Talk:Cliff Christl/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 15:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: SSSB (talk · contribs) 21:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I think I'll take this one on. It's nice and short, hopefully I can complete my initial review before I turn in. SSSB (talk) 21:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

• Copyvio detecter shows no issues. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• I get that we might not have any images of Christl himself. But can we find an image relating to his work. Maybe the logo of the Green Bay Packers hall of fame, with a caption describing how he contributed to it? SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • File:Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame Logo.png is a non-free media, and thus wouldn't be able to be used in this article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• "who is the team historian" we need an {{as of}} in there please. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • I have purposefully avoided "as of" statements and typically don't see this for statements about someone's current job in the NFL. As an example, we don't say "As of 2024, Jordan Love is a quarterback for the Green Bay Packers." « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

    Yeah, seems reasonable. SSSB (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• Source 4 needs to be recited for the first sentence in the "Journalism career" section. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Source 9 mentions he also won awards for best national sports story twice. This would be a nice detail to add. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Source 9 mentions that he briefly worked on the Wisconsin High School Football beat. This might be a good thing to add to show career progression and why he was chosen to move to the Packers beat. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Could include that he also had a column while he was a journalist. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Added. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Should be 2007. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

A really interesting read. Only the third, 4th and last bullet points are required for promotion, the rest are just suggestions. I would be WP:BOLD and do them myself, but really I should be in bed. Will place on hold pending those minor adjustments. SSSB (talk) 22:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you SSSB! All comments addressed or responded to. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Excellent. Congratulations on good article number 30. SSSB (talk) 22:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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