Talk:Christian Cage/Archive 1

Archive 1

Christian's appearences in Ring of Honor

Is it notable that Christian has made two (as of tonight) appearences in the Ring of Honor promotion? Tons of other workers have it noted, and I'd also like to put Christian under Ring of Honor occasional performers or almunus, now that he has been in two shows, and may return in the future.Sarge 2.0 18:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I Agree --Mikedk9109 19:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll put his name on the list of occasional performers in ROH, I just don't know where in the article to include information about his appearences.Sarge 2.0 21:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I would just make a new section for it a title it Ring Of Honor. Put the section right under the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling section. Just a suggestion. --Mikedk9109 21:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Vitalstatistics

Jeff Jarrett is 5'10". Is Christian really 6'1"?(Halbared 14:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC))

Re: Yes. He was billed as 6'2" 224 lbs in the WWE and was about that size in reality. He was clearly taller than Chris Jericho (about 5'10"-5'11") and about the same size as, if not a little taller than, Shawn Michaels (6'1" legitimately)

Had a look at a few of his pics, it is difficult to gauge his height from them, he is definately more than 3 inches shorter that Edge, but taller than Lance Storm. I think it is fairer to leave it at 6 ft 1 in. Looking at Michaels standing back to back with Stever Austin shows Michaels is more than 1 inch shorter than Austin.(Halbared 10:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC))

Re: Cool. Agreed

Haha, you were right, I found it here from straight as an arrow Lance Storm:oD http://www.stormwrestling.com/122605.html (Halbared 20:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC))

Can Somebody Tell Me Christian's Face Turn?

Christian has been a heel in the WWE, but is a face for TNA? Why?--Ed-kipedia 22:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Simply a change in characterization between the two companies. TNA, being a separate company, is not beholden to WWE's canon, though they do reference it at times. --HBK|Talk 16:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think TNA did turn Christian face. In his debut at Genesis. Christian was about to join Team Canada and be alongside his old buddy Scott D'Amore once again, and he even showed up with a Team Canada shirt on. Until he suddenly betrayed them and joined the Dudleyz in jumping them. --172.144.63.168 19:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Kayfabe or spoilers

Might want to put that he No longer champion

The Kafabe restrictions on this place is laughable. Kafabe's dead to any wrestling fan above five years old.

No, it's the same way that people don't want the winners of reality shows announced before they air. Oh, it's "kayfabe" and not "kafabe". TJ Spyke 23:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's the fact that some people don't want to read spoilers. As far fetched as that may sound, I actually like to not know what is happening before hand when watching TNA, WWE, etc.. It makes it more interesting. Mr. C.C.

Although WWE and TNA are so predictable, it's pointless watching. User:Killswitch Engage

Unprettier/Impaler

If I'm one crackpot railing against a sea of sanity, fine, whatever, but to me this reads like the two terms are interchangeable, when they most decidedly are not. Tromboneguy0186 22:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

There is no easy way to distinguish between past and present names under the current naming format (though the tables used in the Konnan article might enable this). However, the alternate name should definitely not be removed. Christian called the move by a different name for several years, and Wikipedia should not ignore this fact. McPhail 00:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I am jesse adams and I have to say this Christian Cage's Unpriettier is almost a toatly different wrestleing move than what Triple-H and all them use Billy Kidman's move was allot like it though.

