Talk:Daniel Tosh/Archive 1

Archive 1

Edit request from 98.230.67.211, 3 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Under Daniel's pictue, under "genres", the last one says "black comedy". I think you should change that to somthing else because Daniel Tosh makes fun of all races, white, black, Asian, Indian, Mexican, etc. To me, it makes it seem like Wikipedia is calling him a hater of black people and that he only makes fun of black people when he is talking about race. It would make more since if you would please change the "black comedy" part to somthing more sutible that fits all races, even whites. I do not know is he is a raciest, but you are making it seem like he is to the average person who goes onto Wikipedia and looks up Daniel Tosh to get to know more about him. Please take my request into consideration, and I would give you a suggestion of what that change could be, but it is too wordy. 98.230.67.211 (talk) 00:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Black comedy has nothing to do with race. It just means that the comedy has controversial subject matter. ... discospinster _talk 01:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Would be fucking nice if you are going to protect a page to make sure the fucking grammar and spelling are correct. Douche bags "He appeared as one of the New Faces at the 1998 at Just for Laughs in Montreal"

I have fixed the grammar. Next time, please be civil with your requests, or they will be ignored or reverted. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:46, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Fake Bio?

Is the biography faked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mydogtrouble (talk • contribs) 20:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Reads like a promotion

I've never seen a wikipedia article reference someones show with the (share). How in the world is the viewership of someones show (down to the share) encyclopedic? I've seen products listed as promotions and it appears it doesn't stop there.Woods01 (talk) 01:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

If the special had its own page, it would be on the article page. Since it doesn't, that information is on the Tosh article. Most well-documented TV shows on Wikipedia have viewership information, not to mention movies. tedder (talk) 03:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Comedy discography

Why was the page for True Stories I Made Up deleted? I viewed it before I got my account and it looke okay, it had a picture, references, external links, an infobox, and content. Why was it deleted but the page for Completely Serious is still up? And how come there isn't a page for Happy Thoughts which aired on Comedy Central and is also a DVD release? We can get plenty of sources for the pages, but how come we don't have them? TomUSA My talk page 22:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

See also: Talk:Tosh.0 § This Page is about to get Covered in Shit Edits

As much as I'm loathe to protect a Talk page, given Tosh told everybody to vandalize his page and the already excessive vandalism, I feel there's no other choice. Q ^{T C} 04:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

LOL, way to go!! JBsupreme (talk) 04:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

What's the deal with the 2 deletions? Both admins click the wrong button, or..? --Cybercobra (talk) 04:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Poor man's rev-delete. Q ^{T C} 04:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure his show is going to get canceled anyhow, due to a curtailment of puke. JBsupreme (talk) 09:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Not likely. Unlike you, most people have a sense of humor and aren't lame enough to take this site that seriously. Come on, it's not like this is a real encyclopedia. PÆon (talk) 08:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I only did it because he asked me to. I do not normally do things like that on Wikipedia. --Gebl Gebl Gebl (talk) 04:10, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

The big flashy "this is your final warning" message on the edit page is ridiculous. It is frightening and intimidating to anyone who has sympathy for Tosh, or even people like me who hate Tosh but have some sympathy for freedom of speech for comedians. It is completely ridiculous and is an affront to everything Wikipedia should stand for. "Please do not vandalize" is plenty enough, we don't need massive flashing signs trying to scare people. Wikipedia should be better than this. Boo. MarcelB612 (talk) 03:48, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree. There are far worse vandalised paged on Wikipedia.Euchrid (talk) 04:48, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Requested addition

{{editprotected}} The following is submitted for administrator consideration in the Career section after the sentence that ends with "Premium Blend":

He also hosted a local late-night comedy show in Florida called Ten and served as a spokesperson in Taco Bell commercials.

