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Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I tried to change the genre classification earlier, but was stopped due to my lack of references. Unfortunately, there are no absolute defining terms for genres. Music is a spectrum, with grey areas, and genre is a net, not a true/false fact. Therefore, below I have posted an argument for my case; I hope it is enough for the administrators. Particularly because the current genre classifications are uncited (and impossible to cite, as all are) anyways. I think that it would be more accurate to replace the genre classification 'easy listening' with rock'n'roll or rockabilly. There are several arguments in favour of this: first, her songs are obviously have artistic merit, and are not background music- to call it easy listening (I suspect because it's not very electronic, it sounds older, and it doesn't have an overpowering bass beat)is demeaning. In addition, the classifications of easy listening found in Wikipedia's own article do not fit Emerald's music. While the music sounds circa 1950s, and uses jazz instrumentation, that is where the similarities ends. Calming effects, simple melody, instrumental music, and unobtrusiveness are not qualities of Caro Emerald as a musician. Second, while Emerald's arrangements include horns, swung eighth notes, and chords common in jazz music (such as minor sevenths, add sixths, and dominant seventh with no third), the drive of her singing and her music is very close to the style of rock bands in the fifties. There is more dynamic and power, and less coolness, to her voice than "jazz, easy listening" leads one to believe. Thirdly, below are some examples of fifties dance music, contrasted with Emerald's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf55gHK48VQ Note that the band has the same instrumentation as Emerald in most of her songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHANNkKBSNU&feature=related Notice the similarity to Emerald's horn arrangements in the brass section shots. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe2PZjYXoX8&list=ALYL4kY05133qmh5M27lMS4UJoxpQ2g4vC&index=9 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZD9u_mcKIA&list=ALYL4kY05133qmh5M27lMS4UJoxpQ2g4vC&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAGoqMZRLB4 Bluesy guitar riffs, like Bo Diddley's is included in some of Emerald's recordings. More common though, is an off-beat, full chord rhythm guitar style- also typical of Bo Diddley and his contemporaries. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huOqr2bXVs8&feature=relmfu .

Emerald also uses a very tonally centred, beat emphasizing pentatonic blues scale. This is typical of all rock and roll, but her style is much like the early music. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZfw6loJ8W8&feature=related

Thank you for considering my case. Woijciec (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)Username: WoijciecWoijciec (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Brook Benton duet

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

I feel this article should mention her duet of "You're All I Want for Christmas" with the late, great Brook Benton. Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:13, 23 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

So I did it. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 23:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Name of the artist and following WP:MOS

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Obviously, the article has a great deal of work left, but is rich in merit and sources. I did some merging of some text that was repeated more than one time in the article and feel that much more needs doing. In addition, I don't think so much emphasis should be placed on the use of songs in television commercials' soundtracks or movie trailers. TV series soundtracks and actual movie or documentary soundtracks, like the Disney one are significant, but given that Caro Emerald has received so many accolades for a debut album, I feel the advertisements are really no more than a footnote in the actual biography of the woman as an artist. This brings me to her name. Use of the person's first name is not ever used after the introduction in a biography; it is a typical indicator that the editor is a fan, which isn't encyclopedic, even if you are a fan! A choice needs to be made as to the surname of the person. It is my suggestion that in the intro and the lead of the article, she be referred to by her real last name, van der Leeuw. After her first song is released and she gains notability, I think she should be referred to as Emerald. However, I am not Dutch, so when using van der Leeuw, should the "V" in the name be in large case, like Van der Leeuw, or small case, like, van der Leeuw? --Leahtwosaints (talk) 17:52, 6 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

When the last name is not mentioned in conjunction with the first name, the first letter of the first word of a 'tussenvoegsel' (van de, van der, de, etc) should be capitalized. Not: "In early 2007 Dutch producer Jan van Wieringen invited van der Leeuw..."; not: "In early 2007 Dutch producer Jan van Wieringen invited Van Der Leeuw..."; but: "In early 2007 Dutch producer Jan van Wieringen invited Van der Leeuw..." 195.241.120.35 (talk) 00:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Caro Emerald in Concert

Was this released? If so shouldn't it be included here? All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:41, 25 November 2014 (UTC).

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