The Many Betrayals of Christian Cage

I just want to ask one good question: does The Many Betrayals of Christian Cage article deserve to have a spot on the page? Personally, I believe it does, since Christian's character is widely recognized for being one of the most untrustworthy wrestling personas of all time, and that fact is one that has been pointed to on-screen several times even when the show wasn't soon after one of those kayfabe betrayals. It's kind of like the multiple personas of The Undertaker, except not quite as famous. And yes. I did make that article. Because I feel that it was worth a mention and a page. The Awesomeness Fan 19:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be very NPOV, and needs to be cleaned up (not in list format).Lmblackjack21 16:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It should be merged into Jason Reso's article. Heel turns usually involve a wrestler betraying another one, so there's nothing terribly remarkable about Christian Cage doing it that all the instances deserve their own article. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Only one problem with what you just said, Jtalledo. He's done this stuff at least once each year, and he didn't just turn heel each and every one of those times. In fact, as we all know, he turned face in his TNA debut by doing the same thing to D'Amore. And it is remarkable in a sense, because even Triple H, among others who have been heels even more than Christian has, haven't ended up doing it that many times, or each and every year since getting called up, for that matter. I say that whether we just refer to it in or merge it into Reso's article, the statement needs to have some honorable mention. And in any case, I'll have to look at it now and see how it can be made more NPOV. The Awesomeness Fan 18:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

In that case, it would definitely warrant a mention. I think something in the lead could be mentioned, in a sentence or two describing his in-ring character. An entire article is excessive though and might be original research. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:13, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with the original research thing. Each and every one of those occurances has been placed in at least one other article in the Wikipedia, and not by me. The only one that may deserve to be taken out is the last Trish one from 2004, and even that one actually happened, as you may find out from any Unforgiven 2004 pay-per-view recaps on the Internet.The Awesomeness Fan 19:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Original research isn't about whether or not the information is true, it's the nature of the content. From WP:OR: "unpublished material, for example, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories, or any new analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position — or, in the words of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimbo Wales, that would amount to a "novel narrative or historical interpretation". That's exactly what that article is. It takes a series of events that did transpire and creates a "historical interpretation". --Jtalledo (talk) 19:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, then. Merge it in. The Awesomeness Fan 22:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to double post, but I just put something in Reso's article under the "Wrestling Facts" section that basically summarizes the entire MBOCC article. Hopefully you guys can tell me if that's good enough. The Awesomeness Fan 19:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I personally think that TMBOCC page should be deleted, because why should all the people Christian has "betrayed" in his career warrant its own page when it's all a normal part of the sports entertainment industry? There's nothing special about it.

Okay, you're right, whoever posted this stuff up and didn't bother to sign himself. Go ahead and delete the page, preferrable after a couple of days. I know it's a normal part of the sports entertainment industry and all, but it is such a recurring thing with Christian that when he does this, you can't help but think back to each and every (at least highly notable) time he's done this before. When you can point out a character that has done this more than a supernotorious heel like Triple H or recently Jeff Jarrett, then it is to be considered somewhat meritable of mention. I now realize that at least for Wikipedia purposes, a whole page is overdoing it at least a little bit. But it does deserve mention nonetheless. -64.12.117.9 19:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Any sources about Christian becoming an American citizen?

I was wondering if there are any sources or links that state that Christian became an American citizen? I have never heard about this and was wondering when this happened and if it is mentioned anywhere?

Scanadiense 20:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Entrance Music

Should there be mentions of his previous entrance themes? Like Blood Brother, the themes he used with Edge, At Last, remixes of At Last, and the music that Tomko used after Christian changed his? L2K 14:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Winning the TNA Belt

Did anyone else notice that when he first won the title, it was at the same time his former partner, and onscreen brother edge won th title

You're not totally correct, and it's mentioned all about as part of E&C's article. 63.3.16.1 03:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Note on Impaler / Unprettier

Reso's inverted double underhook facebuster was known as the "Impaler" from 1999 to 2001 and as the "Unprettier" from then on. Gangrel and Edge have also had finishing moves known as the Impaler, but these were different moves. Per WWE.com, Reso pinned Matt Hardy at King of the Ring 2000 using the "Impaler" - "Christian scored the next elimination when he pinned Matt Hardy after the Impaler". The move is also described as the Impaler in this review. However, this review and this review, both written several years after the event, both name the move as the "Unprettier". The Impaler equals the Unprettier. McPhail 00:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Not to be disrespectful, but… why was that necessary? At least half of everyone knows the Unprettier was once called the Impaler. Was that just for sourcing reasons or something? 63.3.16.129 00:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

There was a brief dispute over whether the Impaler was an Unprettier or a DDT [1] [2]. McPhail 00:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Name move

I don't think it should have been moved. He has also just as well known (if not more so) as just "Christian". I think a move request before failed too. TJ Spyke 04:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Guidelines state the article title is to be what the Subject is best known as in this case Christan or Christan Cage.--Monnitewars ^(talk) 04:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Unprettier

is Christian's finisher really called the Unprettier in TNA? Doesn't WWE trademark that?

