Talk:Courage Under Fire

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Cyberbot II in topic External links modified

Release dates

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Removed section listing release dates by country.

Clarityfiend 03:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Too trivial

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Removed "* This was the first movie produced by Fox 2000 Pictures to be released in theatres." Clarityfiend 17:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Accurate?

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Matt Damon suffered severe brain damage?

No mention of it in his article and not very plausible, so I removed it. Also took out last plot addition. Clarityfiend 10:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Try watching "Team America". There's obviously something very wrong with Damon. (OK, just kidding...) --Peter Knutsen 12:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Rashomon

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I see no relevence between the cinematic concept of this and Rashomon. In this film we start off with a lie from unreliable narrators and the truth is slowly revealed, in parts, by the reliable narrator, Denzel. In Rashomon multiple perspectives are shown, it is debatable if the truth is ever shown, or if all the different slants are various versions of the truth. Without a reliable source, such as a literary critic, such a comparison is merely opinion and so does not belong here. Me, I think the comparison bears mention, and find support for mention in [1] and [2].

Law of Armed Conflict

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If the helicopter with the red cross was receiving fire then the right to self defence over-rides the laws of armed conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.89.159 (talk) 17:53, 20 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Boylar

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Listed in the plot as Lieutenant but in the cast list as Captain. Which is it? (I don't have the film to review it.)MartinezMD (talk) 23:38, 30 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

IMDb has a quote: "I mean the next time I see Lieutenant Boylar's parents, I'd like to be able to tell them the whole truth." This review of the book calls him a lieutenant as well. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I made the change based on that then. Thanks. MartinezMD (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Not the most reliable sources (though IMDb is pretty good about quotes), which is why I didn't make the edit myself. I may just go borrow the DVD from the library and check it out. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
No reason to doubt the book review however.MartinezMD (talk) 03:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
You can't rely on the movie following the book. See for example The Hunters (1958 film)#Differences from the novel. Anyway, I've requested the DVD. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Excellent point that I didn't consider. We can watch it and report what is said, but then we'd be relying on an editor's report which may be considered OR or not reliable. It's a small point, and I'm sure we'd be correct, but we should look for a better source if we can find one.MartinezMD (talk) 02:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
We're allowed to use the film itself as a source for plot details (otherwise I'd have to revert a ton of my own edits). WP:FILMPLOT states "a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims", and "since the film is the primary source ... , citing the film explicitly in the plot summary's section is not necessary." Clarityfiend (talk) 02:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Okay, at around 13:20, Serling talks about "Lieutenant Boylar". On a slightly silly note, in the scene before that, when he is interviewing the crew of the first helicopter, one of the crewmen refers to the Iraqis in the version I first saw as "ragheads". In the DVD version, it's been changed to "fuckers". He then apologizes to Serling. Apparently, he was afraid the colonel would wash his mouth out with soap. (This just in: new army regulations require the use of doilies and antimacassars in offices.) Clarityfiend (talk) 22:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
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