Talk:Coir

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How does the acidity of Coir compare with peat? I am interested in using it as worm bedding for vermicomposting. I know peat is pretty acidic... anyone know?

Less acidic than peat. Approximately neutral pH, without any need for lime or other bases. 204.69.139.16 (talk) 22:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Got to answer 188.236.193.83 (talk) 14:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

60%+36%=90% for world production? wking, June 3, 2008.

Actually, the numbers are a bit different, since it splits brown and white. Here is the quote:

India, mainly in Pollachi and the coastal region of Kerala State, produces 60% of the total world supply of white coir fibre. Sri Lanka produces 36% of the total brown fibre output. Over 50% of the coir fibre produced annually throughout the world is consumed in the countries of origin, mainly India. Together, India and Sri Lanka produce 90% of the coir produced every year.

Still, the numbers seem suspect. I assume, if a number is listed, it is the largest percentage by a single producer. If we try to figure out relative proportions, even with absurd assumptions (India and Sri Lanka producing 100% of brown, India producing 35% of white) to get the most even percentage of brown and white, for the two countries to account for 90% of world production, given those numbers, white fibers must account for only 40% of all production, and that is using absolutely absurd numbers, it gets worse with more realistic assumptions. Given that it seems unlikely the rest of the world produces all white, with no brown, I am guessing the percentage of brown produced by India and Sri Lanka is less than 100%

Also, if India and Sri Lank produce 90% of fibers, and over 50% is consumed where produced, that would mean India and Sir Lanka consume over 45% of world output, which sounds a bit high, though possible.

However, I am inclined to think the 90% number is either inaccurate, or generated using a completely different set of production figures (weight vs value? different year?) than the other figures. 2601:140:C000:25C6:A195:AFFF:90A1:6CA2 (talk) 13:00, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Actually given my last comment (the one above this), I have another question. When the figures say "60% of world production" or "90% of world production", are they calculating by weight, by volume, by market value, or what measure? Presumably, like all fibers, there are various grades of coir, and, even if not, the production costs in various places would differ giving different market prices, meaning price would probably produce different results from weight or volume. In fact, I would assume the weight and volume would differ for white versus brown, and for differing lots of each depending upon how it is treated, how well it is cleaned of other organic matter, etc. So, it would be useful to know what measure is used, as well as if each of those figures use the same measurement. 2601:140:C000:25C6:A195:AFFF:90A1:6CA2 (talk) 13:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Pronunciation

How is this word pronounced? -68.191.214.241 (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC) who made it: dr ggoikm tiolian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.214.177 (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Kerala Fibre section appears to be attempted advertising

This whole section, "Kerala Fibre", appears to be attempted advertising. A Google search for "Kerala Fibre" shows the same section text, including the two dots, occurs verbatim on several other sites, e.g. http://www.worldcybergamesireland.com/phpBB3/?q=coir+fibre+products, http://www.answers.com/topic/coir, http://yomi.mobi/egate/Coir/a, http://sthweb.bu.edu/index.php?option=com_awiki&view=mediawiki&article=Coir&Itemid=352, and many more. But "Kerala Fibre" does not appear to have their own website. Can anyone shed any light on this? It's been here since 18 September 2009, with plenty of other edits to the page since then, but no one has removed the section yet. Thoughts? -- Bricaniwi (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

about coir industry

show some industry pictures in tamilnadu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.182.126 (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Heavily Copied

This article seems to be heavily copied from http://www.madehow.com/Volume-6/Coir.html At times it is word for word the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.78.27 (talk) 07:39, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

COIR

Hi, I never use the "TALK" facility and I hope I am not offending anyone.

The comments about "COIR" do not sound right to me and I am not quite sure that everything in this article is correct.

Coir is a man made product obtained from grinding the hard coconut shell, AFTER the external coconut fibre has been removed. The product is coarse grained, roughly the size of normal sugar, and contains NO fibre. It is sold a Coir or Coco.

Good quality Coir does not contain dust, and It is not what the authors call "Peat". Anyway, "Peat" is something else, a "Moss" related naturally occurring plant product.

The authors fail to explain the original meaning of the word. Does the word "Coir" translate to "Fibre" or simply means a "Coconut product", or even just "Coconut". 

The coconut products are: Starting from the outside:

                                        Coconut Husks (used in Agriculture: Sold as COCONUT HUSKS or COCONUT CHIPS)
                                        Coconut Fibre (has many uses, including agriculture: Sold as COCONUT FIBRE)
                                        Coconut Coir (or Coco), (coarse grained coconut shell, sieved for uniformity: Sold as COCONUT COIR or COCO)
                                        Coconut Flesh (we eat)
                                        Coconut Juice (we drink)

Because too many people use or even copy the wiki text, everything is getting a bit out of control. There are too many meanings, with every producer of agricultural products using his/her own interpretation.

In many cases, dealers use both options: For example: Name: Coir Basket Round 250mm; Description: Coconut fibre basket round large

I use for over 8 years coir produced in Europe (Holland, Germany, UK), USA and Thailand. The coir I buy, is FIBRE FREE.

The use of (Fibre Free) COIR in orchid growing is increasing very rapidly. I hope somebody will investigate and correct this.

regards

Dr. George Tsambourakis (as I am not registered it is fair to give my eMail address: george@orchids-world.com)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.168.127.246 (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Seriously Needs Citations

At a brief (I have to admit) overview of this article it SERIOUSLY needs citations. Almost all of this article is without it. It either needs to be rewritten or added multiple citations. Can a regular (or someone commited) editor or the creator of this article maybe help? Imurmate I'ma editor2022 (talk) 02:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Botany

Coir 2409:4063:6E12:DE56:0:0:5B89:EE03 (talk) 01:29, 23 April 2022 (UTC)