Talk:Cocaine Bear

Cocaine Bear Book

Someone should make an article for the Cocaine Bear book published by G.A.Girth. 199.7.159.43 (talk) 00:22, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Cocaine Bear movie

This article is technically about the movie, and not about Cocaine Bear. The movie should have a separate article so that the story of Cocaine Bear, and its appearance in popular culture, can have its own page. Does anyone know how to do this? Swavmphone (talk) 13:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks to @Di (they-them): Cocaine Bear (bear) now exists. Arlo James Barnes 06:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Why isn't Kristofer Hivju listed in the cast? If he's big enough for all seasons of Game of Thrones, surely he should be recognised enough to be mentioned in this "little" movie. 2001:4649:A1FA:0:EB9D:977C:7ACE:64F1 (talk) 09:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

parentheticals

Now that there are separate articles for the bear and movie, Wikipedia should decide how they should be named following the advice of WP:PRECISE. Options include:

• Cocaine Bear = movie, Cocaine Bear (bear) = bear -- current state
• Cocaine Bear (film) = movie, Cocaine Bear or cocaine bear = bear -- based on which came first
• Cocaine Bear = movie, cocaine bear = bear -- relies on casing

What say y'all? Arlo James Barnes 06:54, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I prefer the second option, although it may be a hassle to fix all the links to the film that would then link to the bear page. Di (they-them) (talk) 08:07, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

The first option is correct since Cocaine Bear (the film) is considered the main topic per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, based on the articles traffic. vistadan 13:40, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

I believe the second option is preferable. Article traffic is not the only criteria, nor should it be, as naturally, the article that has the title without the parentheses is going to automatically draw the most traffic. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Wes sideman (talk) 14:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

• Comment with additional option: I think a disambig page (with both cases) that has links to both articles is the best option of all. Wes sideman (talk) 14:44, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

  All may comment here. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Using lowercase for the name of the bear would be incorrect. It's a nickname and therefore a proper noun. I believe the film should remain the primary topic. MClay1 (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

If the bear was first, shouldn’t we just have the actual bear page just “Coaine Bear” and the movie “Cocaine bear (film) ? Forged Gentleman (talk) 03:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Genre

Just about every source on gerne agrees that this film is a comedy, so that shouldn't be up for debate. Most sources either say comedy horror or comedy thriller. Extremely few sources call an action comedy. There might be enough sources to categorize it as an action comedy, but definitely not enough to call it that in the lead. Since comedy is consistent, there's nothing wrong with just using comedy or dark comedy in the lead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

It's been fixed before you finally made this post. Thanks. Mike Allen 19:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@User:MikeAllen It has not been fixed as it says action in the lead which is absolutely not a widely used genre for this film in sources at all. It is also extremely hypocritical for you to complain about people not using the talk page when you aren't either. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:10, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

You went through and made the change by deleting it and the source. I'm the one that added the source there to prevent these silly wars. Here's the "action film" sources: Entertainment Weekly- "Everything you need to know about the real story behind Elizabeth Banks's wild upcoming action-comedy", Variety- "The dark, R-rated action-comedy", Common Sense Media "Parents need to know that Cocaine Bear is an action/comedy movie based on a real 1985 event in which a black bear ingested a duffle bag full of cocaine", GQ- "so resetting with an irreverent, low stakes action comedy like Cocaine Bear is a logical choice", and also the BBFC source that you removed. I settled with dark comedy action, what more do you want? How can you say "action" can not be part of it? Mike Allen 19:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

How can you say horror isn't part of it? the horror comedy asks a simple question the upcoming horror-comedy Cocaine Bear the Cocaine-Driven Horror Comedy Madness the horror comedy is directed by Elizabeth Banks A new horror-comedy: called "Cocaine Bear" JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

So you want it to be dark comedy horror action film? We just need the primary genre. Is it horror-comedy or action-comedy? Because at this point we are grasping at straws. I don't feel readers will be misled either way. Mike Allen 19:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

I want horror comedy, but I'd be fine with just saying with picking neither and just saying dark comedy. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Just as a heads up, the sources above are talking about a film they haven't seen yet. The EW article is from November 2022, the Variety source is prior to the films release. I do not really believe in any source addressing a genre unless you can be sure they've seen the film. Otherwise, they are just assuming. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:53, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Positive reviews?

The last sentence in the lead, "It received positive reviews from critics," has no references and directly contradicts everything in the Reception section. I'm removing it. If anyone has positive reviews to refer to and wants to put them in Reception, go for it. Dgndenver (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Do we really know the bear's gender?

I haven't seen the movie yet and all but are u sure the bear is a female? In the official article about the bear it doesn't state the bear's gender. HiGuys69420 (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Probably should be removed. Even if true, is it crucial to know that? Mike Allen 17:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

its not crucial so i referred the bear as "it" a gender neutral pronoun HiGuys69420 (talk) 18:38, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

The bear turns out to be a mother protecting her cubs, so it's fairly important (but I'd leave out the bit where the bear smashes her genitals into a character's face). Bkatcher (talk) 17:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

ok fair enough HiGuys69420 (talk) 20:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Cocaine Bear

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Cocaine Bear's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "opening":

• From The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part: D'Alessandro, Anthony (February 10, 2018). "'Lego Movie 2' Comes Apart With $34M+ Opening; 'What Men Want' Solid With $18M+ In Another Blasé B.O. Weekend". Deadline Hollywood. Archived from the original on February 18, 2019. Retrieved February 10, 2019.
• From Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse: D'Alessandro, Anthony (December 16, 2018). "'Spider-Verse' Raises $35M+ As 'The Mule' Kicks Up $17M+ In Pre-Christmas Period, But 'Mortal Engines' Breaks Down With $7M+". Deadline Hollywood. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 16, 2018.
• From Scream (2022 film): D'Alessandro, Anthony (January 16, 2022). "Scream Hitting Loud Pitch With $36M 4-Day, Spider-Man: No Way Home Surging Past Black Panther – Sunday AM Update". Deadline Hollywood. Archived from the original on January 16, 2022. Retrieved January 16, 2022.
• From Jesus Revolution: D'Alessandro, Anthony (February 25, 2023). "'Quantumania' Worst Drop For A Marvel Movie, 'Cocaine Bear' Very High On $21M & 'Jesus Revolution' Praises $14M+ – Saturday Box Office". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved February 25, 2023.
• From Pitch Perfect 3: Anthony D'Alessandro (December 24, 2017). "Last Jedi' Lords Over Christmas Weekend B.O. With $100M+ As 'Jumanji' Roars $65M+ & 'Pitch Perfect 3' Sings $27M". Deadline.com. Archived from the original on February 23, 2018. Retrieved December 24, 2017.
• From Charlie's Angels (2019 film): D'Alessandro, Anthony (November 16, 2019). "'Ford v Ferrari' Cruising To $28M+, 'Charlie's Angels' Kicked Out Of Heaven With $10M+ Start". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved November 16, 2019.
• From The Lego Ninjago Movie: D'Alessandro, Anthony (September 23, 2017). "'Kingsman: The Golden Circle' Ropes $38M+; 'Ninjago' Dulls Sword To $21M; 'Friend Request' A Loner With $1.8M". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved September 23, 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 18:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Cocaine Bear

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Cocaine Bear's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "BOM":

• From The Lego Batman Movie: "The Lego Batman Movie (2017)". Box Office Mojo. Archived from the original on February 16, 2017. Retrieved September 24, 2017.
• From Charlie's Angels (2019 film): "Charlie's Angels (2019)". Box Office Mojo. IMDb. Retrieved March 26, 2020.
• From The Lego Ninjago Movie: "The Lego Ninjago Movie (2017)". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved December 3, 2017.
• From Brigsby Bear: "Brigsby Bear". Box Office Mojo. IMDb. Archived from the original on May 6, 2021. Retrieved May 6, 2021.
• From Pitch Perfect 3: "Pitch Perfect 3 (2017)". Box Office Mojo. Archived from the original on July 20, 2018. Retrieved October 27, 2018.
• From 21 Jump Street (film): "21 Jump Street (2012)". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved October 23, 2012.
• From 22 Jump Street: "22 Jump Street (2014)". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved November 20, 2014.
• From The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part: "The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part". Box Office Mojo. IMDb. Archived from the original on June 20, 2021. Retrieved June 20, 2021.
• From Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania". Box Office Mojo. IMDb. Retrieved February 26, 2023.
• From Pitch Perfect 2: "Pitch Perfect 2 (2015)". Box Office Mojo. Archived from the original on December 8, 2015. Retrieved December 14, 2015.
• From Movie 43: "Movie 43 (2013)". Box Office Mojo. Internet Movie Database. Retrieved January 5, 2014.
• From Scream (2022 film): "Scream". Box Office Mojo. IMDb. Retrieved March 27, 2022.
• From Walk of Shame (film): "Walk of Shame (2014)". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved December 7, 2020.
• From Universal Pictures: "Universal All Time Box Office Results". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved April 9, 2017.

Reference named "NUM":

• From The Lego Ninjago Movie: "The Lego Ninjago Movie (2017) - Financial Information". The Numbers. Retrieved 3 April 2021.
• From Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania". The Numbers. Nash Information Services, LLC. Retrieved February 26, 2023.
• From Charlie's Angels (2019 film): "Charlie's Angels (2019)". The Numbers. Retrieved January 30, 2023.
• From Extreme Movie: "Extreme Movie (2008)". The Numbers. Retrieved May 7, 2018.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2023

The bear only ate about 3-4 grams of cocaine as found in a blood test. Whoever wrote this should have looked up the facts 2601:18C:8281:CDF0:8890:D64B:C896:DE01 (talk) 02:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tollens (talk) 04:08, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

And when you're providing those reliable sources, keep in mind that the article you're commenting on is about the movie, not the actual bear. Those sources you provide would have to be about the consumption of the bear in the movie, not the bear that was running around. Dgndenver (talk) 12:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Add Allan Henry to cast list/production sections?

Director Elizabeth Banks has repeatedly named in interviews that New Zealand mo-cap performer Allan Henry is the actor primarily responsible for portraying the titular bear, yet there's no mention of him anywhere in this article? I have added some sources below, though I am unsure as to how close they are to being certified sources by your standards. I would do it myself but Wikipedia isn't exactly something I'm skilled at contending with and thus I'm unsure how to properly add citations, hyperlinks, etc, and would rather they be done by someone who knows what they're doing.

https://www.maifm.co.nz/home/shows/mai-morning-crew/2023/03/kiwi-actor-allan-henry-tells-mmc-how-he-prepared-to-play-the-high-bear-in-cocaine-bear0.html

https://thespinoff.co.nz/pop-culture/04-03-2023/proud-the-cocaine-bear-is-a-new-zealander

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/cocaine-bear-how-allan-henry-studied-nature-to-perfect-his-performance-101677602062098.html

https://www.indiewire.com/2023/02/cocaine-bear-vfx-for-the-bear-1234812609/

https://www.slashfilm.com/1209222/meet-the-man-behind-the-bear-in-elizabeth-banks-cocaine-bear-exclusive-interview/ 203.114.152.250 (talk) 10:21, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you bringing this up. Some of these sources are reliable and contain relevant material. Henry is credited as "Bear Performer", so I'll add a little paragraph about his role in the "Cast" section. Mooonswimmer 15:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good. Mike Allen 16:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2023

Under Release heading: Cocaine Bear is currently streaming on Comcast NBCuniversal streaming app Peacock 67.6.30.201 (talk) 18:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:06, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Page deletion

There is already a live article for this film here. I would like this deleted, please. 2607:FEA8:761B:C900:4499:CBD:3C16:D856 (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

What? Mike Allen 17:40, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

There is already a live article. The film was already released. 2607:FEA8:761B:C900:7DF5:2CCD:1644:7850 (talk) 22:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Please, this has to be deleted because Cocaine Bear was already released. 99.209.40.250 (talk) 13:50, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking. You're linking to this article. Bkatcher (talk) 13:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@Bkatcher I think the anonymous users with IP addresses meant User:Bruno Rene Vargas/Cocaine Bear should be deleted. The Media Expert (talk) 00:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

I meant to say User:Bruno Rene Vargas/Cocaine Bear (film). The Media Expert (talk) 00:52, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's a user page, so it doesn't really matter. Bkatcher (talk) 02:18, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2023

Pete Davidson 2603:6011:4C03:81E1:243C:4454:A10A:9B96 (talk) 15:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 15:46, 27 August 2023 (UTC)