook be kept listed as a judge please. The fact she was announced, confirmed and appeared as a judge means she should be listed. She wasn't a guest judge, nor was she a stand-in, she was an actual main judge. I understand she appeared for only one show, but like Brian Friedman with The X Factor UK, she still appeared and therefore should be listed on the judges bit in the infobox.JackJackUK (talk) 19:16, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

When I was fixing the infobox earlier, I removed the old judges by mistake. ----Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

infobox

Amanda Holden should be listed above Simon Cowell because not only is 'A' before 'S' but she has appeared in MORE episodes than Simon, and Simon didn't appear in the auditions for 2011 series. I know it's not major but I think it makes more sense. Also, we don't need a date with the original picture format. It's the original picture format that is still used. We don't add dates for Cowell or Holden, so we don't need one for that. JackJackUK (talk) 23:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Judging panel

I don't get why Kelly Brook is listed as a guest judge in the judging panel box under Presenters section. She was NOT a guest judge. She was confirmed and appeared as a judge, so why is she listed as a 'guest'? It's misleading. JackJackUK (talk) 01:44, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

It's because she was only there for one set of auditions. Same with the The X Factor USA page, where Cheryl Cole is listed as a guest judge. Unreal7 (talk) 17:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Well she was still announced as a main judge, irrelevant of how long she appeared for. Brian Friedman only appeared on one show for X Factor UK and he's not credited as a guest judge.JackJackUK (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Archive 1

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Britain's Got Talent/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

This article describes what happened in the various serries, but makes little to no mention of the format of the show. From the perspective of not having seen the show itself, I do not know what 'Judge Saves' refers to and I do not know how groups of contestants are chosen. There are likely other things I do not know as well, but because of the lack of substantive information on the show format, I don't know what I don't know. This article is not Encyclopedic from the perspective of never haveing seen the show.

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Got Talent WikiProject...Show Your Support!!!

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Number of episodes?

Do the results shows not count as separate episodes? Also, the judging panel box is completely irrelevant. The same idea was rejected on The X Factor page as well.Unreal7 (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Britain's Got Talent - Best and Worst

There are occasionally series on ITV called "Britain's Got Talent - Best and Worst" looking at the best and worst bits of the programme. I think that that should be in the article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Series 1-3 Placements

I've started/updated discussions on series 1, 2, & 3 on lack of sources for placements. Posting links here for greater visibility.

• Talk:Britain's Got Talent (series 1)#Placements - no sources for finals & semi-finals placements, including current (as of this week) disagreement on who was 2nd overall
• Talk:Britain's Got Talent (series 2)#Placements - no sources for finals & semi-finals placements
• Talk:Britain's Got Talent (series 3)#Non Top 3 - Placements? - no sources for non top 3 semi-final placements

If anyone has sources or info, please add to appropriate discussions. Otherwise, I believe this unsourced info should be removed ... Thanks, Kirin13 (talk) 04:51, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Louis Walsh as a Guest Judge

As far as I am aware, he was only a Guest Judge during Season 4 (2011) when Simon Cowell had the flu and so he acted as a replacement. I cannot find any source to suggest that he was also a guest judge for Season 5 (2012), and neither can I recall it from memory.

It says in the judges table that he was a guest judge in both years, although I do not believe this to be true. Unless anyone can find a source, perhaps we should remove the false information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.211.15 (talk) 14:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Walsh replaced Hasselhoff at the London auditions in series 5. It was properly sourced in relevant sections - use wayback machine if old links fail. A quick Google search would also give you sources for the "false information", e.g. 1, 2, 3. (Btw, series 4 is 2010, series 5 is 2011). ~ 14nights (talk) 09:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

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Box should have current judges indicated

The box in the top right-hand corner lists a good many names who are not currently judges on the panel, such asDavid Hasselhoff, Piers Morgan or Michael McIntyre. Should it not indicate which judges are current juges, and which are past judges?Vorbee (talk) 19:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

The current judges are Amanda Holden, Alesha Dixon, David Walliams and Simon Cowell. It would be helpful if the afore-mentioned box sub-divided the presenters into past presenters and current presenters. Vorbee (talk) 18:38, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

According to the template rules we should not separate the judges into past and present MSalmon (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree with MSalmon - besides, past judges can be marked down by the series they were involved in, as it is currently set up to in the article. GUtt01 (talk) 19:45, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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Urgent attention needed to an article linked to this main article

Please attend to an urgent request I made, within the "List of BGT finalists" talk page, and attend to the matters stated in the section entitled "Urgent Reworking Needed - This article is too confusing to understand!!" I have listed some serious issues with this side article that need amending by anyone willing to spare the time to improve the article; I have found it to be such a mess that is completely confusing why it was set up like it currently is. GUtt01 (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Lists for Finalists of BGT - Possible issue?

Does anyone know if the lists for the finalists of this programme, for each series, are notable enough to be mentioned, and if they conform well to Wikipedia's policies, including WP:ALIVE? GUtt01 (talk) 19:36, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Voting percentages

I think the voting percentages should be included (where they are available). They were released so it makes sense to include them and I don't think they are intrusive. Emirates123 (talk) 16:36, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes they should be. Feel free to add them if they're not already included in individual series articles. — ᴀnemoneᴘroᴊecтors 22:53, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

There should be a real consensus on this matter. I don't agree with Emirates123 putting them back in, just because one person, regardless of what they are on Wikipedia, says "Yes they should be". The results can simply state the position they had, with the citation containing such information being enough to back it up. Unless there is a general consensus to do so, then they can be returned - unfortunately, it's not possible to put in voting percentages on all articles covering the series. GUtt01 (talk) 15:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

It is possible because that's how it used to be. The percentages were made available and on the face of it I didn't expect there to be a case for not including them. Emirates123 (talk) 17:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Categories

Just a thought, but I was wondering whether the fact that this programme is presented by Ant and Dec means that it could go in the category "Ant and Dec". Vorbee (talk) 17:42, 16 April 2018 (UTC)