Talk:Cruelty Squad

The "as beautiful as possible" quote

While it could be argued that WP:SUBJECT applies to mentioning the Cruelty Squad Wikipedia article on the article itself, I think it is important as a way of contextualizing the developer's comment that the game was made to be "as beautiful as possible" as being at least partially facetious; even if the quote were to be removed as being "unencyclopedic," it would likely be re-added and cause an edit war, considering how the dev on twitter seems quite hostile to Wikipedia editors (calling them "eggheads" and "nerds"). If anyone has a counter-argument towards how I think this self-reference issue should be approached, or have ideas for how to expand the analysis of the game's aesthetics, I'd like to hear it. Ithinkiplaygames (talk) 00:22, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

It's not facetious. I'm not sure it needs any "contextualization" at all. Simply going through the developer's work previous to Cruelty Squad would reveal his consistent aesthetic vision which he has crafted over time. His vision is beautiful in the sense of its aesthetic brilliance, but more importantly (and undeniably) his work subscribes to 'his idea' of beauty. To claim he was merely being facetious is a spit in the face. Furthermore, in response to his supposed hostility towards Wikipedia editors, I suggest you consider that this was in response to a claim on this page that something he spent a long time putting effort into creating was described as "deliberately as ugly as possible" on the Wikipedia page. 80.220.48.26 (talk) 06:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I understand what you mean, and I for one absolutely do think that Cruelty Squad has a unique beauty to it; however, I don't think that precludes the dev's comment from being something of a joke or "take that" at the editor of the original version of this article. Wikipedia isn't in the work of art criticism, so the "as ugly as possible" line was very much out of scope, but I think at the same time, having an article quote a developer saying that a game was "intended to be beautiful" reads as something of a non-sequitur unless you know that it was in response to someone calling the game "ugly." I mean no ill will to the dev at all, I think the reputation Wikipedia editors get as being somewhat snobby and pedantic is sometimes disappointingly deserved. I was simply providing reasoning as to why the quote probably couldn't be removed outright. Ithinkiplaygames (talk) 07:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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