Talk:Compton, California/Archive 1
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Compton/Woodley Airport
I have restored the paragraph about Compton/Woodley Airport. Frankly I can't understand why it was removed. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 6 July 2005 15:59 (UTC)
The mysterious capital "F"
In the second sentence, someone keeps changing the "f" in "formerly" to a capital "F," though it is not the beginning of a sentence. The "also" at the beginning of the same sentence seems unnecessary, though it keeps re-appearing as well. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:36, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Bug 1150 (maybe): Problems with editing
As some of you may have noticed, there are strange things going on with this article. If you make more than one edit within a few minutes' time it seems to cache a previous version of the article, so along with your own edit it includes an earlier edit by some other editor. I think this may be related to Bug 1150, in which case another symptom is this page disappearing from your watchlist and/or edits not showing up in the page history.
If you make multiple edits, double-check what is in the edit window and make sure whether you are editing the most recent version of the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. I think this bug could explain the problems I described above on this talk page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
transportation
a lot of the transportation info was mysteriously deleted so i reinserted it. please let me know if it was intentionally deleted for any reason. thanks --SameerKhan 09:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Check the previous section. This has happened to me, too, and I think it's related to a bug. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
More on the Bushes
Recently an anonymous editor removed all the references to George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush having lived in Compton. However, it is verifiable that they lived there, albeit briefly: During this period, Bush and his family moved several times, living successively in Odessa, Texas; Ventura, Bakersfield, and Compton, California; and Midland, Texas. [1] Is there anyone here who has a specific objection to mentioning the Bushes in the list of famous people from Compton, noting their brief residence there in the 1940s and 1950s? --Metropolitan90 07:49, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- No, I have no objections to you doing it and I think it's very relevant, considering they are some of the most well known and famous family in the world. The anonymous user was possibly anti-bush or had some POV issue. Additionally no explanation was provided. --Bigj
- If there aren't any reasonable objections, I'm going to revert the article back to Metropolitan90's changes to reflect the Bushs' presence in Compton, though I'm having some trouble with loading the history page. Bigj 01:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- No, I have no objections to you doing it and I think it's very relevant, considering they are some of the most well known and famous family in the world. The anonymous user was possibly anti-bush or had some POV issue. Additionally no explanation was provided. --Bigj
- See my comments in the previous section. I've got this article on my Watchlist so I try to help out with this whenever I notice it. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 03:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Needs citation
I have removed the following text from the article. Please cite a reference before restoring it:
- ""Struggling rappers and Hip-Hop artists are widely known to be involved in 89% of crime in Compton. Most notoriously, Sam "I'm So Hood" Smith, rapper from "the block", is known for his achievements in crime. There are stories about him taking out over 50 people in a chinese restaurant on Christmas. There were three survivors."
Cleanup
This artcile is in bad shape. Can someone please clean it up? In particular, the parts about gang violence. Also no coherent order?? I don't have time right now but may come back... 88.110.36.228 17:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
1. Removed text:
The most well-known Latino gangs for example are the Compton Varrio Tortilla Flats, Compton Varrio 70's, Compton Varrio Largo 36, and the Compton Varrio Alondra. The most infamous and well-known gangs, however, are the African American gangs, the Crips and the Bloods. Some of the most well-known Crips and Bloods gangs are Fruit Town Piru (Blood), Westside Piru (Blood), Campenella Park Piru (Blood), MOB Piru (Blood), Tree Top Piru (Blood), Nutty Blocc (Crip), Southside (Crip), Santana Blocc (Crip), Tragniew Park (Crip), Palmer Blocc (Crip), Duccy Hood (Crip) and Kelly Park (Crip).
2. Moved gang activity from lead paragraph to crime section Postoak 07:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
3. Added inline references, existing references were not noted in the article, perhaps the original editor can fix this? Postoak 08:30, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
4. Resequenced paragraphs in Crime section of article Postoak 08:57, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
5. Format notes and further reading sections Postoak 18:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
6. Add infobox and moved existing map to it. Postoak 19:54, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
7. Moved notable and native residents to subpage Postoak 01:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
gangsterism
I removed a randomly placed section on the dangerousness of Compton and its gangsterism, not becuase this isn't true, but because it was POV and read like a child wrote it. Stardog101 19:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)stardog101
Crime
Thanks to whoever sorted the crime section and added the game statemnet source. 80.43.49.251 21:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Postoak 21:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Citation request
I've requested a souce for the statement below. My request continues to be removed which is becoming disruptive:
The most recent rapper from Compton to popularize the city's gang culture is The Game, with his albums The Documentary (2005) and Doctor's Advocate (2006).
