Talk:Cécilia Attias

Nicolas Sarkozy said he was "Struck by Lightning"?

This is accurately quoted from the bbc.com article to which it refers, but is most probably inaccurately translated from the French. Nicolas Sarkozy most probably used the very common french expression "J'ai eu le coup de foudre" which correctly translates as "It was love at first sight." To translate it literally gives the statement much more enigmatic and dramatic overtones than the speaker probably intended. The BBC should have known better. Agneau 09:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

First Lady?

Does the concept of First Lady even exist in France?66.183.165.57 00:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

• Yes the French version is Première Dame de France . You can google it if you want to check. Hektor 10:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Princess of Andorra already?

This article as well as the article of Bernadette Chirac contradict each other. Apparently both women are currently Princess of Andorra. Doesn't Cecilia Sarkozy not gain this title until her husband's inauguration on May 16? 71.223.249.228 09:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

• Is there really a title of Princess of Andorra ? do you have an official Andorran source for that ? Hektor 10:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

• I did not see in the constitution, even if the le "Président de la République Française" is "personnellement" (Aricle 46) Copríncep. http://www.andorramania.com/constit_fra.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.89.44.229 (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

There is a List of Co-Princes of Andorra article. Is this for real? And does Sarkozy apparently being a Co-Prince of Andorra make his wife a Co-Princess? Or is this title solelyi for his governmental use?Kitchawan 21:39, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Birth date of eldest daughter

Was Judith born 12 days after the wedding? Is there a citation for this?Kitchawan 21:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Citations added.72.80.105.86 00:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Accent on first name

Was the accent there from birth? Or added later? Articles all over are inconsistent about this. Kitchawan 21:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Gypsie ?

I don't doubt Ciganer, or in Russian Chouganov, is gypsie (tzigane) but is there a published source ? Cecilia is I believe part gypsie and part jewish. Also Note: her father's name was Aron Chouganov, not Chougabov. He was born in Belz, Romania, see link: http://gw.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=mdelajudie&lang=en;pz=martine;nz=de+lajudie;ocz=0;p=andre;n=ciganer

=> I really doubt "Ciganer" has anything gypsy at all: it sounds like a Central European Jewish name, maybe given to a nomadic music player ancestor or something like that. There are no biographic sources explaining that "Ciganer = Rom origin". On another side, Roms have their own culture and names (they were unlikely to be called Yiddish names like Ciganer...)

What about Tsigane in French and Zigeuner in German, meaning both "gypsy"? RCS 09:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

=> The name "Ciganer" doesn't mean that André had Gypsy origins. Likewise the name of François "Hollande" (head of the French SocParty) doesn't mean he has Dutch origins at all. And for example, the Jewish name "Sarfati" ("French" in Hebrew) doesn't usually say anything strong about the possible French origins of the family that bears it. These names come often from obscure nicknames. So in lack of any source confirming it, I would recommend not to mention this dubious Rom origin for André. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.100.159.79 (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

=Citations added for Roma ancestry, per profiles in prominent French and English newspapers, with proper links.72.80.105.86 00:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

"Sarkozy"

• Use of "Sarkozy" to designate her in the article is misleading, you always wonder if the article is talking about her or about her husband. Something better should be found. Hektor 12:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Since the article is about her and the standard is to use the article subject's last name and she uses Sarkozy, we're stuck with that. As examples of how other articles deal with this, Sarah Brown (Prime Minister's wife) just calls her "she"; Betty Ford calls her Bloomer and then Ford after her marriage.--Gloriamarie 22:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Cécilia Albéniz

• Do you have any source to explain why this article should be called Cécilia Albéniz rather than Cécilia Ciganer or Cécilia Ciganer-Albéniz. Why would she have a different last name from the one of her brother's ? Hektor (talk) 19:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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