Talk:Chilean–Peruvian maritime dispute

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See the talk page of the War of the Pacific entry [2]for a discussion of the controversy generated by mention of the historical legacy shaping the current Chilean-Peruvian maritime dispute. User:Bdean1963 14 February, 2007

This as an absolutely Peruvian POV article, though I am aware its understandable, as it is a new/fresh article, which has been recently created and edited only by Peruvians so far (nothing personal). Next days, I will take the time to translate the very accurate and reliable spanish version, which is very stable and has been elaborated by Chilean and Peruvian in cooperation. Kind Regards --RapaNui 12:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

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This was in the Treaty of Lima article but belongs here instead. If any users are interested in merging it in, have at it! Calliopejen1 06:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

On January 26th, 2007, Peru’s government issued a protest against Chile’s demarcation of the coastal frontier the two countries share. According to the Peruvian Foreign Ministry, the Chilean legislatures have endorsed a plan regarding the Arica and Parinacota region which does not comply with the current, established territorial demarcation. Moreover, they allege that the proposed Chilean law includes an assertion of sovereignty over 19,000 sq. meters of land in Peru's Department of Tacna.

For its part, the Chilean government has asserted that the region in dispute is not a coastal site named Concordia, but instead refers to boundary stone No. 1, which is located to the northeast and 200 meters inland. Cite error: The <ref> tag has too many names (see the help page).

A possible border dispute was averted when the Chilean Constitutional Court ruled on January 26th, 2007 unconstitutional legislation that Peru said could be seen as a move by Chile to encroach on its maritime territorial sovereignty. While agreeing with the court's ruling, the Chilean government reiterated its stance that the maritime borders between the two nations were not in question and have been formally by the international community. [3]

It has been reported that following the Chilean judicial ruling in Lima’s favor, the Peruvian government has stated that it might turn to the international court at The Hague to solve the dispute.[1]

References

  1. ^ “Peru-Chile Sea Dispute May Go to The Hague” Lima, Jan 27, 2007 Prensa Latina [1] (accessed Jan 28 2007)

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The article definitely needs an explanatory map to put the dispute into geographical context.

Peruvian claim

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There's a slight inaccuracy in the map: Peru claims the boundary to be the bisector or equidistant line between each country's coast, not the one perpendicular to Peru's coast, as it seems on it. 190.21.98.242 (talk) 04:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'll look into this soon, and correct the map if there's a problem. Do you have a source? Evzob (talk) 09:55, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
This article states (with a citation) that Peru claims the border to be "perpendicular to the natural slope of the South American coast in a equidistant angle from both coastlines". So unless the article is wrong, it seems the perpendicular line is correct. Though it would be good to have some clarification on what an "equidistant angle" is supposed to mean. Evzob (talk) 10:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is also a land dispute

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Both claimed maritime boundaries start from the so-called "hito uno" (milestone number one), which is not exactly in the coastline, but a couple dozens of meters inland. Thus there's also a (small yet important) cone of land in dispute. 190.21.98.242 (talk) 04:21, 30 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Interesting observation. If you can find a reliable secondary source that mentions this, we should include it in the article. The title probably shouldn't be changed though, because it's mainly known as and referred to outside of WP as a maritime dispute. Evzob (talk) 09:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Criticism in Chile

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This section is based on statements by former Chilean President Ricardo Lagos, three Chilean senators, one member of the Chilean Parliament, and one well published scientist, all of whom have wiki bios:

Ricardo Lagos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Lagos Ivan Moreira: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Moreira Jaime Orpis: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Orpis Jorge Tarud: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Tarud Fulvio Rossi: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulvio_Rossi Frank Duarte: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._J._Duarte

All of their statements are referenced. To simply dismiss their statements as coming from "minor entities", without any references or proof (as done by 202.67.122.248, from Australia), is to dismiss the country of Chile as a "minor entity", and thus it can be considered as vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickpen (talkcontribs) 19:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

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