Talk:Daniel Sturridge
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editMessi topped the list of best minutes per goal ratios in the Premier League for the 2012/13 season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.4.27.122 (talk) 16:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Daniel has scored a goal in every England age group in international matches, from Under 15s through to full international. The first footballer ever to do so.Ctk22 (talk) 14:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
On 12 May 2013, Daniel scored his first ever hat-trick and in doing so became the fastest Liverpool striker to score 10 goals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.4.27.122 (talk) 08:56, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Most Vauable Player
edit"The following year he was the leading scorer and voted Most Valuable Player"
I very much doubt it was called Most Valuable Player, that is an American term. Since there's no source for that line anyway, I can't find out what it was actually called.
- It was for the 'Nike Cup' which i believe is hosted in america. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.92.37 (talk) 03:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Computer Games
editIs it really relevant to list what ratings he may/or may not achieve in computer games? I think notStatto74 10:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Transfer fee
editIs that actually the training compensation? Chelsea offer him first professional contract and have to pay Manchester City training compensation. It is not abut his age. Matthew_hk tc 15:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- He was already a professional at Manchester City - it is not classed as "training compensation". For a Bosman transfer between two English clubs a fee determined by tribunal applies if the player is under 24, see for example [1]. Oldelpaso (talk) 19:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Number at Chelsea
editThe article currently states he will wear the number 23 for Chelsea, however there is a photo on the Chelsea website showing him in training with the number 18 on the training kit. Should we change the article to reflect this? http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewSignings/0,,10268~1712990,00.html mpbx (talk) 03:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- Until Chelsea confirm their 2009-10 squad numbers, he hasn't got a number at all. What they wear in pre-season isn't necessarily the same as their eventual squad number, for instance, Franco di Santo wore #36 on last pre-season tour but #9 in 2008-09. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Update stats
editshould we add his appearances and goals from the World Football Challenge? or do only regular season games count? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.6.247.204 (talk) 19:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Generally, stats from friendly matches are not counted for career stats for players. Miles Blues (talk · contribs) 21:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Error?
edit"Sturridge has represented England at youth level from under-16 upwards.[9] Most notably he scored at the European Under-17 Championship in the final against Italy, twice against Holland for the Under 18 side, and again at the recent Under-19 European Championships against Holland."
Page says this, with only a reference for representing england at youth level in general, it mentions he scored a goal in the final of the european U 17 championship, but when visiting the link it shows a list of finals with the only final england have taken a part of, losing 1-0 to spain, thus not scoring vs italy..
- Thank you for pointing this out. You are correct, so I removed the reference to Sturridge scoring against Italy as it simply couldn't have happened, given England didn't play Italy in an under-17 final. Thank you, PamukSoundystem (talk) 19:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Sturridge did not participate in the 2009 Community Shield. His medal is from 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.251.3 (talk) 13:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Height
editThe premier league website has listed him as 6 foot 2 which is the source for his height on wikipedia. However he is definitely not that tall. 5 foot 11 would be a more appropriate answer for his height. When he signed for Chelsea he was only marginally taller than Carlo Ancelotti who was around 5 foot 11 in his prime. If you look at pictures of him with Owen Coyle who is 5 foot 11 Sturridge looks the same height if not shorter. When you see him next to other England under 21 players who are listed at a similar height to him on wikipedia eg Chris Smalling and Jack Rodwell he is a good few inches shorter than them. When playing for Bolton you could clearly see that he was not the same height as Gary Cahill. He is certainly not short but he isn't 6 foot 2.
