Talk:Cuban War of Independence

Bias

“Martí’s impatience to start the revolution for independence was affected by his growing fear that the imperialist forces in the United States would succeed in annexing Cuba before the revolution could liberate the island from Spain”.[11]

Really? Then why on earth did the rebels eagerly accept, rather than reject, U.S. intervention? Moreover, why earth would it matter when the revolution succeeded or not if the U.S. wanted to annex it anyway?

A new trend of aggressive US “influence”, evinced by Secretary of State James G. Blaine’s expressed ideals that all of Central and South America would some day fall to the U.S.

Evidence?

“That rich island”, Blaine wrote on 1 December 1881, “the key to the Gulf of Mexico, is, though in the hands of Spain, a part of the American commercial system… If ever ceasing to be Spanish, Cuba must necessarily become American and not fall under any other European domination”.[12] Blaine’s vision did not allow the existence of an independent Cuba.

Really? How do you get that? All he said was that Cuba could not be controlled by "other Europeans". Even if he did say that, why does it matter, considering that he was not secretary of state in 1895-98?

CJK (talk) 21:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

How was the header image for this page chosen? Images for other wars of independence (American, Greek, Argentine, to name a few) feature paintings or collages regarding victories, charges, armies—rather than starvation and the negative impacts of the respective wars. The inconsistency here seems to reflect some bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.66.12.131 (talk) 00:07, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Good point. Do you have an idea for a better image? Maybe something from commons:Category:Cuban War of Independence? groupuscule (talk) 00:34, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Clarifications needed

"After deliberations with patriotic clubs across the United States, the Antilles and Latin America, “El Partido Revolucionario Cubano” (The Cuban Revolutionary Party) was officially proclaimed on April 10, 1892." Deliberations by whom? Proclaimed by whom, where and why?Nemo Impune (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

“Martí’s impatience to start the revolution for independence was affected by his growing fear that the imperialist forces in the United States would succeed in annexing Cuba before the revolution could liberate the island from Spain”. Why is this in quotes?Nemo Impune (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Improvement Needed

The Background section does not provide any background on Spain's situation, only the United States, Jose Marti and Cuban rebels jockeying for position in Cuba.Nemo Impune (talk) 13:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to make some edits to this page, but I'm a new user. Here are my specific ideas:

In introduction add "Historians also disagree on the extent to which United States intervention caused the victory against Spain." Marti section add: "Marti was also notable for his nationalist poetry, which remains well studied to this day. Best known among his works is Yo Soy un Hombre Sincero, one such nationalist piece." PRC section add: Marti’s organization reached out to countless foreign leaders and influential persons of the day, gathering support from all over the Americas, especially seeking support from Cuban ex-patriates in the United States. Montecristi section add: Spaniards were not to be seen as objects of hatred, The war was not to be one of conquest, but independence. Mambises section: Free black soldiers fought in their own units, not necessarily commanded by creole or white officers under the promise of emancipation. During the War of Independence, the Mambises were led by Antonio Maceo, the second-in-command of the insurgent forces. While a large proportion of the insurgency as a whole was black, the Mambises were particularly notable because so many of them were former slaves. About wealthy slaveholders: While wealthy Cubans did for the most part support the colonial government, some were sympathetic to the revolutionary cause either because economic or political convictions. End of mamby paragraph: ...and continued using it in the wars to come. About guerrilla tactics: These sorts of attacks were characteristic of the Mambises, who were known to lack weapons as they were primarily a home-grown rather than invasive force. Weyler Paragraph: Weyler was also known for having learned such tactics during his time in the Ten Years’ War, his “reconcentration” tactics had been in use for some time. After "General Shafter": His exclusion reflected a broader trend of American forces operating independently of insurgent forces. After "Surrender Ceremonies": U.S. occupation of Cuban territory would continue in years to come, its independence subject to American influence. End of Analysis: Regardless, U.S. intervention undoubtedly broke any stalemate which could have arisen from the situation as it was. While the insurgency had progressed well beyond its geographical expanse in The Ten Years’ War, it remained to be seen whether Spain could have refocused its efforts and stopped the rebellion’s momentum. Bsaxl1 (talk) 02:03, 14 May 2018 (UTC)User: Bsaxl1

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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British involvement?

The article on Churchill implies his cavalry troop were involved on the Spanish side. Was this officially sanctioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.46.1 (talk) 08:41, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

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The outbreak of the War

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I have added some small pieces of extra content to the article to help it read a little easier, as well as fill in a little bit of missing content and context behind the outbreak of the Cuban Revolution, specifically involving Jose Marti and General Max Gomez. Nibs1990 (talk) 14:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Britain's Involvment

I have tried to find some information on what Britain's feelings were on the Cuban Revolution. I have been unsuccessful. If anybody could find some information and add it in, that would really help give perspective to the attitudes the world held toward this struggle, and not just how the major players (America, Spain, and Cuba) felt. Nibs1990 (talk) 14:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)