Talk:Cessna Citation V

Latest comment: 2 years ago by BilCat in topic OT-47B - which variant is it?
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Specifications

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Hello @Nigel Ish:, you reverted my previous edit on specs stating offline references are allowed - stop forcing articles to use online sources only, perhaps because my edit summary was online refs for easier verification, but my edit summary was lacking the important expansion of specs. You are right, WP:offline references are perfectly acceptable, but it wasn't the main point of my edit. Are you OK if I restore the previous additions with this new ref? Thanks.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 12:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

You were also linking to what appears to be a copyvio. As such how can we be sure that the article is correctly presented and not been altered.Nigel Ish (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
A WP:copyvio would be to copy the text in wikipedia, not the case here. It is not altered.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 12:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Linking to copyvios is not acceptable - see Wikipedia:COPYLINK.Nigel Ish (talk) 12:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
OK, the link can be omitted as it would be another offline source.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 13:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Citation V vs Citation Excel

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I don't think it's appropriate to categorize the Excel as a "variant" of the Citation V in the infobox considering that the Excel uses a different fuselage, engines, flight deck, and carry-through section. Any arguments? Carguychris (talk) 16:34, 16 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

OT-47B - which variant is it?

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A citation (no pun intended...) in the article body says that Jane's All the World's Aircraft 1996–97 indicates the OT-47B is a Model 560, but it doesn't say which version. The globalsecurity.org page cited in the article says that the OT-47B is a Model 552, but I'm inclined to ignore this claim; globalsecurity.org is considered unreliable per WP:RSP, and both Szurovy and Joe Baugher indicate that the Model 552 is the U.S. Navy T-47A, a short-wing version of the S/II acquired in 1984, substantially predating the Ultra. While it's not unprecedented for the military to order an aircraft that's out of production, I don't think it makes sense here, as Szurov says that the 552/T-47A was designed for low-altitude maneuverability to simulate air-to-air combat, which is not necessary for monitoring drug smugglers; for that, you want endurance and speed at high altitude, hence an Ultra or Encore makes more sense. Carguychris (talk) 20:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Good guess! Per Frawley, Gerard (2002). The International Directory of Military Aircraft, 2002–2003. Fyshwick, ACT, Australia: Aerospace Publications Pty Ltd. ISBN 1-875671-55-2., it's based on the Ultra. BilCat (talk) 21:34, 1 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I've updated the article. Do you have a page number? Also, does the book indicate that the "Tracker" name was used? Carguychris (talk) 23:12, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
P. 61, and no, it doesn't mention the name "Tracker". BilCat (talk) 23:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Found a source for the name: Cessna on track. BilCat (talk) 00:03, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply