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Requested move 17 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: Dan Levy (producer) moved to Dan Levy (Canadian actor) and Dan Levy moved to Dan Levy (American comedian). The base name "Dan Levy" will redirect to Daniel Levy.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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• Dan Levy (producer) → Dan Levy (actor)
• Dan Levy → ?

– While I don't disagree in principle that it was time to consider moving this from the original "Dan Levy (TV personality)", I don't believe "producer" was the right choice of new disambiguator: at this point, his primary notability claim is not that he was a producer of Schitt's Creek, it's that he was an actor who appeared in the show. We don't move articles to new titles "to reflect their career evolution" every time the subject adds a new role to his résumé (e.g. we don't move a person from "politician" to "lawyer" just because they've quit politics and gone back into law, or from "musician" to "writer" the moment they've also written a book) — we use the person's primary notability claim as their disambiguator, and then leave it there unless very maybe one of those job titles manages to substantively outnotable it in the future. At this point, Levy's strongest notability claim is as an actor, not as a producer — so he should be dabbed as actor, and this should be reconsidered in the future only if and when a credible case can be made that his production work has become more notable than his acting. Bearcat (talk) 16:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 19:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

(As stated in the relist note I placed on this date, I added Dan Levy to this discussion on the date in my following signature. Prior to this date, this move discussion only included the request to move Dan Levy (producer). Steel1943 (talk) 19:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC) )

• Support as a more recognizable disambiguator. Colin M (talk) 20:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
• Move to Dan Levy (Canadian actor) - The originally proposed disambiguator is WP:INCDAB and can make this subject easily confusable with the primary topic Dan Levy, who is also an actor. Bearcat,Colin M: Would you agree? -- Netoholic @ 23:33, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't have any objection to that, but I'm far from convinced that the American one is really a true WP:PRIMARYTOPIC — he's not exactly a hyperfamous actor either, he's just a guy who happened to have an article earlier than the Canadian one did. So it's more likely a case of they should both be moved to "nationality actor", with the plain title "Dan Levy" redirecting to the Daniel Levy dab page instead. Bearcat (talk) 13:19, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

• Support Dan Levy (Canadian actor) as above. And also support moving the other one to Dan Levy (American comedian), as he appears to be more a comedian than an actor. As the Canadian could also be considered a comedian, the nationality is necessary in the disambiguator. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:43, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

  I support the Dan Levy (American comedian) move. That'd result in Dan Levy redirecting to Daniel Levy (DAB page). I'll notify that talk page. -- Netoholic @ 12:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  I think Dan Levy (comedian) is sufficiently precise. Has the Canadian Dan Levy ever been referred to as a 'comedian'? Colin M (talk) 22:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

  Some of his TV work would seem to suggest that the Canadian could be considered a comedian as well as his other occupations. "Comedian" doesn't just mean a stand-up comic. It can also mean a comedic TV personality, and he is described as the latter. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

  Sure, but when I see that label, I would expect they're best known for stand-up comedy, comedy writing, or sketch comedy. I would be surprised to see it applied to someone whose only association with comedy was acting in comedic film/tv roles. I would be really surprised to see it applied to someone who has had just one non-trivial comedic acting role (even if it's the work they're best known for). But if anyone can find any instances of RS applying the label to him, I'll be happy to eat crow. Colin M (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

  "his own Christmas Special for MTV, Daniel Levy's Holi-Do's & Don'ts" sounds rather like a comedic/sketch thing to me, but maybe I'm wrong. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: At this point, Dan Levy was added to the discussion. Relisting to allow readers who monitor the article Dan Levy a chance to respond via the additional notification that will be placed on Wikipedia:Requested moves since this move request will now appear to officially include Dan Levy.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 19:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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Question Regarding Levy's Career Start Date/Years Active

Hi fellow Wikipedia editors,

I am writing to determine if there is perhaps an error in the Dan Levy infobox with regard to the "Years Active" section. The infobox currently states that Levy's career has been active since 2000, but I can find no coroborating evidence of that date. His IMDb page and every other article I've seen about the start of his career (many linked in his Wiki page's references section) indicate that his career began in 2006 with the launch of MTV Live.

Therefore, I've been contemplating changing the start date for "Years active" to 2006, but I'm wondering if perhaps I missed something that justifies the current 2000 career start date listed.

Any sources or thoughts on the career start date?

Thank you.

