Talk:Buckley School (California)

Famous Students

Yo, EvKnight13! Is it you who removed Liza Minelli and Rex Allen Jr from the celeb list? If so, why? I knew these kids; they were at Buckley, the old Woodman campus, in about 1956 or '57. Maybe '58 too, not sure......Dan

Removal

I am a student now, and neither I nore anyone else has been able to find any records of these people having attended the school. I have asked the head of school and any of the older teachers who would know, but no one has been able to corroborate. Dlayiga 01:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I noted your page, and rather thought that the process you described was indeed what happened. Doesn't surprise me that no one around now remembers them. However, I was there, knew and liked those kids. Also there at the time were Clark Gable's kids, Glenn Ford's son Peter who was also a friend, Jeff and Laura Green whose mother appeared frequently on "Bonanza" - and I suppose I'm the only one around who remembers them. Try asking Bruce Denny; he's in the alumni association and was there then. Meredith MacRae would too, were she still alive. Anyway, my father, Ed Strickland, was a teacher and business manager during the mid to late 50's, my mother, Jane Strickland, taught reading readiness for a year or so, and I, Dan Strickland, was a student. If you can confirm any of that, it should bolster my case, but in any event I think you're going a bit against the spirit of a wiki. After all, how many of your contacts remember Mrs. Buckley? I do - we even went swimming at her house in Malibu........Dan 16:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I remember riding to school with Clark Gables kids. We picked them up on the bus when I was in reading readiness about 1957. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:5501:D3D2:44DB:9866:EAE4:6656 (talk) 04:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

re-adding Rex Allen Jr - you doubters, look at the Buckley Beagle, June 1957, page 17, left column. And something from Liza Minelli is in the previous issue of the Beagle. --Snow (talk) 22:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, but his notability is in question. See WP:WTAF. tedder (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

That's harsh; he's got a wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Allen,_Jr.). You not a country music fan? --Snow (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

He was previously added as Rex Allen Jr, which is a redlink. Note you changed it to Rex Allen Jr., which isn't. tedder (talk) 23:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

forgot the period. sue me. --Snow (talk) 00:12, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Added Jamie Erlicht, the co-head of programming Sony. He was in my class of 1986. Removed another vandalism while I was at it - MJB — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

History

It'd be nice if someone could remember/look up some of the history of the school. Mrs. Buckley started it in 1933 (at age 33), where? When I was a kid in the Buckley School I always heard that the Doheney branch was the original school; is that true? Followed by Hayvenhurst, then Woodman. Anyone know the history of those locations? And what about headmasters preceding the ones listed in the main article? Of course, the headmaster was Mrs. Buckley, but there were principals at each site. For most of the time I was at Woodman, the principal was Mr. Butler, followed by - Mr. Young? Was that his name? And I think Carol Proffit was principal at Hayvenhurst at that time. I've got some old Buckley Beagles around, in boxes in my garage, well-buried and guarded by black widows, so if someone else were knowledgable about these things it'd be nice. --Dan 22:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

From the 2004-2005 Annual Report (google for "buckley school" doheny to find this):

• 1932-33 Primary school campus opens on Doheny Drive in Beverly Hills.
• 1946 Second primary school campus opens on Hayvenhurst Avenue in Encino.
• 1951 Elementary school and Upper Division campus opens on Woodman Avenue in what is now considered Sherman Oaks.
• 1959 First senior class graduates.First yearbook called Lucerne published.
• 1959-60 Riverside Drive campus opens and incorporates elementary grades from the Woodman Avenue campus.
• 1960-61 Woodman Avenue campus is remodeled and modernized with first air-conditioned classrooms.
• 1964-65 Stansbury property acquired from the Glenaire Country Club for proposed consolidation of campuses.
• 1965-66 Lower Division classes begin on Stansbury Avenue campus in Sherman Oaks.
• 1966-67 Yearbook renamed Images.
• 1973 Complete student body consolidated on Stansbury Avenus campus.

Also, I seem to recall Yves Thepot was the headmaster before Baumhoff. Big power struggle between him and Buckley. He lost, and spent a year teaching Latin and manning the book room before leaving. (that's from my brother - just before my time)

-- MJB (former student, graduated 1986)

Nice, thank you. I took French from Mr. Thepot; he was one heck of a teacher - especially by comparison with Madame DeCouverville, who essentially gave me the same year of French 6 times. --Dan 15:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Old Campuses Speaking of the history above makes me curious about the old campuses. I attended Buckley at the Hayvenhurst and Woodman campuses, and went to functions at Doheney. Are any of these old campuses still in existence? I know the Woodman campus is gone, but I don't remember addresses for the others, so cannot check. --Dan (talk) 21:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Doheny Campus I attended Buckley K-6, including K-3 at the old Doheny campus. It was located a block or two south of Sunset Blvd, and the main building was beige stucco with a Spanish tile roof, and there was a playground in front. Regrettably, the campus is long gone. Mrs. Tobocco was the principal of Doheny, and I remember how nice she was. I then attended 4-6 at Stansbury. It was just grades 4-6 at the time, well before the consolidation. I visited Buckley in the 1990s, and no structures from the pre-consolidation campus remained. There were a good number of students with celebrity parents during my 7 years at Buckley, but they seemed no different than the rest, just doing their best to make sure that their children received a good education. Randall Wood (talk) 04:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone give me a link to anything related to Glen-Aire Country Club pre-Buckley, like a picture or something? Thanks.