An anonymous editor refuses to provide a source and states that this is common knowlege and "if you listen to the music" then you will know this is a fact. This is not a verifiable source. I'm not removing the statement, only requesting a source that documents the statement. If this statement is supposedly common knowledge, then a source should be relatively easy to obtain. Thanks, Postoak 22:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am not completely sure what you are asking. I am going to assume that you are asking the editor to cite that he popularized the gang culture. I am a hip hop fan, and I don't really know what that editor is talking about, however, The Documentary, Doctor's Advocate, and The Game have brought more attention to West Coast hip hop (especially The Documentary, it is the first multi-platinum West Coast album since Dr. Dre's 2001 album, which was released in 1999). So he did bring more attention to the West Coast (and Compton I guess) since he had some notable commercial success recently (he is also involved in a well publicized feud with 50 Cent). In both The Documentary, and Doctor's Advocate, he references Compton's gang life. In Doctor's Advocate he even has a track called "Compton". Hope that helps. --- 72.142.212.28 18:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I was asking for a verifiable source to back up the claim according to WP:VERIFY. Anyway, this was resolved several months ago. Thanks, Postoak 18:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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SHANNNENNNNNNNN WAS HURRRR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.238.166 (talk) 20:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
oak tree
The "oak tree" that marks the northern boundry of the old rancho appears, based on a site check of this morning, to be a sycamore. In fact, the area seems to have many sycamores, but few (if any) oaks. 76.194.230.63 (talk) 03:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Can you take a picture of it? That would be helpful and would settle the matter. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 04:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Pet stores?
I'm having trouble figuring out what pet stores have to do with the city of Compton. This "see also" was added on the 24th (here's where it appeared) and seems to be completely irrelevant. I've gone ahead and removed it, but I'm curious as to its origin. FuzzyPlushroom (talk) 03:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Long Newsweek article on Compton
[2] ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
REDUNDANCY
The article says "Many think compton is mostly blacks but it actually has more hispanics" at least 100 times. Someone edit that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordsword (talk • contribs)
- The 2008 population estimates for Compton, Cal. shown 60 percent Latino (any race), 30 to 35 percent black and 10 to 15 percent white, 8 percent American Indian (mostly Latino or Central American), 5 percent Asian (Filipino and Korean from Latin America) and 2.5 percent other (Pacific Islander). Latinos are now the majority, twice the number of African American and what is this "said 100 times"? In certain neighborhoods of Compton notably in the east towards the I-710 facing Long Beach, there are 99% black and 99% Latino residential areas. Gang wars built on racism has been in the news lately, when Latino and black-American gangs feud over who runs the turf, once a battleground between Blods and Crips, rival Chicano and/or Central American, and even a few white racist or black nationalist gangs. More of a middle-class black and working-class Latino presence can be in the Central city, but mostly in Willowbrook are middle-class, although Compton is fighting socioeconomic disparity now in a troubled economy that everyone's facing anyway. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Crime's place in Article
Does 'Crime' need to supersede Government & Infrastructure? It seems a bit unfair and to be quite honest unnecessary. 86.45.125.232 (talk) 22:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Googling "compton wiki"
Although the link in google leads to this page, the caption in google (that allows you to preview the text on the page before clicking) refers to "Compton is a n****r city in southern Los Angeles County, California, United States, south-southeast of downtown Los Angeles. The city was incorporated in ..."