Ljlibrarian (talk) 01:39, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 7 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 21:24, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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Dan Levy (Canadian actor) → Dan Levy (actor) – more concise title, there are no other actors MB 03:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

• As the last mover Necrothesp said, Dan Levy (American comedian) (which was actually already moved to Dan Levy (comedian)) is also an actor. The proposed move is exactly the one that was done by Werldwayd before being reverted by Necrothesp. A new RM is therefore needed. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose - both Dan Levy's are comedians and actors, just with difference prominence. The current disambiguation is the most clear. -- Netoholic @ 09:39, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per the above. Both the Canadian and the American can be considered actors and comedians, so maintain the difference through nationality.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. There is bound to be confusion for these two for a long time. Their nationality will have to provide the main clue for now. Gleeanon409 (talk) 13:37, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. The distinction between a "comedian" and an "actor" is not a clear-cut one. Comedians can and do act, which the American Dan Levy has done — and actors who are predominantly associated with comedic rather than dramatic roles do sometimes get labelled as comedians, which the Canadian Dan Levy has been (plus even if it isn't his primary notability claim, the Canadian Dan Levy has actually done other side work besides Schitt's Creek that falls even more literally into the "comedian" bucket, like a Christmas comedy special.) So while it is true that the American Dan Levy is technically notable more as a comedian than as an actor, and the Canadian Dan Levy is technically notable more as an actor than as a comedian, both of them can legitimately and genuinely be labelled as being both things. That's why nationality is still necessary, even if we're technically using different occupational disambiguators: "actor" and "comedian" are not mutually exclusive labels, but can overlap into each other, and very much do here. Bearcat (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. What I said last time. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Better photo

Hello! The current photo on Levy's article is blurry and there are better photos of him out there. Could we replace it with a higher quality one?

Requested move 6 December 2020

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. People have good faith, reasoned disagreement over whether this individual is primary in terms of long-term significance. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 20:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

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Dan Levy (Canadian actor) → Dan Levy – I think it's time we recognize that the Canadian actor is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. He has amassed an average of over 23,000 page views per day over 2020 to date, while the comedian has less than 1,000 and the journalist has 2. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose as I think this is obviously a very recent pop culture spike and may not reflect long-term trends - it was only 2 years ago this article was getting 5% of its current views, and only 6 months ago it was getting a quarter. There are also many Daniel Levy's to consider. Its best to keep all disambiguated. Stop thinking of PRIMARYTOPIC as granting people "recognition". -- Netoholic @ 07:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support Clear primary topic. blindlynx (talk) 17:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
• Comment isn't this WP:RECENTISM due to the 2020 Emmy Awards? -- 67.70.26.89 (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Becoming the first person to win a Primetime Emmy Award in all four major disciplines in a single year goes a long way towards establishing long-term significance. -- Tavix ^(talk) 22:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose as I'm in agreement with part of Netoholic's argument - there are numerous Dan Levys in the world. To 'recognise' one as the definitive Dan Levy over the others is to disrespect the work of the others. To say Dan Levy (Canadian actor), Dan Levy (journalist), Dan Levy (comedian), etc, etc, doesn't disrespect any of them. It simply distinguishes between them. 84.13.35.96 (talk) 15:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Oppose, as per stated arguments Eccekevin (talk) 16:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

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"Four disciplines"

@55eo55: Hi there, re: this edit, can you please explain what you mean by "four disciplines"? While I get that he won for acting, directing and writing, what is the fourth "discipline"? The fourth award I see is a general award for the show, which doesn't seem like a "discipline" in the way that knowing how to act/write/direct would be disciplines. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Cyphoidbomb: He won for directing, writing, acting, and producing, which are four different "disciplines" or fields. The comedy series award was won as a producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 55eo55 (talk • contribs) 06:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Can you please sign your response next time with four tildes as is required of all contributing editors on talk pages? The last "discipline" of production is not supported by any explanatory information, which is why I was confused, and I think some explanatory material needs to be added. Or...the "four disciplines" hyperbole should be scaled back. The source article doesn't make any claim about the grandiosity of four "discipline" wins being achieved in a single year, so it's really striking me as promotional fluff, which is highlighted by the fact that most of the other content you submitted in that edit has been reverted for one reason or another. The phrasing feels... "icky". Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:55, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

The university of Alberta is not the only school in North America with First Nations program!

https://www.ulethbridge.ca/future-student/program/indigenous-studies 2603:8081:5200:A100:50D1:2014:792B:8111 (talk) 13:41, 26 September 2021 (UTC)