Talk:Christina Ricci/Archive 1

Archive 1

Breast Reduction

I remember reading somewhere not too long ago that she had had, and admited to, breast REDUCTION surgery (going from like C's or D's down to a size lower). It had something to do with her being very vocal about it, giving her opinions on why it shouldn't be such a negative step for actresses to take even though she knew it would hurt her in finding some work in Hollywood, that sort of thing. Can anyone find where that information came from? If it's true that's an aweful unconventional stance to take in the film industry and worthy of note here. If it can't be sourced I don't want to put it up. I remember this article however the magazine escapes me. It must have been people magazine[Sunday, 2006-12-24 T 09:22 UTC]

It's a valid point and arguably notable. She certainly looks like she's had a reduction, but keep in mind that she's also anorexic (and starved herself publicly for "Black Snake Moan"). This is the best article I could find, but it's very vague: http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/ricci%20slams%20breast%20reduction%20rumours

She doesn't actually deny having a reduction, you'll notice. She only denies having it done to help her career. Apparently in interviews she attributed her bouts of anorexia to her hatred of her own breasts, but good luck finding those original sources. 67.181.72.50 (talk) 08:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Picture?

Why isn't there a picture of her? SkaTroma 16:00, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

We had one... Must have been deleted... too bad, it was a good pic. Dismas|^(talk) 18:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I remember that, whoever deleted it should have commented why...was it a copyright thing?SkaTroma 19:28, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

SkaTroma, if you read the history for the page it mentions a bot removing the photo (recently) and providing a reason. This article needs a photo. --Demonslave 14:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

what happened to the picture of her? If it was deleted can we have a new one?? 202.6.138.35 13:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The past pictures have been removed due to copyright issues. Hopefully the current picture will stay as it is a promoional photo and hence fair use. MartinDK 08:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I removed the "reqphoto" tag as it seems someone put up an acceptable photo. --Miss Dark 05:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

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People, what the heck. You don't have to have copyright if you are using an image for analysis or review. An encyclopedic article falls under fair use. So just stick a picture of her up there and like it.66.41.66.213 05:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Quite wrong. See WP:NFC. Ward3001 (talk) 01:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

That picture doesn't look like her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.128.188.78 (talk) 05:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

On dating Justin Timberlake

Just because YOU don't know it's true does not make it erroneous, if you want to want until every other website has it posted before you will stop deleting it then fine, it's merely relationship trivia...lighten up Francis.SkaTroma 14:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

This is not a gossip site, its an encyclopedia. Unless you have some form of reference to back up your claims, you cant include it in the trivia. - Popmonkey 15:30, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Fine, wait until you read it on whatever site you deem trustworthy...then you can add it here so it's old news by then. Can you hear my eyes rolling? SkaTroma 20:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, not a breaking news site.thx1138 09:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Great, so the aspiration is to be a 1976 Brittanica?? Did anyone make an entry about that moon landing yet or is that still too 'fresh'??SkaTroma 05:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand there needs to be a reliable source supporting this claim. Why is this so important to you anyway? Again, go back to reading US Weekly if you want to read rumor and conjecture.

Fuck you. Who says you get to say what Wikipedia should and should not be? Doesn't everyone's voice count on a wiki or is this some sort of new facism since Wikipedia has gone all corporate. Policing is fine and everything, but people come here to look and find things they want to know about. Just because Brittanica thinks it is above them to list who dated who and when doesn't mean we have to make an executive decision that they are right. Maybe they're right, maybe they're more mature, but that's not the point. If you want a hierarchy update system then go found an online encyclopedia where you are the god. Otherwise, let people use the internet and the wikimedia any way they want. If you go to a Britannica entry on Elizabeth Taylor they'll list all her life history and shit. Just because back in the day people got married and now they just fuck and run and shit it makes a difference? Or maybe it's that she's really old, so then we can post the gossip when we don't really care about it anymore. Think about it. I probably won't change your mind, but think about it, for a second. Sometimes that's the best you can hope for. And if you start policing and make this site about what you want instead of the democratic dreams of the internet and wikimedia being about what the people want, this site will lose its relevance and appeal and fall apart in the face of better understanding and accomodating competition. Seacrest Out!