i hope this is changed due to the obviously inappropriate language, though I'm not sure if this can be changed through wikipedia or by contacting google itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.67.71.31 (talk) 03:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Transportation NPOV
"within easy reach of" should be replaced with "near". "within easy reach of" reads like a brochure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Strickjh2005 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Mexican Drug Cartels
Edited: "...and Mexican gangs that are allied with the powerful Mexican drug cartels.," to "...and Mexican gangs that are allied with the powerful Mexican Mafia." All Mexican American Compton gangs are allied directly with the Mexican Mafia, not Mexican drug cartels. Although, some might be connected to drug cartels, the connection would be via the Mexican Mafia anyways. 24.181.226.51 (talk) 03:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Famous People
I just added three famous people from Compton. I don't understand why they were deleted. Are two Presidents of the United States and a former NFL commissioner not famous? I was going to add Kevin Costner, but could not confirm that he lived in Compton and also Eazy-E lived in the city of Compton, which he alos made a song named "Straight Outta Compton" it falls under Gangsta Rap. -- Igbo (talk) 4:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sounds like Bug 1150 again, see my previous comments. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've added the names again. Hopefully it works this time.--Igbo 20:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think it is a bug. Someone is intentionally deleting some of the names. --Igbo 20:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's really hard to spot. This edit makes it appear as though you re-added George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush to the list, though I am certain you did not (at least not intentionally - it has something to do with an old, cached version being uploaded by mistake). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- No, I did add those names again. This is the third time that they have been deleted. Apparently someone has a big issue about the Bush family being identified with Compton. They didn't delete the other name I added at the same time. Nor was Pete Rozelle deleted (although he was the FIRST time he was added). Robin Bush, W's oldest sister was BORN in Compton. What more does one need? --Igbo 07:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well sorry, I was completely confused. You can assume that many people, including myself, know nothing of the Bushes living in Compton (to the degree that I, for one, completely misread one of your comments). Note that neither of the two articles, nor Robin Bush, make any mention of it whatsoever. , you might want to indicate the years that they lived in Compton; I think most people see these lists and assume it indicates that the person was born there (though you could indicate that specifically where Robin is concerned). However, as this is something that many people don't know about, it would be to everyone's benefit if you cited a source of the info. Again, sorry for the confusion. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:49, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- No, I did add those names again. This is the third time that they have been deleted. Apparently someone has a big issue about the Bush family being identified with Compton. They didn't delete the other name I added at the same time. Nor was Pete Rozelle deleted (although he was the FIRST time he was added). Robin Bush, W's oldest sister was BORN in Compton. What more does one need? --Igbo 07:38, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- It's really hard to spot. This edit makes it appear as though you re-added George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush to the list, though I am certain you did not (at least not intentionally - it has something to do with an old, cached version being uploaded by mistake). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 06:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think it is a bug. Someone is intentionally deleting some of the names. --Igbo 20:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've added the names again. Hopefully it works this time.--Igbo 20:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
- First of all, one need only access the official Compton website for information about the Bush family living there. Specifically, you can visit their City Achiever's page.
As far as Robin Bush being born in Compton, there's a biographical source on the U.S. Presidents which includes information on their respective siblings (I'll have to look up the exact source again). The California birth index lists a Pauline Pierce Bush (as opposed to Pauline Robinson Bush) born on December 20, 1949 in Los Angeles County (where Compton is located). Her mother's maiden name is also listed as Pierce (which of course is Barbara Bush's maiden name). Also, having known some people who worked for the City of Compton, I've been told that there was a proposal to place a plaque or some sort of monument at the Bush homestead (I believe it was on Santa Fe Avenue), but it was voted down.
Obviously, the family did not live in Compton a long time because George W. Bush was born in New England and the remaining siblings were born in Texas. However, the fact that they lived there is significant, because it gives you a sense of how the city has evolved over the years. In other words, the Compton of 1949 was very different from the Compton of today. Around the time of Robin's birth, Compton was basically a white working class suburb. Segregation had just been struck down by the California Supreme Court and since Compton was in close proximity to the Watts area of Los Angeles (where most blacks lived at the time), it was only natural that it was among the first places that blacks moved. In fact, Yvonne Arceneaux, who currently serves on the Compton City Council moved to Compton in 1949.
Also, the disproportionate number of rappers listed as "Famous People From Compton" in the article gives a rather distorted view of the people who lived there. I have nothing against rap, but to suggest that Compton has only produced rap artists (and the occassional athlete) is like saying that Iowa only produces corn farmers. As a result, I've tried to add a few others that were achievers in other fields (like the Bush family, some have been added more than once). For example, Frank K. Wheaton, a sports agent and personal manager who has represented such diverse clients as Laker great James Worthy, Marla Gibbs, Essie Mae Williams (Strom Thurman's daughter) and has produced special events with Milton Berle and Michael Jordan, has spent a good part of his life in and around Compton. If you visit Compton's website, you'll also see some of these same people listed.
To sum it all up, let's not stereotype Compton. Like many communities, it has it's share of problems, but it is also a city with a rich and diverse history.