• That's what Tenay and West call it in matches. Lordsutch 17:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

The Unprettier is not a trademarked name by the WWE. Either Christian owns the trademark, or it has become the name for the inverted double-underhook facebuster, much as the front chancery facebuster has become known as the DDT.--ProtoWolf (talk) 12:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Tna world champ

When did this happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterman4 (talk • contribs) 01:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Christian was the first ever TNA World Heavyweight Champion on May 13, 2007 when NWA stripped TNA of all TNA titles. Christian was the first TNA Champion in the form of the physical NWA World Heavyweight Title. He lost the title that night to Kurt Angle in controversial fashion. The title was stripped on the May 17th, 2007 edition of iMPACT! and then a new champion in Kurt Angle was crowned at Slammiversary 2007. MC511 (talk) 04:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

This fight keeps going back and forth, and the same fight is also occuring on the TNA championship page. Is there any source listing Cage as the first TNA champion? What does tna say in their title history?LessThanClippers (talk) 01:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Face

He is not face as i downloaded the script for the 1/3/08 and it says who is face and who is heel (it was big help as we dont get impact in Australia) and its says he is a heel so the article that says he is face is wrong. --124.180.207.93 (talk) 23:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

On impact he's been clearly portrayed as a face, saving santa clause and teaming up with booker t. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.24.233 (talk) 07:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I would say he has not officially turned face, but headed in that direction. his cheap victory over Joe in the Gauntlet match is not a face action. He has been a tweener. However, the way he wrestled cleanly against angle definately hints to his about to be a face, i think its early to call it that thoughLessThanClippers (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

well he stilll uses the heel ramp. --124.180.30.83 (talk) 04:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Break the script out again. Is LAX faces or heels? Mshake3 (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hell if I know. They seem to be tweeners, but not in the usual sense of being in between. More like "full face one week", "full heel the next." TNA seems to be obsessed with confusing smarks. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, my point is that in the leaked script, when a wrestler was scripted to come down to the ring, either BABEFACE or HEEL was next to their name. However, for LAX, it said "LAX ENTRANCE", because it was in reference to which ramp they came down, and thus which ramp all the lights and camers should be focused on. Mshake3 (talk) 04:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The Male Nurse?

Since when was Christian ever known as "the Male Nurse"? A little help here? 209.247.22.151 23:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

In the IWA, in 1996, Don Callis booked Jason Reso as masked wrestler, the Male Nurse, who worked with Earl The Orderly. For years, I had no idea it was Christian, until Lance Storm was talking about it on the BSE Xtreme Xmas '06 commentary video. Staack117 (talk) 04:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Line in article

In the "Championships and accomplishments" section it atates:

"*Even though he was the de facto TNA World Heavyweight Champion at TNA Sacrifice 2007, the reign isn't officially recognized by Total Nonstop Action Wrestling".

This line doesn't make any sense. For a start, Cage was not the "de facto TNA World Heavyweight Champion", as that belt did not yet exist. This has been discussed endlessly on the TNA World Heavyweight Championship page. Whatever one may feel about that, the way the line is this article is phrased makes it appear that Cage was indeed(and unambiguously) the TNA World Heavyweight Champion at Sacrifice 2007, and TNA are being silly and/or perverse in not recognizing this legitimate TNA World Heavyweight Championship reign. I attempted to remove the line, and was warned for "vandalism" and threatened with being blocked from editing wikipedia! I find this rather perverse, far more so than the accusation levelled against TNA for not recognizing a non-existent title reign. If it is desired that some mention of Cage's "TNA" Title reign on May 13 2007(which never existed, except in retroactive continuity) MUST be included, the way it is phrased should be changed, so as not to make TNA look like they are being deceitful or revisionist. Dr Rgne (talk) 19:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe something needs to be specified there, yes. I have no problems which a change in the wording though. Let us wait for more opinions though, to get a clear consensus. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was