Thanks, RevelationDirect (talk) 03:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

 Done tedder (talk) 04:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes! That means, by definition, that my sourced Wikipedia-quality sentence is also the most interesting recent edit on this page. MENTION ME ON THE AIR TOSH! RevelationDirect (talk) 00:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Should be indefinitely semi-protected

This article should be semi-protected indefinitely until flagged revisions can be put into place. JBsupreme (talk) 05:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what flagged reviusions mean but I agree with the continuing protection. Lots42 (talk) 00:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Some edits

On March 12 and March 14, 2010, there are edits that are crossed out never to be viewed again. How did that come about? I have never seen crossed-out revisions anywhere else. How common are crossed-out edits like that and how is it decided to cross them out? I'm just curious about this, since it is unusual. Thanks. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 03:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Well Wikipedia is open to absolutely anyone. Any person could add defamatory information, personal contact information, or any other number of egregious unwanted content. These are times when it's beneficial to Wikipedia to strike out edits to make them invisible to non-admin users. It's a method to cover our butts, so-to-speak. Dawnseeker2000 03:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so there could have been personal contact information involved in there or something like that. That explanation makes sense. Thanks. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 01:58, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Tosh asked his viewers on Tosh.0 to vandalize his page. In order to make sure no one saw those edits, they were deleted. That way, there wouldn't be so much traffic just to see certain diffs. Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:25, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

They also crossed the legal boundary of WP:BLP. Note the difference between a policy or suggestion on Wikipedia and a legal issue. The latter requires quick and more severe action be taken. tedder (talk) 05:37, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Info

• "Wikipedia Updates", Tosh.ComedyCentral.com.
• "Your Wikipedia Entries ", Tosh.ComedyCentral.com.
• "Tosh.0 Wiki", Tosh.0.Wikia.com.

Hyacinth (talk) 06:00, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Add further reading please

• The Demonic Genius of Daniel Tosh: The Comedy Central star brings the Colosseum to your couch. December 2012 Atlantic (magazine) page 36-38. 141.218.36.50 (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 September 2013

The last sentence in the first para: "...considers "flat, hot, and dumb". It should read dumb." (period then quotes). Thanks.

67.183.99.92 (talk) 02:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks. ... discospinster _talk 16:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Is Daniel Tosh a German comedian or an American comedian of German descent?

The biography lists Mr. Tosh as a German standup entertainer; however, he is listed as an American national. Should he be listed as an American entertainer of German-descent instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonder J (talk • contribs) 18:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

American comedian of German descent, or a German American if you will. TomUSA 20:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

No ancestry in the lead unless it is specifically relevant to who they are i.e. George Takei as an example. Also, this should tell you everything you need to know. (Oh, and no I'm not denying he is German-American in anyway, but this is just how the lead sections is done around here) --Τασουλα (talk) 16:21, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

He is not of german descent though. His parents are american. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.103.131.254 (talk) 22:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2014

can i please change some thing!

2001:558:6040:28:153B:D052:D612:460F (talk) 22:50, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 01:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2014

Would like to replace the first picture of Daniel at the request of his manager.

thumbnail Evanishere (talk) 18:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: There does not appear to be an image by that name. ... discospinster _talk 19:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2014

Daniel Tosh's Management Company would like to replace the current photo on the wikipedia page with the following picture:

thumb|Daniel Tosh Evanishere (talk) 17:33, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, as long as you realize that now anyone can use this image for their own purposes, as long as they cite the Wikipedia file and allow sharing in the same way (WP:CC-BY-SA). ... discospinster _talk 18:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Change to article reverted. Photo nominated for deletion at Commons as copyvio. [1] Copyright © 1995-2014 Comedy Partners. All Rights Reserved. Photo credit: Robyn Von Swank Dwpaul ^Talk 18:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Lead Section

I added more to the lead so that readers could see an adequate summary of the main points in the article. Gkovach13 (talk) 20:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The rape joke thing

There's an actual source about it here on ThinkProgress http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/07/10/514002/daniel-tosh-gang-rape/ if anyone wants to make use of it. I think it could possibly be warranted to write a sentence or two about the incident, but not a whole section. — Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 20:21, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooh, more coverage.