--Igbo 08:23, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
This isn't the source I was referring to, but mention of the Bush family in Compton can be found in American First Ladies: Their Lives and Their Legacy, edited by Lewis L. Gould (New York & London: Garland Publishing, 1996).
--Igbo 19:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for your explanation and for your effort! -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:46, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, the Bush's have been deleted once again despite two different sources that confirmed that they lived in Compton. However, these sources were not deleted. The Los Angeles Times source from 1992, which talks about then-Mayor Walter R. Tucker III's proposal to make the former Bush residence a city landmark confirmed that the family lived in an apartment at 624 South Santa Fe Avenue.
I give up. --Igbo 07:06, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- I've just re-added them, FWIW. I did include a note that they were former residents duirng the '40s and '50s. Unless someone can convince me that they are not notable residents then I will continue to revert further deletions, if/when I see them. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:53, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks--Igbo 02:32, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- I have also added a citation to the George Bush Presidential Library web site which shows a photo of George W. and Robin Bush in Compton in 1949. I hadn't known before that the Bushes lived in Compton (albeit briefly) but it certainly seems worthy of inclusion in this article. --Metropolitan90 05:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks--Igbo 02:32, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Changed the title from "Famous People from Compton, California" to "Famous Natives and Notable Residents", as not all the people listed are actually from Compton, but merely lived there for a period of time. --204.152.176.70 17:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
the rapper the game raised in compton! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.170.64 (talk) 14:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Motto
Motto: We have $$$$
Is this really true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.191.244.104 (talk) 18:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Cites for more info
Demographics
With due respect to your magnificent education, if you add up ANY city's statistical racial breakdown it will always not add up to 100%, if it does, the likelihood is someone is manipulating the stats. Because many people, especially hispanics, self identify as both hispanic and white. Therefore, the figures will almost always be 10-20% over a total of 100%. I cannot tell you how many articles where this has been questioned. :-) Namaste...DocOfSoc (talk) 10:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Protected
With the kind of crap being posted lately I believe this article should be at least semi- protected. 23:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Confusing Sentence
"In 2005 Compton had at least 68 gun related murders, which is more than other North American cities had."
What is this sentence supposed to mean? what exactly does "more than other north american cities had" mean exactly? No other city in north american had more than 68 gun related deaths? I find that hard to believe. (Brodey)
- Radio talk pundit Phil Hendrie said in late 2008 on Compton is actually among the top 10 safest suburbs of US any metro area. He compared murder statustics of New York in the late 70s (he stated 2,500 in 1980), Los Angeles in the mid 80s (over 2,000 in 1984) and Detroit in 1991 (Detroit's worst year in crime) to find each had over 1,000 homicides, almost all gang-related, this is from higher populations and the Crack drug pandemic began in 1975, peaked in 1985 and seized in 1995. But then came the changes in living standards by gentrification, a decline in family illegitimacy, and that legal and illegal immigrants aren't criminals nor welfare-cheats and actually want to contribute in American society. Hendrie points out his latest drives towards Compton and south L.A. he finds more businesses like shopping centers, college education annexes and recreation amentities are bountiful than it was 15 to 20 years before. Hendrie went on to compare higher crime stats. are in places not stereotypically poor black urban areas and farther away from L.A. in places like Riverside, San Bernardino, the Central valley (Fresno) and mostly the Southern states. +71.102.2.206 (talk) 20:15, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Phil Hendrie is a reliable source on his own, but if we can find one that describes this trend then that'd be wortwhile to add to the article. Will Beback talk 20:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Opinion: The entire article is pretty disjointed. And Phil Hendrie makes his living making up stories and fooling radio listeners into calling in to feed the flames. Calling him a "realiable source on his own" is quite a stretch. But you've done a good job with your additions. I personally don't know where the hell to begin. I've spent a good deal of time in Compton and wanted to contribute, but I GIVE UP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blondesareeasy (talk • contribs) 04:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Links
Please do not try to start an edit war. The book link leads to an info page on wiki, which is not helpful. The amazon page leads to the actual book. Why do you have a problem with the two links that compliment each other? With the template just posted, I have been checking links. Please respond here. DocOfSoc (talk) 22:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
An ISBN registration, even one corresponding to a book page on a major book distributor database is not definite proof that such a book actually exists. A title may have been cancelled or postponed after the ISBN was assigned. Both ISBN and other registration have been abused in attempted hoaxes on Wikipedia in the past. So check to see if the book exists or not.