Resolved

RandySavageFTW (talk) 20:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Note: Please provide a specific reason as to why it should be moved.--S_RX 21:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - Well known by wrestling fans as Jason Reso, similar to Adam Copeland. Is referred to Jason Reso in Batista's book. It's no secret that is his real name. D.M.N. (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• RE: Actually his real name is William Reso. Jason is his middle name. I have a source that his real name is William as well.--WillC 21:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose - per D.M.N.'s reasons (took it out of my mouth :]). @WL, actually his real name (William) is already spelled out in his article, but he is preferred to be called Jason, and per WP:UCN, it should be Jason.--S_RX 21:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose, he was just Christian (without the Cage) for longer, but that obviously wouldn't work because of the religion. Best to keep it where it is. Nikki311 21:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

"Better known by his ring name Christian Cage" owned RandySavageFTW (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that's debatable. It should be changed to "Better known by his ring names Christian Cage or just Christian" or something to that effect. Who says he is better known as Christian Cage? You? Nikki311 23:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Nah, the article. That's why I put it in quotes. Someone's going to change it though and then like 10 more people will oppose, ya. RandySavageFTW (talk) 23:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

• You know what I'm going to say He was Christian from 1998 to 2005, and Cage from 2005 to now. There is no logic in arguing for Cage, because he has only had the name 3 years (half as long as his WWE run), and you can't ask for Christian because of its common use. As for Can't wait to see why everyone opposes, how about logic? Oppose if you didn't guess. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

How about "Christian (wrestler)." Oh, wait... Everyone will give me that quantifier BS. Yet when I nominate articles with quantifiers, everyone opposes. Laughable. RandySavageFTW (talk) 13:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

he already shows up in a search for "christian wrestler" so there is no need to move the page to that. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

...Yeah there is. It gets there quicker. He isn't known by Jason Reso at all. RandySavageFTW (talk) 13:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason for that result is the picture name, if you look at the search results. Highlights in red. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

what RandySavageFTW (talk) 17:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose per Darrenhusted (aka Smartest guy to grace this project.) Govvy (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment, Govvy. Darrenhusted (talk)

no RandySavageFTW (talk) 19:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

And BTW, Randy, I supported the move to Sonny Onoo. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

 Not done D.M.N. (talk) 09:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Currently not signed?

It is well known that the 2 year contract he signed with TNA in 2006 is now expired and has yet to commit to a new contract with TNA or a rumoured move back to WWE. The article should really say this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.91.112 (talk) 21:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

His contract with THA does not expire until December. It is also unknown if he has reached a deal with TNA or not, nor has he even talked to WWE. No reliable source has been presented that such has happened. The article should not state rumors. Wikipedia is based on facts, not gossip.--WillC 21:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

yeah, your right. we don't know if he reached a new deal with TNA or not. but there are plenty of reliable sources out there that prove he has been in contact with WWE. i'm not talking about dirt sheets either being reliable sources. maybe before you neglect a "great" point that someone makes, move your lazy hand and fingers, and make sure the isn't a reliable source out there before you make the judgment. your not a reliable source. how about that.

It isn't my job to find the source. If you want it added to the article then bring the source, because most times when a source is brung it is not reliable and I'm not the search dog. Also remain civil because the I'm "NOT A FAN OF Wrestlinglover" thing is not helping your case in this matter and you just made your own self look childish and immature.--WillC 08:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Contract issues