General issues

• Hi guys. In her personal life section, there is no mention of her current boyfriend, Kick Gurry. He is clearly pictured in various articles, including: http://thesuperficial.com/2008/09/christina_ricci_in_a_bikini.php?bfm_index=1 Someone please edit that in somewhere, since we all know that a person's romantic life is a pretty big part of anyone's personal life. Thanks!

• A photo. Can anyone find one that would not be a problem copyright-wise?

• Trivia. Somebody removed the point about her appearing in see-through clothing and braless at premieres. This is something she's famous/notorious for.

• We should get to work on a more detailed biography. I'm looking up stuff up right now.

I fixed most of the problems you just mentioned. But - we definitely need more info on her film career and personal life. JackO'Lantern 18:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

• Interesting that she has renounced her Italian ancestry and does not speak to her father. She is one-quarter Italian. Questors 15:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't think she is one quarter. Based on the quote, it seems she is 1/8th. I'm aware that the IMDB says "one quarter", but the quote that I added to the article is the only reputable source I've seen on her Italian ancestry. Mad Jack 07:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Never mind, I just saw your blog and the family tree records - interesting. She definitely spun it out to be more distant then it really was. Mad Jack 07:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Why is she listed under "People who suffer from eating disorders"? I can't find a reference to her having any kind of eating disorder in the main article...although, it may have been edited out.

There were several articles about her problems with anorexia around the time Sleepy Hollow came out. I'm sure with help from google some sources could be found. I'm was wondering why her boughts with anorexia were not in the article. That's a tough disease to overcome. 72.77.132.21 (talk) 04:39, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

History of Self-Injury

I have read from at least two sources that she had a history of self-injuiry. Should that be mentioned?

I recall that myself. If you can source, then add it absoulutely. FerventDove 02:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

There's some information and sources at http://self-injury.net/doyousi/famous/ if someone wants to add it. She's already listed at List of self-harmers. Mdwh 19:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

internet pics

Does the fact that topless and "nip slip" pictures of her are popular on the internet really warrant a mention in her article? I mean, isn't the same true for every hot actress? I'm removing it. MrBlondNYC 19:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• It does warrant mention in so far as that she is _notable_ for showing up at premieres and such events wearing see-through clothing and no bra. This isn't a "nip slip", but an intentional exposure of her nipples to the press, almost exhibitionist in nature, that is not that common among celebrities.

First, let's talk about the part about the pics of her from Prozac Nation being popular on the internet. Pics of an actress in a nude scene being popular on the internet is notable? If your reasoning is because this was before the film was released, the same thing happened with Anne Hathaway (actress) when she did Havoc (film). The internet popularity of their nude pics is not a notable part of either of their careers. Their nudity in the film itself is, sure. Second, the part about being "exhibitionist"? Are you kidding? It's not intentional though we'd like to believe so. The clothing is only see-through in those pics because of the hundereds of bright lights of the paparazzi bulbs. If you were standing right next to her, you would not be able to see through her top with the naked eye - no pun intended. Damn near every hot chick actress from Hathaway to Jessica Alba to Renee Zellweger has the same kind of pics on the internet. Where have you been? Yeah, you would think they would prepare for such a thing but because they can't see through it when looking in the mirror they don't realize it. And I'm thankful for that. But should this be added to their articles as notable parts of their careers? MrBlondNYC 07:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I think you are not quite aware of the frequency with which Ricci wears these clothes, as opposed to other celebrities. Also, if you would actually look at the pics, the clothing isn't see-through by accident, and would not appear different from another point of view. Yes this happens to other celebrities, but in the case of Ricci you are mistaken. The fact that she so often does not wear a bra underneath these clothes can hardly be a coincidence when so many other pictures of her (non see-through) clearly show her wearing a bra. This fact has been discussed widely on the net, and among her fans. I am sorry if you feel this is inappropriate, but it is a fact that warrants mentioning.

Show me where I can see these pics and I'll happily look at them. LOL But I have still have serious doubts whether that warrants mention in her article and maybe we can leave that up to other users. We can even start a poll. First of all, it's not so uncommon for a woman to go braless, even one with large breasts. Sure, it's more interesting when it's a celeb. Second, such debates happen any time actress appears to be wearing see-through clothing as to whether it's on purpose on not. But the fact that stills from her nude scenes were spread on the internet do not warrant a mention unless you can prove that that is more notable than any other stills of nude scenes of any other hot actress, "tig bitties" notwithstanding. But if you're willing to show you me what you're talking about regarding the paparazzi pics maybe I'll change my mind. MrBlondNYC 08:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see Charlie Dimmock, a popular gardening tv presenter on the BBC. Suggest a similar subtle mention.--Minotaur500 04:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

That's crazy, she strapped her breasts down? I swear I saw her do that in a movie too.--NeF 01:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Early life

Tiny at just over five feet, Ricci stopped growing when she was ten years old.