Find a citation for his height then and put it in. Until then, his official height should remain that which is given by the Premier League. Quentin X (talk) 15:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Granted that is the only citation but I'm sure you would admit the height given by the premier league is wrong, even though they clearly should be a reliable source and we shouldn't use that source because it is wrong. Obviously just using my opinion over theres is silly but when I know it's wrong then it's annoying. I look forward to seeing his height changed to 5 foot 11 in the future when there is a proper citation.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/R3qm7EoCU_p/Bolton+Wanderers+v+Wolverhampton+Wanderers/MZ_ErBmBzHC/Daniel+Sturridge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.106.67 (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Chelsea+Training+Press+Conference+NjCCiCipDsel.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.106.67 (talk) 16:37, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
5 foot 11 John Heitinga squaring up to Sturridge http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Bolton-2-0-Everton-Toffees-in-trouble-as-Daniel-Sturridge-and-John-Heitinga-deflection-from-Gary-Cahill-effort-give-Wanderers-points-article697107.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.252.223 (talk) 15:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Sturridge with John Terry (JT listed at being around 6 foot 1 1/2) http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Daniel+Sturridge/John+Terry/Preston+North+End+v+Chelsea+FA+Cup+4th+Round/IvU7mxsJaaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.250.3 (talk) 14:40, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
According to Football Manager 2012 he is 181 centimetres tall, which is 5 foot 11 and likely his correct height. Anyone able to provide a link courtesy of Football Manager 2012? Thanks
I guess this wouldn't be a strong enough source? Ignore what stats FM have given him. He's much better than that. Height is right though
http://media.photobucket.com/image/football%20manager%202012%20daniel%20sturridge/seanb2k9/DanielSturridgeOverview_Attributes.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.250.3 (talk) 14:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
He is listed as 1.83 m (6') on the Sky Sports website. At least we have the evidence to bring his height down a little. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.131.210 (talk) 01:02, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
He is in fact without a doubt NOT 6'2". That would make him as tall as Thierry Henry, Didier Drogba and taller than Steven Gerrard. A simple Google search of him with the latter two players would reveal that he is in no way possible the same height as they are. For whatever reason (premierleague.com) there seems to be misinformation regarding his height floating around the web on what should be creditable sources. While most of these sources didn't seem to bother fact checking their information, it appears the one with the most to lose, did: [1] ESPN has him listed at what has to be the most accurate height one may find on the web (5'10"/1.79m) and just happens to be as creditable as it gets. It would appear the guys over at ESPN at least value even the tiniest details, and are beyond simply cutting and pasting whatever they find online. Sol10Dios (talk) 06:09, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Sol10Dios: For the most recent discussion see the bottom of this page. QED237 (talk) 09:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Edit request on 2 January 2013
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please change "Daniel Sturridge plays for Chelsea" to "Daniel Sturridge plays for Liverpool" Prasenjit LFC (talk) 11:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 3 January 2013
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In the Liverpool section it says that he has signed a 5-year contract. None of the sources backs-up this claim. Both speak of a long-term contract. Some sources mention a 3.5 year contract, which wouldn't be that long-term. I'd suggest "5-year" to be substitued by "long-term", as obviously there is no information available about the length of his contract.
- Amended as suggested. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:31, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Team GB,
editThe box suggests he played 5 games for Team GB during the 2012 Summer Olympics. I am not sure of the actual figure but it doesn't sound correct. Could some one confirm the amount of games he played for Team GB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaronsingh (talk • contribs) 18:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Goal scoring record
edit"Youth level
Sturridge has represented England at U16, U17, U18, U19, U20 and U21 levels.[12] He scored twice against the Netherlands for the Under 18 side in 2007, netting again in the Under-19 European Championships against the Netherlands. He scored the only goal for England U21 in a 1–1 draw against Greece U-21 in Greece and scored his second U-21 goal in the 1–0 win over Portugal. He was named in the England U21 squad for the 2011 UEFA European Under-21 Football Championship."
Sturridge has scored an international match goal across all youth age groups
The FA confirm that he is believed to be the only player to do so, from U15 through to full international level.
199.4.27.122 (talk) 14:02, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- Can you give us a link from the FA of this confirmation? GedUK 12:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Personal
editI didn't notice a typical Personal section. I'd find it interesting to know his parental lineage, for instance. Trafford09 (talk) 00:11, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 31 October 2013
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Daniel's sublime chip for his goal against West Brom on 26th October was his 8th Premier League goal this season and his 21st goal so far in 2013, he has 21 goals in the 27 games since he transferred to Liverpool in January 2013. 199.4.27.122 (talk) 14:32, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
That's nice, striker scores goal. Is this notable in some way? Britmax (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- I've recently removed prose about this goal. We don't need prose on every goal; the page would just be full of a line or two on each goal, a reference, and that's it. There was nothing particularly notable about the goal; 8th of the season, 21 in 27, 21 this year, nothing there. GedUK 12:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Official Daniel Sturridge online channels
editA section on verified/official Daniel Sturridge online accounts would be helpful.
https://www.facebook.com/DanSturridge https://twitter.com/D_Sturridge http://instagram.com/dstudge http://www.ds15.co.uk/
Subclassic (talk) 08:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)subclassic
- I would agree, the problem is that we have a, in my opinion, out-of-date guideline on things like this, which basically says you should have one, the official website, and that we shouldn't be a link farm. WP:EL is the guidline. GedUK 13:12, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm not convinced Facebook, Twitter and Instagram really need Wikipedia's SEO benefit to be successful so I agree, the guidelines could probably do with a re-think to include verified accounts on the major social media channels. It would certainly help the profiles of professional athletes. Forgive my newness to Wikipedia - were I to make the edits I've suggested, above, are you saying they'd be deleted due to the aforementioned outdated guidelines?
Subclassic (talk) 09:03, 31 January 2014 (UTC) subclassic
Please could someone advise/help with this? In the interests of completion and thoroughness, all official online channels should be included in the Wikipedia entry.