His TNA contract has run out. He is not currently signed with TNA or WWE. However, WWE has put an offer on the table for Jason to return and he has expressed some interest in going back to WWE because he wants to "go where the money is", now that he is getting older. Adam "Edge" Copeland has also expressed great interest re-teaming with him and has been pushing hard for it to happen if Reso returns. There are currently several plans within WWE if Reso does decide to return. The first plan is for Reso to re-team with Travis "Tyson" Tomko, who has resigned with WWE. Upon his re-teaming with Tomko, the two would either feud or align with Adam "Edge" Copeland. The second plan is for Reso to be a singles competitor and feud with Copeland, leaving Tomko completely out of the picture. Another plan that has been thrown out there is to have Jason return and re-team with Copeland, again, without Tomko. The beat down that Reso received at the hands of the Main Event Mafia on an episode of TNA Impact! was a way for them to write his character off TV for good in case he does not re-sign with TNA. However, it also left it open for him to return in a "revenge" storyline and become the leader of TNA's Frontline if he does re-sign.

Do you have a reliable source?--WillC 04:22, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

accoring to wrestlingnewsworld.com he backed out of the contractJonathanmbarnes (talk) 16:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Nicknames

Is "The Champ" a proper nickname for Christian or is it just what he was called whilst he was a champion? because i don't think it's a proper nickname for any wrestler with the exception of John Cena. ^The Jay ^Experience 04:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

He refers to himself as "The Champ" frequently in promos, regardless of him having a belt or not. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Not a nickname he just likes calling himself that because he was never pinned or submitted for any of the championships he won in TNA.--WillC 05:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

return to the WWE

is christian realy returning to the wwe because theres rumors that he will return at wrestlemania 25 to face jeff hardy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.129.133 (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Its rumors, so its not confirmed by a Reliable source.--SRX 19:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Could this be comsidered a source? Just wondering? http://www.wrestleview.com/news08/1230847096.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathan 930 (talk • contribs) 06:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

At one point it would have, but recently wrestleView was decided that it is only reliable for results of PPVs and tv shows.--WillC 06:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Someone should delete that he was the myster person who attacked Jeff Hardy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.21.7 (talk) 19:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It looks like it's 99.9% confirmed that Christian's returning and he will be revealed as the person who attacked Jeff Hardy at Survivor Series and as the hit and run driver that ran Jeff and his girlfriend off the road. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.94.147 (talk) 21:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Reliable source?--Truco 21:19, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source from the WWE or Cage himself that says that he is signed and playing that part? If you don't then you can't be 99.9% right.--WillC 21:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

TNA president confirmed Christian's departure from TNA pwmania.com has a link to the story i believe at least thats where i seen it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skmc1190 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

She has confirmed it in an interview with the Daily Star while they were on tour in the UK. --Mrrko (talk) 00:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

RS? Simon^KSK 00:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Link: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/66103/EXCLUSIVE-Deep-impact --Mrrko (talk) 00:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, now no one has to worry about it. He returned to WWE on ECW last night. So it's now confirmed that he returned to WWE, exactly as Dixie Carter stated. Gamloverks (talk) 14:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

This Is SO Stupid

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The result of the proposal was N/A (Reso re-debuted with WWE)--TRUCO ⁵⁰³ 03:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC) Okay. I understand wikipedia rules and such. I agree with them. I support them. But this is so stupid to argue on something some claim is a "reliable" source and other's don't claim it to be. Dixie Carter in her own words (with nothing to do with dirt sheets) has stated that Christian will be returning to WWE within a two weeks. If Dixie Carter (President of TNA) is not a reliable source, than what is? Of course she would spill the beans on that as WWE is her competition and she wants to spoil any surprises they have up their sleeve in effort to drop ratings. All of this same talk, and what is and what isn't a reliable source happened last October/November with the whole Chris Jericho Save_Us.222. Which was a sad time for Wikipedia. Because everyone who wanted to contribute to the article about something they already knew (and really wasn't a rumor, it was fact). And now the same exact thing is happening again with Christian in 2009. It just makes Wikipedia look unreliable. And don't give me a "what if it isn't Christian, or what if Christian doesn't come back. Because IT IS, and he is. It's known. It's proven. You said the same thing about Chris Jericho and the Wiki Administrators were wrong. It's not rumors. We give you sources. What else do you want? This is just super duper wiki stupid. Dixie Carter and Adam Copeland not being reliable sources, COME ON. Seriously. I follow Wiki-Protocol, I can prove 3 different ways (like i did with Jericho) that it's true, and have reliable sources, but you guys still want to be Wiki-idiots. Whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.229.206 (talk) 21:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