I have removed this sentence, since:

• Just over five feet isnt't tiny for a woman. See Average height.
• The idea that she stopped growing at ten years of age seems preposterous. Unless someone can find some very strong evidence for this claim there is no justification for it to appear on Wikipedia.

Soobrickay 21:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Careful...

the fan website, http://www.christinaricci.info has turned into PETA/Anti-Christina propaganda site. after it was discovered she wore reindeer fur.--Hailey 06:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

gwendy doll

Both Christina Ricci and Sarah Michelle Gellar are listed as the voice of Gwendy Doll in Small Soldiers. I always thought it was SMG. Is there some reason one doll would have had two voices?

141.161.127.75 20:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Gwendy doll is a "kind" of doll like Barbie. There are more than one in the movie. They come alive in the movie and attack (along with the toy soldiers) making screeching sounds much like the birds in "Birds". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.135.174.89 (talk) 12:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Suspected inaccuracy

I question the validity of the statement that she has a "Move or Bleed" tattoo or a "Fuck" tattoo. Can anyone substantiate this claim, preferably with references and/or photographic evidence ? --Minotaur500 11:06, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Minotaur500 (talk • contribs) 11:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Fair use rationale for Image:12487.jpg

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New tattoos and peircings?

There are some new photos of her getting a new tattoo and actually showing off her breasts to the camera. Half sexy half disturbing. Maybe those interested in her tattoos (or breasts) should take a look. They are easy to find. She has also hinted on dateline that she has had a clitoral hood piercing done.

Plastic Sugery?

Does anyone know if she has gone under the knife? I've heard this recently but hope it ain't so.

duh?

Im surprised - no war about how her last name is spoken? Lets start one! I say its "Riki", not "Richi" ;) --Echosmoke 16:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

That's because there's no reason. It's pronounced /ritʃi/ (or "reechee", if you're not familiar with IPA). <c> in Italian is used to represent a [tʃ] affricate when followed by the letters <i> or <e>, and <ch> is used before <i> and <e> to represent [k]. If it was pronounced /riki/, it'd be spelt 'Ricchi'. Read the article on Italian orthography for more information. I'm afraid this is about as close to a war as you're going to get. :-) --Kgaughan (talk) 03:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that we should add this point. Since I have many family members who pronounce it "Richy" or "Ricky" kenderserenity92

Two comments. It should be in IPA format. Secondly, I disagree that it's "Reechee". I believe she pronounces it "Richee". In any event, with disgreement please add a source before restoring. Ward3001 (talk) 03:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Found a source in a youtube video gonna add now! comment added by Kenderserenity92 . If you want to put into IPA format go ahead, but keep in mind there are many people who aren't familiar with that system.

YouTube is a completely unacceptable source on Wikipedia. It's also your interpretation of how she is saying it, which is a violation of original research. And you keep in mind that the IPA system is the official way to do it on Wikipedia. Thank you. Ward3001 (talk) 21:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Persistent multiple IP vandal

I am seeking support for a request for long-term partial protection of the article from anonymous editors because of persistent vandalism that is occuring from different IPs who insert the following inaccurate information: "She portrayed Lisa Hawkins, the older sister of Jim Hawkins in the pirate movie version of Tom and Jerry". All IPs are through Hughes Network Systems. The same erroneous information has been added to the article numerous time over the past few weeks. No edit summary is ever given, and the vandal has been asked several times to explain. Some AIVs result in a block; others don't because it's the only vandalism from that IP on that day. I also made a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The administrator who responded said he could only protect it for a few days, and suggested that I try to find consensus for longer term protection. Immediately after the protection expired, the vandal resume the vandalism. I will make a request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but I would like to have some other editors backing me up before I do so. Here are the diffs for the vandalism: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9].

