Talk:ColdHubs

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Hi User:CNMall41 I've removed links and the associated tag. Regarding the "advert" tag, I've really struggled to write about solar energy work in a way that doesn't sounds positive, also I needed to include the awards to establish notability. I would be very happy if you could suggest edits, guidance or make edits to get this where you want it to be. CT55555 (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the discussion. Notability does not come from awards necessarily. For companies, it comes from significant coverage in reliable sources which should meet WP:ORGCRIT. Using awards would be inherent notability. Simply winning awards would not making something notable. With that aside, I believe the company is notable which is why I moved it from AfC. However, including things like brand reputation ("In 2020, ColdHubs stored 40,000 tons of food....") makes it read more like a brochure for the company than anything a person would want to read about it on Wikipedia. I guess ask yourself what a normal reader would want to know and not what the company would want to say about itself.--CNMall41 (talk) 20:15, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I used the IBM page as my cue for the "reputation" things. I'm very happy for you to edit out what ever you want, I tend to write about non profits, rather than companies, and so I've not ran into this issue before, so I'll try to address this, but would be very happy for you to ruthlessly edit out what ever you think is superfluous and I'll use that as a lesson for future articles. Of course, it's not your job to mentor me, so no worries if you don't want to. CT55555 (talk) 20:22, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

It is an interesting concept. I may try my hand at it in a few days or so. I believe there is plenty of coverage to create a great article, just needs to be NPOV, etc. Cheers! --CNMall41 (talk) 20:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I've removed all citations from the lede and cut them down in other parts. I've removed the "reputation" section. I've moved the awards section to the end. Was there any awards that you felt should be deleted? I feel confident to remove the overlinked tag, but seek your consensus on the "advert" tag. CT55555 (talk) 22:57, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You would need consensus but it still reads like an advert to me. First, why use two references after sentences? That still appears to me as overlinking. Talking about cost wouldn't be something readers of an encyclopedia care about unless it is something significantly talked about in the media. I hate to pose the questions but do you have any connection to this company or any other draft you have submitted on Wikipedia? --CNMall41 (talk) 03:55, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I used two just to be clear it was notable, I find the AfD process to be all about proving notability. I don't have any COI or connections to any other articles I've submitted. I tend to write about organizations that do good, very rarely companies and it seems I'm going a bad job of writing about this company. I don't really care deeply about this article, happy for any edits you propose. CT55555 (talk) 04:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I hated to ask such a question but the editing style just looks like someone wanting to promote the company. Sorry I posed it but thanks for setting my mind at ease. If you'd like, as I stated above, I can take a stab at it when I get time in the next week. I am by no means an expert on the Wikipedia style but I can get you much closer than where it is now. Possibly even have another editor come in and review for feedback as well. Will that work?--CNMall41 (talk) 04:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

"The three-metre-square units can each hold three tons of food...." - Neither reference cited says this. Can you point out the reference that does?--CNMall41 (talk) 04:52, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Originally that sentence had three citations, yesterday I deleted some. I may have tipped it from over cited to under cited.

1. "10-foot-square" (I converted to 3 metres) https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/23/africa/coldhubs-nigeria-food-supply-chain-hnk-spc-intl/index.html Also mentioned here (caption to second image https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/29/business/gallery/waste-management-startups-spc-intl-hnk/index.html)
2. "Each cold room has a capacity of storing three tonnes of food" https://www.africa.com/cool-scheme-to-reduce-food-waste-in-nigeria/ CT55555 (talk) 15:00, 11 March 2022 (UTC)