A reliable source is needed. Dixie is reliable but the site stating her statement is unreliable. There are multiple policies you and I must obey. No reliable source that Cage is returning to WWE then it can't be added. WP:SPECULATION, WP:RS, WP:Spoiler, WP:V, WP:Source, etc. If you don't like the rules then don't come on here.--WillC 21:34, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If one cannot reliably prove that Christian has returned to WWE, then how can it be stated in the opening paragraph? 80.195.146.94 (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Does http://www.pwmania.com/newsarticle.php?page=234159064 prove that he is coming back? Take a look :| —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.157.117 (talk) 20:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

PWMania is not a reliable source because they do not have an accurate fact-checking system.TRUCO 00:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. I agree with the guy who started this section. Dixie Carter said herself, in her words, a direct quote on the website for one of the UK's well known newspapers, The Daily Star, that Reso is returning to WWE. If that isn't reliable then what is? She said "He was the first big name to jump ship to us ad he is the first to jump back." Is that not good enough, the president of TNA Wrestling has stated that Jason Reso will be returning to WWE. Why can we not put this into the article although at this point in time it doesn't matter too much because he is thought to be returning at Royal Rumble in two days from now. We will find out then whether he is returning at the rumble, but he definately will be returning. 91.106.46.227 (talk) 23:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Link to that source? --TRUCO 23:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

This is one thing I find ridiculous. Can't you wait? RR is 2 days away. I can not stress this enough. Did she say WWE? Did she say the he is back a t the WWE. No. She did mention WWE at all, and if she did, it was indirect. Simon^KSK 23:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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Nicknames

Instant Classic needs WWE adding to it, he was called it by Matt Striker on ECW. 91.107.137.30 (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Striker said, "This moment has just become instantly classic." No reference to Christian being the "Instant Classic" was made. Therefore the nickname is not currently used in WWE. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 22:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

2009 Theme

Do we have any sources for the name of his new theme being "Just Close Your Eyes (2009 Version)", or are we using that as a placeholder? Lemon Demon (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Christian's new theme is not by James A. Johnston it is by Jim Johnston. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JustinThunder (talk • contribs) 23:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Source, and please sign your name with 4 tildes. Simon^KSK 23:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

James A. Johnston is Jim Johnston. It's his full name. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 08:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Rumours are circulating that the theme is performed by Story of the Year. However the theme is written by Jim Johnston so until we hear confirmation as to who performs the theme it should stay as it is currently written.86.11.155.212 (talk) 18:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Well the theme is written by Story of the Year but it is remixed by Jim Johnston ~~fredleegrapes~~ 8:49pm 2-16-09

The theme is written by James A.Johnston and was originally performed by Waterproof Blonde. This version of the theme is available on WWE The Music, Vol.6 and the sleave notes indicate the theme was created by Jim Johnston. We haven't heard any confirmation over who performs this remixed version but whoever it is certainly can't of written a song that was already written can they.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Robriotuk (talk • contribs)

It seems that the song is performed by Story Of The Year as shown on WWE.com. Can someone get a cite in there? Lemon Demon (talk) 01:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

CHANGE OF THE MOVES

He is no using the Frog Splash in his return in ECW,when he is in the Turnbunckle, using Diving Headbutt?

And now his Finisher is called The KillSwitch, but originally was called Unprettier —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simoncastejon (talk • contribs) 19:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm all in favor of keeping things current, but don't forget the "no week-to-week" policy for such things. Killswitch is most likely going to be the new name, but it's only been used once, give it some time to see how it plays out before committing it to Wikipedia, as wrestling ideas and plans change on a daily basis.Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 18:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Frog Splash and diving Headbutt has only been used once so far. Killswitch is the new name, check the source. Simon^KSK 18:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe diving headbutt is up to x2 now. Well, he used it twice in the match, one worked, one didn't.71.109.251.120 (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually WWE removed anything about Christian's Finisher from the bio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.209.166 (talk) 18:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

They must have removed it. They might have a new name for it. I'll delete the finisher, just in case. Simon^KSK 18:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Myspace?