These are the IP addresses:

• 66.82.9.88 (talk · contribs)
• 66.82.9.109 (talk · contribs)
• 69.19.14.15 (talk · contribs)
• 69.19.14.18 (talk · contribs)
• 69.19.14.21 (talk · contribs)
• 69.19.14.30 (talk · contribs)
• 69.19.14.36 (talk · contribs)

Another possibility is a range block since the IPs cluster within specific ranges, but some admins aren't familiar with that procedure.
Any comments or other suggestions would be welcome. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 19:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support Along with the recent vandalism at Bo Derek, this is becoming tiresome. Dismas|^(talk) 20:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no "White Rose"

Somebody please fix that. It shows up in multiple articles. The movie may have been in development at one time, but, where is it? Thin Guy 76 (talk) 07:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 15:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

New Movies

She currently has 2 new movies in post-producion called "All’s Faire in Love" and "Long Time Gone" that have no mention in the article. They will be released in 2009. Can someone please add them. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.218.64 (talk) 02:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

It took me a while, but I figured out how to add them. because I checked up on these movies and they ARE coming in 2009. Kenderserenity92

Reverted Long Time Gone. See WP:CRYSTAL. Films that have not begun filming should not be listed. Ward3001 (talk) 03:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Past Movies

One movie she did in 2003 was left out: Christina Ricci played Cassie in "The Gathering" where she got shot at the end.Tlorenzo (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

• Actually, it was in 2002 - and if you check the filmography for that year... :-) -Duribald (talk) 08:26, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Out of Order Dates

The "Later films and career break (1998–2005)" section needs the last paragraph moved up. A 1999 item is listed after 2005. 24.21.10.30 (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC

Semiprotection review

• 19:59, 26 May 2008 LessHeard vanU protected Christina Ricci ‎ (vandalism by ip range, not able to block all & blocks are after the fact [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed] (expires 19:59, 28 May 2008 (UTC)))
• 10:59, 1 June 2008 CIreland protected Christina Ricci ‎ (Renewed identical vandalism by IPs after protection expired/ [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed] (expires 10:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)))

That was sixteen months ago. I'd like to review this to see if semiprotection is still considered necessary. As well as welcoming comments from regular editors I've contacted CIreland, the last protecting admin. --TS 06:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

• Ummm... 18:10, 14 June 2008 Acalamari (talk | contribs) changed protection level for "Christina Ricci" ‎ (Grawp target [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop])
• I think this is the log entry you were looking for Tony. I'm not opposed to removing the semiprotection. It seems fairly clean of BLP violations at the moment so with flagged revisions being implemented soon anyway, I guess we could give it a try until then. Vyvyan Basterd (talk) 07:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Born in a Prison?

The October 2009 issue of "Maxim" page 21 says Christina Ricci was born in a prison. Looked her, IMDB, other places... found nothing. Anyone else? I am guessing it was a typo. (it was in a quiz where you match up the name with a number and the answer could have been wrong) --Billy Nair (talk) 05:23, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a mistake. Maybe a mix-up with Leighton Meester? All Hallow's (talk) 23:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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Requirement for a 'facts box'.

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Phrasing

Maybe she shouldn't be called an "adult actress" since that implies, to me at least, that she does pornography. 173.22.123.35 (talk) 17:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree. I've been to this page a couple times for information and it bugs me every time. I'm going to change it if I come up with a term that works, but I'm still trying to come up with one. cargocontainer (talk) 21:30, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Hank Williams Jr Tattoo In Pubic Area?

Is this a joke? None of the referenced articles included info on this, as far as I could tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.13.247.241 (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

pic

Could someone please change the first picture of the article?? Please... Christina looks like a Gremlin! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.63.52.88 (talk) 20:32, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Childhood

Information on her childhood should be added to her Personal life. The fact she self harmed during the addams family, her eating disorder, depression and she covered all the mirrors in her house. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.121.6 (talk) 10:13, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Error in Early work section

"... discovered Ricci at age eight in a school play ... After this, she did several commercials starting at the age of six."

Can't both be correct. The second claim is not referenced. Huw Powell (talk) 00:14, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

New Lizzie Borden Movie

Why is there no mention that Ricci is staring in the upcoming Lifetime movie Lizzie Borden Took An Ax? --Matt723star (talk) 15:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Why haven't you added it? - SummerPhD (talk) 16:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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