Talk:Cannon Street station/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 10:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " one of 19 stations" nineteen.

  n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "by Network Rail[5] and " three refs in the first three or so sentences, then no more for the rest of the lead, why not just move them all to the main body? Plus why such awkward ref placement?

  There's an easy answer to this - I forgot to do it. (All the London station articles, or at least the ones I look at, had citations like this, presumably in response to an ancient {{fact}} tag). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "Monument" is piped to a redirect.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " site of the medieval steelyard," the or just "a"?

  I'm going to go with "a" because of the context Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "the South Eastern Railway in " (a) grammar (b) dab.

  Dab fixed, what's wrong with the grammar?

• "City of London" is overlinked.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "London, Chatham & Dover Railway" and, not ampersand.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "for Continental services" why capitalised?

  Fixed (confused with "Continental Europe" elsewhere) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "The original hotel on the station..." about five run-ons in this one sentence...

  Ye gods, that looks terrible! Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "itself occurred in" too passive.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "17" and "N15" piped to redirects.

  I think this is because the articles were AfDed or redirected after the original text was put here - let me come back to this.

• "South Eastern Railway" ditto.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "a 60 chains " "adj=on".

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "of London Bridge. " -> "of London Bridge station."

  I think it's overlinked, fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " J. W. Barry " piped to a redirect, no need for the hyphen, and why just John Wolfe Barry per the article?

  Probably because that what the source had - fixed anyhow Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " Wren-style " link.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Charing Cross is overlinked.

  Fixed - these things normally happen when text is expanded above what was the first mention Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "The signalboxes outside the station were upgrading the following year" grammar.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "London and South Western Railway " not Southwestern.

  Correct, the London and South Western Railway is what it was called and where our article is Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "3pm"-> 3 p.m.

  Do we have a template for this? If not, why not? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "to allow the Southern Railway " does "the" really belong here?

  It sounds right. Ask Redrose64 Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

  It is right. Pick up any book concerning a pre-1948 railway of Britain, and you'll find that the definite article is universal. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

  Alright, alright, it was a question. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

• "signal box" or "signalbox"?

  Space, please Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "A high explosive also..." A high explosive what?

  That's what the source says : "At Cannon Street a large number of incendiaries set light to the repaired roof, and a high explosive damaged the wall by No. 8 platform where a train and two engines were standing." Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Could link nationalistaion to History of rail transport in Great Britain 1948–1994#The 1940s: Nationalisation?

  Don't see why not Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "Southern Region of British Rail" -> "Southern Region of British Railways"

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "prime .. prime..." repetitive.

  Tweaked Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "Modernisation Plan" is piped to a redirect, so it doesn't go to the desired section.

  This has been round the houses a few times - fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "In 1974 the" comma.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "On 4 March 1976 a" ditto.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "On 15 February 1984 it " ditto.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Greenwich is piped to a redirect.

  Fixed, although really the names of stations should all be consistent so that {{rws}} and {{stnlnk}} work as expected Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "£242,000 project. " other values have been given "today" inflated conversions.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Not sure we need a link for squash.

  Playing Devil's advocate, I'm not sure squash is as well known worldwide compared to football or tennis, so I think giving the benefit of the doubt to the reader might be useful. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "from St Pauls" -> "from St Paul's"

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " terminated at Charing Cross Station were" already previously linked, and not referred to as "Station", but if you insist, it should be "station".

  Forgot this, fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " the Greenwich Line as" line.

  Fixed (there was a big song and dance on WT:UKRAIL about "Line" vs "line" which is best put to one side for this conversation....) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "The Plumber's Apprentice" should be italics.

  Done Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "Cannon Street station viewed from London Bridge." fragment, no full stop needed.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Define tph. Also would expect a space between the number and the abbreviation.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Link Woolwich Arsenal first time.

  Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Ditto for Sidcup...

  Fixed, later link removed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• " a bomb exploded " linked to IED, is that really the case?

  Nope Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• Notes need referencing.

  Done as much as possible, except for the footnote in the infobox which has the citation hard-wired into the template. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• "Day & Reed 2008, pp. 25–256." really 231 pages to reference one sentence?

  Nope, it's a typo for 255-256 (2 pages) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

• In the suc-box, "South Eastern Main Line" -> "South Eastern main line".

  Done, though again I think this is a case where it was right for years and somebody moved it when nobody was looking. Probably. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

  This is one of those controversial capitalise-or-not things that have been so prominent over the last year. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

That's probably enough for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: All done, what else? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Five times above, a phrase like "is piped to a redirect" is used. What is wrong with piping to a redirect? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Ritchie333 looks good, no issues with the amendments, thanks for the quick updates. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:28, 16 August 2017 (UTC)