I found his myspace account, and i'm almost positive it's his:

www.myspace.com/jayresotna

Should we add it to external links?

It would need to be confirmed by him. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 05:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

ECW Title Match

It doesn't say that he lost the ECW championship match to Jack Swagger on ECW this week. http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/stories/bSPOILERS_ECW_On_Sci-Fi_Results_For_Tonightb.shtml For proof.Gilagod101 (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Because it is week by week and it hasn't happened yet. Unless he wins the match should it be noted.--WillC 22:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

But on other articles about wrestlers, they have matches that they lose, so why are you being lazy?- One Pissed Fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.53.139 (talk) 21:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Because I can.--WillC 22:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Because sometimes a loss is just a loss, not notable. For instance, André losing to Hogan at WrestleMania III was monumental; whereas, Christian losing to Jack Swagger... not so much.-- Darth Mike  (join the dark side) 05:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC) disturbia disturbia

Meh, as soon as the feud blows over it should probably be mentioned. I mean, it's his first feud upon returning and featured several wins over a champion and subsequent (losing) title match. I think you guys could have been a bit more helpful in your tone though...I mean, I can relate to Mr. "One Pissed Fan" at times. --Kaizer13 (talk) 17:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Money In The Bank Qualifying Match

Whoever is in charge of adding details to this page should add a section on Christian qualifying for the WrestleMania 25 Money In The Bank Ladder match in a Tri-Branded battle royal on ECW on Sci-Fi on the March 10th edition. He defeated, Paul Burchill, Chavo Guerrero, Ricky Ortiz, Dolph Ziggler, Kung Fu Naki, R-Truth, JTG, Shad, Vladimir Kozlov, The Great Khali, Goldust and Tommy Dreamer.Ace2K9 (talk) 17:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Wrist-lock Finisher

In the WM25 MitB match, it was called the "Unprettier". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.53.87.170 (talk) 03:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

injured at wrestlemania? he was injured he have some scars around his left eye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.111.107.17 (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

NWA Championships not recognized by WWE"

Do we know if there is a reason for this? Many other wrestlers have NWA, WCW and AWA reigns recognized in their WWE profiles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jame O'Deen (talk • contribs) 03:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Because he won it when he was part of TNA. Azuran (talk) 18:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I would have to agree with that reason. The only reason WWE acknowledge other reigns for certain wrestlers, is because they are either under contract or they have enough respect for them not to be-little their accomplishments. As for Cage, they don't want to admit to their fans that a wrestler can do something outside of WWE. Acting as if all Cage has done nothing for the pasted 3 years other than sit around, than saying "hey, there is another national professional wrestling promotion out there that Cage has won two world championships in and spent three years there, that is why you haven't seen him". The ego of the WWE shows its ugly face once again.--WillC 19:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

It's because they don't "recognize" TNA as a "major" promotion, and they don't consider the NWA World Heavyweight Championship the way it should be. In fact, Jim Ross was even noted saying that the NWA title had lost it's luster. Crash Underride 16:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Why is he using the Diving Headbutt?

Seriously, I wonder is Christian using the Headbutt as a tribute to Chris Benoit? He used the FS for Eddie Guerrero, right? If that's the case then it's great to see that there is still someone who respects Benoit's career. Although, it ain't exactly like Benoit's but it's still good. If not, then what a great coincidence(although, i don't believe in 'em) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.218.81 (talk) 09:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Diving Headbutt is a common professional wrestling move, I do not see it in anyway as a tribute to Benoit, the way he executes it is also very different from Benoit's as Christian's version of the Diving Headbutt requires him leaping making it look more like a splash only using his head to inflict the damage as opposed to Benoit who simply falls forward and using his head against the opponent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.61.200 (talk) 00:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)