Talk:City of Industry (film)

Based on the Sour Lemon Score

The plot of this film bears several resemblances to Donald E. Westlake's 1969 Parker novel The Sour Lemon Score, but is not officially an adaptation. See these multiple, reliable sources (or read the book and compare to the film):

• Theiss, Bryan (November 17, 2011). "Mystery Spotlight: Donald E. Westlake". Scarecrow.
• Stroby, Wallace (January 13, 2014). "The Five Best Heist Films You've Never Seen". Criminal Element.
• Reynolds, Trent. "The Sour Lemon Score". The Violent World of Parker.

Putting this in talk since I have no interest in getting in an edit war with a deletionist. --The Cunctator (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Be civil. I am in no way a deletionist, learn a thing or two about someone before you call names. I am, however, a remover of non-notable fancruft, personal websites, blogs, etc. If this is your blog then, congrats! But if you can't find a notable, reliable source, then too bad: it's then just a fan theory and belongs on those fan sites, not an encyclopedia. JesseRafe (talk) 20:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Your behavior is markedly uncivil. The Scarecrow Project is a 501c3 non-profit run by film experts. Wallace Stroby is a well-established crime novelist; CriminalElement.com is a carefully moderated site managed by MacMillan Publishing. Neither sites are "personal websites" or "fancruft". The Violent World of Parker, while now defunct, was an encyclopedic and reliable site with careful research. The guidance on reliable sources emphasizes *reliability*, not whatever unclear standard JesseRafe is applying.

Here are some more articles one can remove reliable sources from based on JesseRafe's agenda: A Murder of Quality, Suzy Spencer, Compulsion (1959 film), Diana Rowland, Meyer Levin, David Joy (author), Watt Key, Louis Herthum, Bertus Aafjes, Ann Parker (writer), Ōoka Tadasuke, The Friends of Eddie Coyle (novel) . . .

Or maybe one could accept that CriminalElement.com is a reliable source. --The Cunctator (talk) 19:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

This is the second request I am making to the above user that he or she learn to be civil. If the above editor wants to remove information from other Wikipedia pages, they may do so, but that shouldn't be discussed here. The "Wikipedia:Other stuff exists" argument is generally a poor one and this is not an exception. If your agenda is to simply delete things, then that's on you and is an argument you'd have to make on your own. Don't put words in my mouth, or insinuate arguments which I've never made. JesseRafe (talk) 20:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I believe CriminalElement.com is a reliable source, and it is used so consistently on Wikipedia. It is not an insinuation to state that JesseRafe claimed CriminalElement.com is "non-notable fancruft, personal websites, blogs, etc." and a "fan site", a claim used to justify his deletion of properly sourced content. Or was that JesseRafe putting words into JesseRafe's mouth? How uncivil. --The Cunctator (talk) 20:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Contra JesseRafe's assertion, the "Wikipedia:Other stuff exists" argument is often a good one (as the essay there notes). --The Cunctator (talk) 20:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Uncredited: Elliot Gould

Anyone know why Elliot Gould wasn't listed in the final credits? (He played Henry, the bookie or mafia boss or whatever that Stephen Dorff's character owed $40,000 to and offered to pay $60,000 to if Henry's crew helped kill Harvey Keitel's character.) SanJoseRobert (talk) 09:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)