Subclassic (talk) 19:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Subclassic
- The relevant section of the guideline listed above is here. As a general rule, only one official link is included. To quote from the guideline " Wikipedia does not attempt to document or provide links to every part of the subject's web presence or provide readers with a handy list of all social networking sites"... ..."More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with significant unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation." Oldelpaso (talk) 21:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know what it says, but I'm still of the view it's out of date. GedUK 13:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- That's something to take up at Wikipedia talk:External links. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know what it says, but I'm still of the view it's out of date. GedUK 13:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Daniel Sturridge
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Reference named "Hugman2010-11":
- From Jack Cork: Hugman, Barry J., ed. (2010). The PFA Footballers' Who's Who 2010–11. Mainstream Publishing. p. 95. ISBN 978-1-84596-601-0.
- From Theo Walcott: Hugman, Barry J., ed. (2010). The PFA Footballers' Who's Who 2010–11. Mainstream Publishing. p. 426. ISBN 9-781845-966010.
- From Adam Lallana: Hugman, Barry J., ed. (2010). The PFA Footballers' Who's Who 2010–11. Mainstream Publishing. p. 243. ISBN 9-781845-966010.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 18:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
{{England squad 2014 FIFA World Cup}}
editTemplate {{England squad 2014 FIFA World Cup}} needs adding. 93.158.7.150 (talk) 19:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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Please add 2014 World Cup Section
On the 12th May 2014 after a prolific season for Liverpool, Daniel was named in Roy Hodgson's 23 man squad to go to the World Cup in Brazil.
Source: http://www.thefa.com/news/england/2014/may/england-world-cup-squad-2014-confirmed 199.4.27.122 (talk) 09:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done for now: Three small problems: the date is the date of the article and not necessarily the date he was named, the "prolific season" stuff sounds a bit like WP:PEACOCK wording and we use the last name when referring to the subject of the article. The remainder seems a bit short for a new section. Would you like to add it to some current section or add more content? Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 15:49, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Sturridge's height
editLiverpool FC, Goal.com, UEFA, Soccerway, the Premier League & Whoscored state that Sturridge's height is 1.88 m. Transfermarkt and Sky Sports states that his height is 1.83 m. ESPN FC, Washington Post & FIFA states that his height is 1.79 m. Personally, I am inclined to list his height as 1.88 m, but first, I would like to hear some community consensus. Thoughts?--Alza08 (talk) 03:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Transfermarkt is not a reliable source and should never be used on wikipedia. Regarding the other sources Premier League us often used for Premier League players and since both PL and Liverpool themselves has 1.88m that seems like the correct height. QED237 (talk) 12:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I think common sense and photographic evidence should prevail. Seeing him next to others listed at 6 ft 2 clearly proves he is a good few inches shorter than his listed height. Surely having seen him alongside his 5 ft 11 strike partner Luis Suarez everyone can see that there is nothing between them (although Sturridge perhaps slightly shorter). If he's to be listed at 6 ft 2 then I think it should be acknowledged that this is his 'official height' and not actually his correct height. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.161.160 (talk) 11:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Sturridge 188 cm is a joke! come on --92.59.126.158 (talk) 18:06, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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Copypaste of entire article removed
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Daniel Sturridge is the first English player to score in the Europa League/UEFA Cup final since Robbie Fowler in 2001 Kingabston2003 (talk) 21:14, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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Add a section about his loan spell at West Bromwich Albion, and also add this to the Infobox. TheLionOfAllLions (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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Daniel Sturridge has played 3 games for West Brom. His debut against Manchester City and then vs Southampton and Chelsea. http://www.skysports.com/football/w-brom-vs-soton/teams/373356 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/11248242/daniel-sturridge-injured-after-three-minutes-of-chelsea-return-with-west-brom Gevork ian (talk) 00:20, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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Some notable information to go under '2017–18 season' section, where Sturridge came off the bench for LFC to score against Arsenal. Reference: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40990427
On Sunday the 27th of August 2017, in a Premier League home fixture against Arsenal, Sturridge made a 74th minute substitute appearance replacing Sadio Mané. After being on the pitch for as little as three minutes, Sturridge connected with Mohamed Salah's cross, heading in at the far post past Arsenal goalkeeper Petr Cech; consequently scoring Liverpool's fourth, and final goal of the day. Itsscotthalls1970 (talk) 19:08, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Why is this notable? Mattythewhite (talk) 00:23, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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Change Height of 6’ 2” to 5’ 10”. I believe the stated height of 6’ 2” is an error produced by a typo from the source that lists him at 188 cm (converted to 6’ 2”) rather than the more accurate 178 cm (5’ 10”). 129.59.122.20 (talk) 03:57, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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Endorsements
editHow is the Endorsements section relevant to the persons profile or background. It is also very outdated. This section should be removed 2A00:23C5:6F01:4600:E03C:32DD:F9FE:F9B9 (talk) 07:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)