- You have not proved the book exists. Adding Amazon or Powell or whatever actually sources the book. DocOfSoc (talk) 22:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I appreciate that you are trying to improve verifiability but links to Amazon are not a good approach. It could easily get removed as spam, even though that that is clearly not your intention. I think maybe one of the 'bots searches for Amazon links. I am sure that something better can be found. Something like a third party review, a scholarly citation or a major library catalogue listing (provided it confirms that they actually do have a copy on their shelves) would be much better.
- Anyway, the ISBN book links are not as useless as they seem at first glance as they do serve as a reasonable starting point for searching some major world library catalogues. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- TY for taking my comments in the spirit intended. I get very frustrated with the ISBN link. I have looked for a third party link without success so far. I really like Powell's Bookstore as a link. What do you think of that and I will forgo Amazon forever ;-) I like your talk page. Namaste...DocOfSoc (talk) 00:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason this classic album is not alluded to somewhere in the article? Or has no one got around to adding it yet? I think this album is the first thing many people think of when they hear the word "Compton."--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 02:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Be bold. Add it yourself. ;) -Will Beback · † · 04:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, but first I wanted to check if I was getting in the middle of some previous edit war--whether to include it or not to include it.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 04:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- The Compton article seems to attract vandalism, not edit wars. The album definately needs to be mentioned in the article, so go ahead and add it. BlankVerse 12:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Since no-one else didi I added this section off the article.88.107.7.241 21:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
- This album is mentioned several times in the article. This article is about Compton, California and not this album. Postoak 23:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm having somewhat of an edit war with multiple anons concerning this album. The only notable relationship between this city and this album is already clearly stated in the article. The additional paragraph describing the album and the group is duplication. However, the article does link to the Straight Outta Compton article where the album fully described. Once again, the Compton article should focus on the city and not albums. Perhaps a new article should be created, "Music that popularizes the gang culture in Compton, California" or something similar? Postoak 14:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- This album is mentioned several times in the article. This article is about Compton, California and not this album. Postoak 23:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
"Some episodes of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air took place in Compton because Will's friend Jazz lived there.[14] Many well-known NBA players are from Compton, California. DeMar DeRozan of the Toronto Raptors attended Compton High School...." The Fresh Prince is not a real person. Can we separate fact from fiction? Usually something like a TV show is put in a "Popular Culture" section. This is so unimportant that I think simply removing the Fresh Prince from the article may be the best solution. I'm reading "Vice" by John R. Baker, Sgt. in the Compton police force and it's extremely interesting, although it's a biased view of gangs, crime and politics in Compton from 1970 to 2000. I recommend it. Wastrel Way (talk) 00:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Jackie Brown?
No mention of the Quentin Tarentino film "Jackie Brown?" Part of it was set in Compton and there was a discussion about Compton. 207.59.211.146 (talk) 21:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Again, fact (real people and events) and fiction (movies, TV, etc.) need to be separated and there is as yet no "Popular Culture" section of this article. I'm sure "Jackie Brown" belongs here -- with a citation, of course. Wastrel Way (talk) 01:01, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Cricket
Should there be any mention of the world famous cricket team from Compton? The The Compton Cricket Club, known locally as the "Homies and the Popz". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.64.23 (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes! done! In the future please put new messages at the bottom of the page. I was unaware of the team so I really appreciate your pointing it out! Namaste — DocOfSoc • Talk • 23:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Note on demographics
Note
There appears to be several statistical anomalies in the Census data; primarily the Hispanic and Latino population (62,669)plus the White population (24,942) and the Black population (31,688) outnumbering the total population. (119,299) Even with multi-ethic crossovers, it seems improbable that there are and additional 22,844 people of mixed or "other" ethnicity. Check before you cite the numbers from this section. Srlevine1 (talk) 00:04, 26 September 2011 (UTC) preceding moved from article by The Interior (Talk) 00:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- This is a common issue. "Hispanic/Latino" is not treated by the Census as a race unto itself. Thus, one can be Hispanic and white, or Hispanic and black. Will Beback talk 00:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
NPOV Issue
"Today, Latinos are the largest ethnic group in the city, although many people still think of Compton as a primarily "black" community. One reason for this is that despite the shift in population, as of 2005 blacks continue to dominate local politics, holding all elected positions in the city. Much in the same way that whites attempted to thwart black participation in Compton politics in the 1950s, blacks today have made no serious effort to include the growing Latino population into the political process"
This section seems to take a biased stance without proving adequate factual basis.