• http://boingboing.net/2012/07/10/douche-0-daniel-tosh-digs-rap.html
• http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/daniel-tosh-rape-joke-laugh-factory_n_1662882.html
• http://now.msn.com/now/0710-tosh-rape-jokes.aspx
• http://gawker.com/5924948/comedy-central-host-daniel-tosh-should-not-tell-people-how-funny-it-would-be-if-they-were-raped
• http://uk.eonline.com/news/329159/tosh-rape-joke-apology-aftermath-club-owner-defends-comedian
• http://www.inquisitr.com/273946/tosh-apologizes-for-rape-joke-aimed-at-laugh-factory-audience-member-owner-defends-comedian/
• http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2012/07/daniel-toshs-apology-gang-rape-joke-almost-weak-joke-itself/54412/
• http://jezebel.com/5924937/daniel-tosh-is-sorry-he-told-a-female-audience-member-that-she-should-get-hilariously-raped
• http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/pop-cult-1.811972/daniel-tosh-rape-joke-displays-lack-of-talent-1.3830423

— Jeraphine Gryphon ^(talk) 11:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I added a little bit for the sake of WP:NPOV, or at least, my stab at it. This thing smacks of WP:RECENTISM to me, and I have a feeling that the entire paragraph ought to be 86'd (or chopped to a single sentence) because most of the coverage seems to be scandal mongering from opinion blogs, with little-to-no solid reliable sources. But while it's still here, I've attempted to make it balanced. ColorOfSuffering (talk) 22:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Some of the language seems to be pretty biased. For example, those in support of his jokes are represented by famous comedians, whereas his opposition is represented by a blog calling him "Douche.0." Maybe a women's rights organization would be more representative of his opposition? To avoid bias and scandal-mongering sources, I think the section could really be cut down to:

"On July 10, 2012, a blog titled Cookies for Breakfast published an account by an unnamed woman in which Tosh made a series of jokes about rape at the Laugh Factory. Allegedly, after the woman called out "Actually, rape jokes are never funny!", Tosh responded "wouldn’t it be funny if that girl got raped by like, 5 guys right now?"[17][18]. Later that day Tosh issued an apology on Twitter.[19]" RachulAdmas (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with the point about needing better representation of the opposition. How about a quote from this Jezebel article? [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Euchrid (talk • contribs) 01:34, 13 July 2012‎ (UTC)

Well, as Louis C.K. said on The Daily Show yesterday, "it's a fight between comedians and bloggers," as well as "a fight between comedians and feminists." Those are the two sides currently being represented in the article...though I agree that the whole section out ought to be smaller, considering the ten year test. Maybe we just give it some time to let the news spike die down, then trim appropriately? ColorOfSuffering (talk) 23:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

All I know is that, I myself am a 21 year old female and I think he is absolutely hilarious. People need to lighten up a bit. User:BeckyS (User talk:BeckyS) 22, January, 2014. (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.137.57 (talk)

The editor who stated that this was a case of WP:RECENTISM I think now is pretty much correct. Coming to this page years later, the section should definitely be removed or at least reduced to a single sentence. It was clickbait for a short period but now unimportant. Definitely not warranting its own section. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 01:07, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

It's been 5 years and his controversial rape jokes are still being referenced. (Request for addition to the article.)

• In Vogue (magazine) (2017):[3]
• The Guardian (newspaper): [4]
• A poetry collection: [5]
• Complex (magazine)'s list of most controversial comics: [6]
• Splitsider (sister site to The Awl on a topic about comedy ethics: [7]
• Mentioned in local papers before Lindy West's appearances: [8]
  • And in her book published in 2016 SHRILL: NOTES FROM A LOUD WOMAN BY LINDY WEST[9]
• New York Daily News in a piece about comics that went too far: [10]
• Dr Laura Berman mentions him in a discussion about rape culture:[11]
• Elle (magazine) magazine mentions Tosh's rape suggestion when discussing Milo Y:[12]
• The Week magazine in an article about lines comedians shouldn't cross: [13]
• Esquire (magazine) in a piece about Chappelle being off grid:[14]
• The Conversation (website) discussion about using offensive humor:[15]
• The Daily Dot in a comparison to the current US president:[16]

Those are from the first two pages of a Google search limited to the last year only. Tosh's rape joke incident is referenced internationally, 5 years later, and is being used as a touchstone ethical behavior in comedy. It needs to be in his article. It's not recent and there's plenty of sources that are notable. 97.85.173.38 (talk) 20:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Edit request July 22, 2020 (Additional Career entry)

The following is submitted for review to be added to the "Career" section after the sentence which ends in "later apologized for the joke."

"In 2019, Tosh narrated the autobiographical surf film "And Two if By Sea" about former World Surf League professional surfers and twin brothers Damien Hobgood and CJ Hobgood.

Lowcountrygrits (talk) 15:21, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

References