Talk:Celtx

No longer entirely free

No longer entirely free, monthly fee to share work from version 2.01

It never was "entirely" free -- but there has always been a solid, free version. Then there are a number of additional features, which cost money. Begeun (talk) 13:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

For many years, the free desktop software contained the pre-production and production features mentioned in the main article. A visit to Celtx's website today indicates that the desktop software has been discontinued, to be replaced by an online-only subscription system (unless you purchase an offline script-editing component), whereby the free option only enables the screenwriting functions. Curtinparloe (talk) 16:12, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Latest release?

0.9.7 is just a release candidate, not the latest stable release. Shouldn't it be changed back?

Is this program really open source, or is it merely built on top of open source software? When installing the program there was a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo that to my eye seemed to suggest that this program uses proprietary, copyrighted code controlled by the parent company. If this is open source, where can I download the source code? If I had the skills, could I modify the Celtx code to create my own screenwriting program? Is there documentation to the file formats, at least? One of the big problems with all of the screenplay software out there is a lack of standards, it is quite difficult to get your screenplay out of one format (example: Fianl Draft) and into another (example: Movie Magic Screenwriter). I would love to see an open standard published for formatting screenplays, so they could be transparently moved between apps.

Celtx has the ability to export to PDF format which is currently the standard format for all screenplays in Hollywood217.43.47.153 02:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

PDF is a final output format, its not a format you load back in and work on. So that's not a standard for scripts. --IceHunter (talk) 11:56, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The Source is available here: [1]

Added the source to the main article.

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Name Origins?

http://forums.celtx.com/viewtopic.php?t=3084

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Response: 1) Yes, it's open source. The code is available for all (From the celtx Download page: http://www.celtx.com/download/celtx-10-src.tar.bz2). As for file formats...it's open source, so if it uses a custom format you can always create a converter.

As for script formats...the program uses industry standard formats...so if you have issue with those, take it up with the movie, theatre, television, and comic book industries. Anyone in these industries would know these formats. Hell, they teach them in any basic screenwriting/playwriting class.

Finally, as to the legal mumbo jumbo: it's there to inform the user that the source code is open source, and that the PUBLISHED source code of OFFICIAL releases is controlled by CelTx, but that anyone can FORK the program using existing code as long as they change the name of the program they release. 24.165.165.137 (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Note: The celtx Download page link above does not work. The question "Download Celtx Source Code" https://ask.celtx.com/question/2282/download-celtx-source-code/ on the Celtx forum (asked Aug 25 2013) has no response (Jun 26 2014).

The Celtx FAQ says:

To get the classic Celtx desktop software create a free account at www.celtx.com, verify your account in your email, select the ‘Desktop’ tab in your studio, then download Celtx or purchase Celtx Plus.

Can I use classic Celtx desktop software for free?

Yes. Classic Celtx desktop software is distributed under an open source license, so you can download it, use it, and distribute it for free.

But the Sign Up form does not work (error "a.Hb is not a function"). And requiring a registration is not really in the "MPL" (Mozilla Public License) spirit.

There are some github repositories containing some Celtx source code, but without version history, and no verifiable authenticity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.141.104.250 (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Notability

It is mentioned by the BBC as one of 5 pieces of script writing software at http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scriptsmart/index.shtml

To Do

• Would someone consider expanding a little on the use of the term 'non-linear' in the phrase "...gives independent filmmakers and media creators an integrated and non-linear approach to the pre-production work phase..."? I know in video editing, non-linear means being able to jump around in one's edits without needing to scroll through the video, but what does that mean for a text-based program. Aren't all text editing programs 'non-linear'? A link or an explanation of the term would be appreciated. Warraqeen (talk) 11:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Reads like Marketing Material

(I am not very engaged with the Wikipedia community; my hope is that someone who is will fix this up to meet the norms.) This article really does read too closely to marketing material. Large chunks of it are more or less indistinguishable from text on the product's webpage. This isn't close to the level of quality I hope for in a Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.232.209.190 (talk) 01:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

removed template

This is the only edit that 41.232.209.190 has ever made and has gone a year and a half without further comment; I am about to remove the template from the article. — Robert Greer (talk) 18:00, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

History

It would be great to chronicle the history of the software from its open-source roots––which the developers prided themselves on––to where the software and its parent company is at today in terms of providing a service and taking what were standard options e.g. index cards out of the free version and moving them to the paid cloud version. Zer0Nin3r (talk) 09:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation

According to their Celtx 101 video at https://www.celtx.com/support.html the correct pronunciation is "keltics". Additional info: https://ask.celtx.com/question/2475/where-did-the-name-celtx-come-from/ and http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Celtx-Terry-Borst/dp/1435459016 187.54.201.138 (talk) 04:04, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Connected edit request

Edit request to update article by improving sources, and including information about the developer and its owner.

• Please add developer and owner to lead: The software is developed by Celtx Inc., which is owned by Boston, Massachusetts-based media company Backlight.  Done
• Add to history: Celtx's developer Celtx Inc. was founded as Greyfirst in 2000 in St. John's by entrepreneurs Mark Kennedy and Chad House.  Done
• Also add to history: Its Celtx pre-production software launched that year as a desktop service. The software was originally designed for small and independent production companies.  Done
• Also add to history: The original desktop software was built atop the open-source Firefox browser, allowing hybrid online/offline operation.  Done
• Also add to history: By June 2013, Celtx software was available as a subscription web service, in addition to a desktop version.  Done
• Add to history: In December 2014, Celtx developer Greyfirst changed its name to Celtx Inc.  Done
• Add latest version to history: As of August 11, 2022, the latest version of the software shown on the Apple store was version 3.0.  Done
• Better description for features section: Celtx is scriptwriting and collaboration software for screenwriters; film and television producers; and producers of theater, radio, podcasts and comics.  Done
• Please add a "Technology" section for better organization: Celtx originates from desktop software built on open, non-proprietary standards (e.g., HTML, XML and RDF) and licensed under the Mozilla Public License version 2.0. Feature development and language translations of the application were driven largely by the feedback and volunteer efforts of members of the international Celtx community.  Done
• Please add a "Developer" section: Celtx software is developed by St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador-based Celtx Inc. Celtx, Inc. is owned by Boston, Massachusetts-based Backlight, a media technology company founded in 2022. Backlight also owns four other media software businesses: ftrack, iconik, Wildmoka and Zype.  Done

References

Drivethru70 (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

@Drivethru70: Thanks for making such a detailed edit request instead of trying to do it yourself. This was just tagged as a stub so the timing is good. Let me review and make sure the sources say what you write. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

@Drivethru70: I went through and verified your edits and sources, and made the changes. After you posted you edit request, another editor deleted a large chunk of unsourced feature info, and marked the article as a stub. I restored the info with OK but not great sources - you'll want to keep an eye out for better ones in the future to keep the info from being deleted again. It's borderline promotional. If you need help in the future, you can always ping me with {{ping|Timtempleton}} instead of waiting for another editor to respond - the connected request backlog is quite high. I'm not sure if that will ever change, but for now there seems to be a disinclination to help connected editors. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:11, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• I don't know about all that, but even the citation for [3] doesn't mention podcast, podcast(s) or podcasting. It's a stupid citation, and no one pre-writes conversations. Huh, I wonder what Notecards are for? Duuuuh. (P.S.: this software only had merit when it was free. Ya greedy prigs. Cool shoutout to crew in your fake acronym though. Great stuff attention seeking whatchamacallit(s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betterego (talk • contribs) 17:36, 13 November 2023 (UTC)