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editIts very nice to see the biography of C V Raman documented very well. Good Work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.154.189 (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Bold textthe article abbout c.v raman is very educational. I hope wikipedia brings some fantastic articles like this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.199.85 (talk) 13:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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editShouldn't this article be at C. V. Raman instead of being here? I propose to move this article to C. V. Raman as that is the name by which he is more popularly known. - Aksi_great (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC).
GA nomination
editUnfortunately, I have failed this article's nomination for GA status, as it meets the "quick-fail criteria" (it is currently tagged with {{cleanup}}). Fell free to address this concern and try again in the future. --Agüeybaná 01:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Schooling
editThe article does not give the school, where he studied during his childhood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.113.41 (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Other discoveries
editHe invented a kind of tasty noodles, which are named after him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.86.234 (talk) 16:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Award Added
editI am the program coordinator of the ACS-National Historic Chemical Landmarks program. I have added Raman's recognition as an International Historic Chemical Landmark to the list of honors and awards. KLindblom (talk) 21:56, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia policy on title Sir
editRe recent controversy on whether or not to include the title Sir:
Wikipedia does have a policy on this subject. To quote from the Wikipedia Manual of Style/Biographies at WP:MOSBIO#Honorific titles, The honorific titles Sir, Dame, Lord and Lady are included in the initial reference and infobox heading for the person, but are optional after that. The title is placed in bold in the first use of the name. We included Sir in the initial reference (first line) and infobox heading of this article until yesterday, so I will now restore them as per Wikipedia policy. Dirac66 (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Because Wikipedia has a dictatorial policy on this matter, I will avoid going into an edit-war and end my edits here. However, let me make it clear that I do not and will not agree with the 'policy' that Wikipedia seems to have dictated. I am from India and I've studied about CV Raman during my school days and I can say with confidence that no one calls or knows CV Raman as 'Sir'. For us he is just CV Raman, a highly-cherished scientist. Further, several notable individuals, including Stephen Hawking and Paul Dirac declined knighthood for various reasons, including their opposition of this whole concept. That Wikipedia has an official 'policy' encouraging use of these titles only shows that Wikipedia has already taken sides and endorsed this concept. Sigh, the West-dominated world of Wikipedia! Rishabh Singla (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Copy of this page
editIn case anyone who's edited this page is interested, http://indianscience.in/info/index.php/CV_Raman is a copy of this page that does not conform to the attribution requirements of the CC-BY-SA license, and thus violates your rights as creators of original content. Most Wikipedia editors seem to not mind too much (in fact I've heard some hilarious stories about this), but since anyone who's edited this page would be in theory entitled to file suit against the infringing content, I thought you all had a right to know. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 18:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Hatnote confusing - what is Venkata?
editThe newly added hatnote says In this Indian name, the name Chandrasekhara is a patronymic, not a family name, and the person should be referred to by the given name, Raman.
Does this mean that (1) Venkata is the family name, or (2) Venkata is a second given name and there is no family name?, or (3) Venkata has some other meaning? The use of Venkata is not clear (at least to non-Indians) and should be specified.
Part of the problem may be that Template:Indian name only has the given name and the patronymic as parameters. So if necessary, let's start by explaining the use of Venkata here on the talk page; then we can figure out how to put it in the hatnote or where to put it in the article. Dirac66 (talk) 23:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Possible vandalism by anilkumaru - changing CV raman to anil upppada
This needs to be reverted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barath s (talk • contribs) 14:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC) His name is Venkata Raman His father's name is Chandrashekhara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alderbaraan (talk • contribs) 15:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Achievements
editRaman did not discover the inelastic scattering of light using a mercury arc lamp. The effect was discovered using the sun as the light source with a system of crossed "monochromatic" optical filters to show that some light was scattered at a different wavelength. Only once the effect had been discovered did he turn to the more convenient mercury lamp, which had the advantage of having a line spectrum, which could be adapted for use as a monochromatic light source. Petergans (talk) 07:03, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Please document this and edit the article accordingly!209.86.76.247 (talk) 21:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Opposition to nuclear weaponry?
editDidn't he also oppose nuclear weaponry and was awarded the melted stones from the center of the first atomic explosion by the city of hiroshima?
At least that's what a video by "periodic videos" on youtube showed
Assessment comment
editThe comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:C. V. Raman/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Article has enough information, needs to be touched and restructured. IA (talk) 21:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC) |
Substituted at 01:10, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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Chandrasekhara vs Chandrashekhara
edit2409:4063:211A:3FE6:59F0:52A:4D2F:7294 changed the name Chandrasekhara to Chandrashekhara, even in the citations! No one seemed to notice to rectify it. Let us note that the name is Chandrasekhara for unanimity. Chhandama (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Age of Raman's wife
editUnder "Personal Life," it says:
"Raman married Lokasundari Ammal (1892–1980) on 6 May 1907. It was a self-arranged marriage and his wife was 13 years old."
1892 to 1907 would make her 15 at the time. Where does the 13 come from? 174.160.111.133 (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Good question. The archived version of the cited DNB source just says "While awaiting a posting, aged eighteen, Raman met Lokasundari Ammal (d. 1980). Defying convention he insisted on marrying her," The marriage date can be deduced from Raman's age (18) and birth date (7 Nov 1888) as between 7 Nov 1906 and 7 Nov 1907, but neither his wife's age nor her birth date are given. So perhaps we should delete her age as unsourced. Dirac66 (talk) 01:20, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Edited the info. In fact, there are so many contradictory sources. Most apparently, she was 13 at the time of marriage, contrary to several sources that indicate her birth in 1892. This is not to be taken as unusual in Hindu culture. Raman's brother's wife was only 11 (or so) on marriage. As to the original question, the answer is" "from the most reliable sources." Chhandama (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)