Talk:Bryan Ferry

Glam heralds

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 – --Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I've removed "their sartorial style heralded the beginning of the glam rock phenomenon". Marc Bolan was ahead by at least a year, and The Sweet were earlier too, not to mention David Bowie.

BTLizard 14:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Parentage

I thought his father worked for the coal board rather than being a miner - or at least something administrative? The coalminer thing strikes me as a romanticisation or a legend. Humphrey20020 19:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Currently the article states that his father looked after pit ponies. Something completely different. If somebody has a source for an administrative function, a miner, or looking after pit ponies, please add the source.--Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I found a source for the pit ponies. I don't know how correct it is, but it's a start. I put in the article, if somebody finds a better source for coal mining just replace it.--Pie.er 09:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

External References

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 – --Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Removed ticket sales link.

Merge proposal

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 – Otis Ferry article is expanded, not merged.--Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

His son has a two sentence article. I proposed merger. Aaron Bowen 20:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Otis Ferry: I agree. --Pie.er 12:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Agree Wowlookitsjoe 01:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Naw.

I'm removing the suggestion box that the Otis Ferry article be merged into the Bryan Ferry one. Even if Otis Ferry does nothing else again, his actions in storming the House of Commons and his vociferous support of fox-hunting make him a person of current and historical significance.

I'll remove the box and expand the Otis Ferry article. GWP 11:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Nazi stuff

'Just amazing' quote. The quote itself harmless, when read on its own, Speer did great work, its just those who paid for that work. It seems Jewish groups seem to have ownership on the nasty work the Nazi's did. We don't hear the British govt stand up for the Slavs, Homosexuals, Intellectuals, Communists, Gypsys, etc. who paid with their lives. Londo06 02:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the Speer part should not be controversial, but the reference to the Führerbunker is really bad in my opinion. But we are not here to put our opinion in the article. The facts are that Ferry made the remark, the remark was considered controversial by some, and Ferry apologized for the remark. I think the nazi reference part currently fits in the article because it is relevant. We can see in half a year if it is still relevant. --Pie.er 08:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It's been 14 years... still waiting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:554E:7801:751A:5885:E8D3:62A7 (talk) 02:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Is thier any way we can get the actual quote said by Mr Ferry and how it was misquoted. Without this information the article seems to contradict itself. Deathawk 05:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The actual quote said by Brian Ferry is of course hard to find, because only the ones present when the quote was said, know what the quote really was. But this article is the first "public appearance" of the (mis)quote that started the controversy. But what is contradicting? --Pie.er 11:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Interesting to know that "Marks and Spencer opted to sever their ties with him" - I expect it filled in a few dull evenings. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 20:25, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Jewish Labour peer Greville Janner criticised Ferry for his remarks. He apologised what more do you want from him? His blood? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:554E:7801:751A:5885:E8D3:62A7 (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Jealous guy not mentioned

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 – Jealous guy found on lists--Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Looked through chart hits for ferry and roxy music and no mention of jealous guy in the list.

Search in [1] for "jealous guy" and you'll see that it was a no 1 hit in february 1981 in the UK. [www.dbopm.com] gives the same result. Check wikipedia List of number-one singles from the 1980s (UK) and you'll also see it. So it definitely can be found. Maybe you just looked at the wrong place... --Pie.er 14:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Bryan Ferry-These Foolish Things (album cover).jpg

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 – Rair use rationale added--Pie.er 06:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bryan Ferry-These Foolish Things (album cover).jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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External links order

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 – Pie.er 10:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

This user keeps putting the fansite Vivaroxymusic on top of the external links list. I warned him several times on his talk page that there is a good reason that ferry's official page and imdb are on top, and that if he thinks otherwise, he should give a reason on this talk page. Until now, he has never given a reason, but just put his fansite on top 4 times. In my opinion it is not even clear if fansites should be on the external links list, but should they be present, definitely not above official information sites. If 87.86.194.250 (or someone else) disagrees, please give a reason here. If no reason is given and 87.86.194.250 changes the order one more time, I will have to report this to someone with power on wikipedia. --Pie.er 07:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

A reply has now been made with a reason.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.86.194.250 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 13 August 2007.