- Adding to the conversation, I do not understand why the demographic data provided by the Census bureau appears to be misleading.
- "The 2010 United States Census[45] reported that Compton had a population of 96,455. The population density was 9,534.3 people per square mile (3,681.2/km²). The racial makeup of Compton was 24,942 (25.9%) White, 31,688 (32.9%) African American, 655 (0.7%) Native American, 292 (0.3%) Asian, 718 (0.7%) Pacific Islander, 34,914 (36.2%) from other races, and 3,246 (3.4%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 62,669 persons (65.0%)."
- If you have 96,455 people and 24,942 were white, that leaves 71,513; subtract 31,688 blacks and you get 39,825. So even with a multi-racial background, I do not see how you can claim that 62,669 people were Hispanic or Latino of any race. Either there is a miscount or a statistical anomaly which does not make sense. Steve> Srlevine1 (talk) 23:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
- As discussed at the bottom, the U.S. Census does not consider Latino a "race". People are Latino ("Latino of any race") or non-Latino. Those same people are then black or white or...
- To simplify this in your mind, replace "Latino" with some other non-race someone might be, such as "Baseball fans": "...and 3,246 (3.4%) from two or more races. Baseball fans were 62,669 persons (65.0%)."
- Add up all the "race" percentages and you will get 100% (+/- rounding errors). - SummerPhD (talk) 01:21, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Latin Kings
There's no Latin Kings in Compton... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.170.100 (talk) 03:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Compton has Changed!
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Wow Compton is mostly white and isn't really a "ghetto" any more! It was when I was a kid... Well at leats that's what Easy-E said! SweetShawn999 (talk) 06:50, 28 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Compton is a really safe city. There are no gangs nor gang violence.many people confuse compton with willowbrook or watts or south central. Its not like what you have seen in the movies those are just people who have never been to compton thinking its bsd because of the neighboring cities.those stories of going outside and just getting shot is ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.39.191 (talk) 07:25, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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Under Education schools serving the Compton Unified School District
Should other outreach program be added besides the FOCUS program by UC Irvine their MESA program? Or the program by Cal State Long Beach Educational Talent Search dedicated to outreach as well? Rgangel (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Coordinate error
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Reverted edits
I would like to discuss with John from Idegon (talk) the reverted edit's performed to the Compton, California page. Reason given were "Seems a bit like whitewashing to me. Discuss on talk page." which neither addresses the content nor the citations. I respectfully disagree and would like to discuss a reasonable resolution. I am new to Wikipedia in regards to performing edits but do believe that it was factual, cited and verifiable and written as such. Due to the blanket reverted edit another user was required to undo and add some of which was undone. I believe that we can come to an agreement of relevant edits that further the value of this page. Thank you and please advise how we can accomplish. Steven Brinkley (talk) 17:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I posted a Welcome on your talk page which gives plenty of suggestions. It looks like you were posting bare URL so that is a opportunity of improvement. Also look at what notability means for Wikipedia; the stores in a shopping center are not notable in an article on a city and the name of the shopping center may not be notable either. Here is a suggested guideline for what is expected in an article on US cities: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. The Compton article needs lots of work but is also a frequent target of vandalism and joking around. Incremental improvements are best. Some of what you posted was on the right track but was mixed in with other stuff.
- Cheers Fettlemap (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I saw your welcome post. Thank you for taking the time to shed some light to the Wikipedia community. Steven Brinkley (talk) 18:51, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'll respond later. John from Idegon (talk) 01:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
I am not sure where to put this, but I would delete the Poppy and Short thing about the tree boundary. If you look on Google Maps, there are no trees at all at the intersection (other than palms). Thanks!
Automatic archiving
This talk page seems a bit long and so I am proposing adding automated archival. Fettlemap (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- That seems like something you could do boldly. John from Idegon (talk) 04:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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Incorrect citation?
Under the "Crime" heading, it states:
> The city is notorious for gang violence, primarily caused by the Bloods and Crips,[26] but they are currently in a truce.[27]
with the [27] citation pointing to an article that mentions nothing of a truce between the "Bloods and Crips". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.86.39 (talk) 06:52, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
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