Talk:C'était un rendez-vous
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editThis page contains a copyrighted image from Google Earth (Image:C'etait un Rendez-Vous map.png) which has been put up for deletion (screenshots of Google Maps/Google Earth aren't fair use). A new image will be needed. Zetawoof(ζ) 09:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I've also noticed that much of the text on this page is identical to that of http://www.rendezvousdvd.com/ I presume this is copyrighted, hence should be removed. 72.137.43.90 06:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Route diagram needed
editSo, apparently images from Google Maps / Google Earth are not allowed on Wikipedia because of copyright restrictions. However, I don't know the actual route taken so it's difficult to re-create using a map that is not copyrighted.
I would be willing to find a 1970's-era street map that is not copyrighted and trace the route for the diagram, if someone can point me in the right direction of the original copyrighted Google Maps image. If you can add that link here to the talk page, it would be great, and I will find the image and re-create it using an uncopyrighted map. Thanks. 24.18.35.120 05:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I just found it here: http://www.answers.com/topic/c-etait-un-rendez-vous-map-png I will see what I can do in terms of re-creating it using an uncopyrighted map. Any leads? 24.18.35.120 05:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Audio overdub?
editIt may well be a Merc that the footage was shot from, and the director's comments in the "making of" film would seem to confirm this, but that is definitely NOT a Merc saloon that you are hearing. For a start it is almost entirely unsilenced, yet it isn't blowing in a way that suggests his exhaust has been removed, in fact it sounds in excellent tune. Secondly, the yowl near the top of the rev range, and the wail on overrun suggest a V12, not the V8 that the Merc would have been fitted with. Thirdly, you can quite distinctly hear him double declutching on the down-shifts, and occasionally on an upshift (which the author on the main page has mistaken for missed gears), this is almost positively a fingerprint of a gearbox full of straight-cut cogs, which in turn screams "racing car". I would love to know what it is that he used for the overdub, and big kudos for getting the match so good. Pyrope 17:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I distinctly remember reading somewhere that the audio is overdubbed using the Ferrari (275GTB) that it was suggested the actual car was, so as to best preserve that rumour. Josh.Sinyor 19:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
To my ears the engine and tyre effects sound like they are repeated in many spots too. 124.176.11.225 (talk) 02:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
The driver
edit"A May 2006 Making of the rendezvous documentary indicates that the driver was a Formula 1 driver"
I've just watched this documentary, and in fact Claude Lelouch clearly says that he is himself driving the car.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.206.11.190 (talk) 15:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Translation of title
edit"It was an appointment" is so banal that it should be deleted. And wrong - "it was" would be 'il etait' If a translation is needed, and it isn't, it should be "There was a rendezvous" as RZV is well understood in English and has more of the romantic, dramatic meaning than 'appointment' which smacks of going to the dentist - Blah! If you must - 'date' or 'tryst' - I like 'tryst'!
- I think the closest transliteration would be "It's a date". Pyrope 11:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- To be fair, that's what it's called everywhere (C'etait), so il etait appears to be wrong from that perspective. Alex Holowczak 19:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Can't agree with Pyrope about c'était versus il était. I don't think you could ever translate it as "there was". "That was" perhaps.
I'm not sure why exactly, but the impression it gives to me is of being an answer to a question..."(because) it was a date".
Precisely because rendez-vous is understood in English and has a variety of connotations which it doesn't have in French, I think it should be avoided. So, it seems to me that, being pretty literal and neutral, you could reasonably translate it as "It was a date" or "That was a date". "I had a date" or "He had a date" also seem reasonable to me, though less literal.
I've changed it to "It was a date" and removed any talk of it being a 'direct translation' (whatever that means). ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 11:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding "RZV is well understood in English", the abbreviation is actually "RDV". 82.152.193.148 (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Contradiction
edit"Refused to disclose the amount" (referring to the fine), so he told everyone? Alex Holowczak 19:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Cetrendez.jpg
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The car used was a Ferrari 275, not a Mercedes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.75.57 (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
See alsos???
editI think this should have a link to "Black Prince"(French street racer) in reference to the "Paris Ride" or "Escape from Paris" videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendog29 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Removal of speed analysis
editUnfortunately the link to one of the analyses has a big error. They've added a kilometer by mistake, and where they've added it of course they get a huge speed. The other problem with some of the other speed analysis I have seen is, they calculate AVERAGE speeds. For example, the measure the distance of Champs Elysee and record the time it takes to get from one end to the other. This is an average speed. The website below, uses a time distance plot, a more accurate physics method of determining speed. This shows a top speed of 135 mph
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/Rendezvous.shtml
If you are interested in a map of the route (the start is slight wrong) from here it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.122.63.6 (talk) 17:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Lelouch says it was a 6.9
editCan we PLEASE put this argument to bed now? Here's Lelouch himself, saying it was a 6.9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHn5Q15kaIA&feature=related ---98.232.176.109 (talk) 08:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
This website also has a widely published picture of a gyro-cam mounted to the front of Lelouch's mercedes:
http://www.smidgy.com/post/968829157/rendez-vous-best-car-film-ever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.187.30 (talk) 00:28, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
SPEED
editThe maximum speed was for sure over 200 km/h - just check the time it took to pass Avenue des Champs-Élysées and measure its length und you will get to an average speed of over 190km/h! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.186.96.74 (talk) 12:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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