The reason has been given now (on User:87.86.194.250's talk page). And I must say that it is a good reason: The site is used by bryanferry.com a lot, which makes it authorative. (Full argument on talk page.) I am going to put the site on second place in the list, after bryanferry.com, with a note that it is not just a normal fansite. I think this will satisfy everybody, otherwise please complain :) --Pie.er 10:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Todo list

I've added a todo-list. I think these things are at least needed to get this article to the good-article status. If you can expand the list, or do some task on the list, please help. --Pie.er 12:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Bryan Ferry Dylanesque.jpg

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I removed the Dylanesque image from the article, because it was not really needed in this article. I added a fair use rationale for this article at the Bride stripped bare-image, because that image shows the gentleman-Ferry.

Because this article really lacks images, I sent the vivaroxymusic.com-webmaster a mail to release some low-resolution Bryan Ferry images in a free license, so they can be used in wikipedia. I will post the answer here.--Pie.er 08:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Is there any reason why a portrait of Hitler is in place of that of Brian Ferry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Black inferno (talk • contribs) 01:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Ferry's personal life

I found the phrase about Ferry dating 'beautiful women' to be fairly subjective, vaguely sexist, and ultimately pointless. One might argue that there is some interest in the fact that some of his past girlfriends have been on the covers of his records, so I've left that bit in, but apart from that, I don't think it's appropriate to write a Wikipedia piece as if it were for a People or Playboy audience.

And, really, how is that the most pertinent factoid with which to lead off the section on his personal life? I can't be bothered to re-write it, but if whoever wrote it in the first place ever reads this, please reconsider (and re-write). Sneedy (talk) 05:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Style

His vocal delivery is somewhat different and, unless a piece obviously produced for radio, might take some getting used to for the casual listener. Can someone add a section with an overview of his singing style? How it was developed, influenced, etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.146.184 (talk) 04:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Guilfest backing

Is that Cherisse Osei on drums (who toured with Ferry around that time) on the left ? While not as well-known as Marr, I would suggest she gets a mention in the caption ! 146.90.222.60 (talk) 08:58, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Separate page for Otis Ferry (Bryan Ferry's son)

I note that the Otis Ferry page has been deleted (perhaps a little while ago?), with a re-direct being created to this page. While that page had many problems (excessive level of detail about arrests which had not led to charges let alone convictions), revision had removed many of them. Otis Ferry probably merits a page of his own, he has a measure of notoriety which is now independent of being Ferry's son (although I accept that the fact of the relationship probably plays a part in it). Is there scope for reinstating the page and pruning it further if needs be? Informed Owl (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)Informed Owl

I took the decision to redirect the Otis Ferry page here as it had become a bit of a mess, and I'm not convinced he's particularly notable by our standards. The history is still preserved though and it could be restored if there was consensus to do so. If you think it should be, I suggest you work on your own draft version of the page which is compliant with our policies, and then propose it either here or somewhere like the BLP Noticeboard. Robofish (talk) 17:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

See the discussion at Talk:Otis_Ferry#Tagging_of_article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Holland Park School

BBC4 claims he was sacked from his job as a pottery teacher at a girls' school. Is this correct? If so, what could the dashing, devilish Ferry possibly have got up to in such an environment? Perhaps some clay went walkies? Holland Park is certainly co-ed., of course, so it may all be sensationalist wish-fulfillment by frustrated BBC executives. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 20:33, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bryan Ferry/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

No linline citations, several sections marked as stubs, and a short lead keep this B class. Aaron Bowen 21:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 21:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 10:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Chart Attack

Here's a review that may not have been seen because Chart Attack isn't online right now: "On the Road Again Live Reviews: Bryan Ferry November 9, 1999 Massey Hall, Toronto—Anne Delong (talk) 14:15, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Somewhat too enthusiastic?

I am very familiar with Ferry's career through the decades. I was shocked to see him compared to Bowie in the lead (very different career paths), but the opening sentences all rely on opinions by crtics rather than a neutral summary of the subject's work. It feels like it's been written by dedicated fans and lacks neutrality. Cheers. Thelisteninghand (talk) 20:25, 24 June 2023 (UTC)