--kojum23.242.14.183 (talk) 04:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Kite Club

Who deleted the kite club section? It's a very important part of the school's modern culture and future history. -63.193.91.60 16:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It probably wouldn't have been deleted if there were a source for it. Has it been described in any locla newspapers? -Will Beback · † · 17:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The Student Voice. -Kingurth 02:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism?

The heart of this article is taken word-for-word from the school's website.24.22.141.252 (talk) 06:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Normally I'm the first person to go after copyright violations, but in this case I'm not seeing it. Most of the article looks like a pretty good re-wording of the page you've linked to. Perhaps I'm just missing it—can you provide some examples of the word-for-word copying? Esrever ^(klaT) 16:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, there's this:

Wikipedia article: "During the early years, campuses were located in Beverly Hills, Tarzana, Encino, and on Woodman Avenue and Riverside Drive in Sherman Oaks. In 1964, Buckley purchased land that had been owned by the Glenaire Country Club and by 1973 was able to accommodate all divisions of the school on the new Stansbury Avenue campus in Sherman Oaks."[1]

Buckley School website: "During the early years, campuses were located in L.A., Tarzana, Encino, and on Woodman Avenue and Riverside Avenue in Sherman Oaks. In 1964, Dr. Buckley purchased land that had been owned by the Glenaire Country Club and by 1973 was able to accommodate all divisions of the school on the new Stansbury Avenue campus in Sherman Oaks."[2]

The only differences between these texts are 1) our article says “Beverly Hills" where the website says "L.A." 3) our article (correctly) says "Riverside Drive" instead of the website's "Riverside Avenue" 3) our article omits "Dr." from "Dr. Buckley". 24.22.141.252 (talk) 03:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's kids

A number of anonymous editors over the last few days have been adding Michael Jackson's children to the list of notable alumni of Buckley. I've been pretty consistently removing them, however, as I don't believe they aren't actually notable in and of themselves, but because they're related to a dead celebrity. In other words, they don't merit their own articles in Wikipedia (and indeed, their respective articles redirect back to Michael Jackson), and therefore aren't really notable enough to include in a list of notable alumni (which currently is limited to people with their own articles anyway). Does anyone else have thoughts about this? Esrever ^(klaT) 23:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I find it strange that Christian Brando would be listed as notable alumni. He was actually notable in and of himself. His claim to fame was being the son of Marlon Brando; and a convicted felon. Let's remove him too. Kinerethblue

But if he's notable in and of himself--even if it's not for the best of reasons--why should he be removed? Esrever ^(klaT) 17:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

My bad English. This was meant to be a question. He was notable in and of himself? No one would care about Christian Brando if his dad had not been Marlon Brando. Again, His claim to fame was being the son of Marlon Brando; and a convicted felon. Let's remove him too. Kinerethblue —Preceding undated comment added 22:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC).

My usual rule of thumb is to see if the person has his or her own article (which Christian does). I'd say he's probably noteworthy. Esrever ^(klaT) 05:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I think Prince and Paris Jacson should be included in the list of notable people. I know that you said you wanted to keep the list down to people who have their own articles but I think in this case an exception should be made. They're not just related to some dead celebrity. Prince and Paris are the children of Michael Jackson, who was one of the greatest entertainers of all time!

I think the reason why Prince and Paris don't have their own Wikipedia articles at the moment is due to the fact that they're still young. Prince is 14 and Paris is only 13. They've both said in interviews that they want to get into show business. Prince has mentioned a desire to produce and direct films in the future and Paris wants to be an actress so maybe as they get older and they do things with their careers they will have their own Wikipedia pages.

This is just my opinion but Prince and Paris are more deserving to be included than the Kardashians. While the Kardashian kids may have their own Wikipedia pages what do they really contribute to society? They're just famous for being rich! Prince, Paris and also little Blanket are carrying on their father's legacy of giving to charity and going out and helping disadvantaged kids. I think that's quite a notable thing to do at their young age. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.177.12 (talk) 04:06, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

But you've not in any way indicated that his kids are actually notable in and of themselves. Their only claim to fame is that they are related to Michael Jackson, who justifiably has his own article. The Kardashians, for better or for worse, are legitimate celebrities. Esrever ^(klaT) 04:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Me

Resolved

I used to attend Buckley so I can help inprove this article. It is K-12, and used to be preschool-12. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.88.206 (talk) 21:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Marking as resolved. I am assuming the article used to mention pre-K, but this is no longer the case. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:47, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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