Talk:By any means necessary/Archive 1

Archive 1

Non-Malcolm references

I'm inclined to remove reference to the band who's name is not even the title of this article. I'm a little unsure of leaving the link to Babylon-5 here, but if this page becomes a proper disambiguation page, then I guess it's ok. Comments are appreciated. ScottW 03:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't miss the link to the album. It would make more sense for the album to link back here, but it hasn't got an article. -GTBacchus^(talk) 04:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, it's gone. ScottW 13:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Improving the page

So now that I've voted keep on the AfD discussion, I feel somewhat obligated to make this page more useful. I'm working on a couple of other articles at the moment, so I can't get to it right away. As it stands, the article does little more than break down the entomology of the phrase. However, "by any means necessary" means much more than the words itself. When I have time, I plan to rework this page so that it illustrates the meaning of this phrase in the context of the United States civil rights movement. In the meantime, any input or edits toward this effort are welcome. ScottW 00:30, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

French

Could we have the original French for this phrase? JFW | T@lk 22:46, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The section about BAMN in Michigan

There is a section beneath Malcolm X's use of this phrase which I find to be possible POV, and is not referenced at all. I think the issue would be somewhat controversial, so this is somewhere we really need references. Also, per Wikipedia guidelines, original research, that is, adding new information that has not been published by a reliable source elsewhere is an entry violation. I recommend deleting the Michigan addition unless someone can reference it and make sure it is NPOV. Nam1123 (talk) 00:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

File:Malcolm X any means necessary.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Malcolm X any means necessary.jpg, has been nominated for speedy deletion for the following reason: Wikipedia files with no non-free use rationale as of 3 December 2011 What should I do? Don't panic; you should have time to contest the deletion (although please review deletion guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page. If the image is non-free then you may need to provide a fair use rationale If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no fair use rationale, then it cannot be uploaded or used. If the image has already been deleted you may want to try Deletion Review This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 10:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguate?

In the AfD discussion it was proposed that this page be changed into a disambiguation page. My thinking is that the Malcolm stuff should be moved to By any means necessary (Malcolm X) and the rest can remain in the disambiguation page or removed. If no one has an objection to this, I can take care of it. ScottW 13:28, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Disambiguation, I don't see why we don't let the Malcolm X content stay at "By any means necessary" with an {{Otheruses}} template pointing to a disambiguation page. Unless we think that as many people will be looking for the Babylon 5 episode as the Malcolm X quote... -GTBacchus^(talk) 16:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, your way makes more sense. I've created the disambiguation page and moved the non-Malcoln content over there. This is my first attempt at a disambiguation page, so if I've missed something along the way, feel free to let me know. Thanks for your input. ScottW 00:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned up the dab page a little bit. There are all these different ways to handle disambiguation, and if this turns out not to have been the best one, someone at WikiProject disambiguation will eventually find and fix it. Seems fine to me. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:41, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Looks great, thanks for your help. ScottW 00:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

This is apparently on old RfD discussion, but the disambiguation page should be the default page, not this (Malcolm X) page. The phrase was in common English use 300 years ago, e.g. by 1700[1]. Sartre did not invent it. 75% of the Google hits make no mention of Malcolm X, he did not 'own' this phrase, copyright it, nor popularize it. Benefac (talk) 14:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on By any means necessary. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070210094013/http://bartleby.com:80/66/20/48220.html to http://www.bartleby.com/66/20/48220.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC)