Talk:Darshan (Indian religions)

Adoring feet

maybe i am missing something here, but why is the only major paragraph in this article about adoring feet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.143.140 (talk) 22:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Bibliography

Since the works in the References were not properly referenced (cited) in the article text, I split this article's bibliography into two sections: (1) References, containing works which are cited in the article, and (2) Further reading, containing works which are relevant to the topic but not cited in the article. I converted all sources to citation templates. I also added some (properly cited) information. The rest of the article, as already noted, has insufficient inline citations and needs further scholarly attention. Porelbiencomun (talk) 04:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Meher Baba's views

I've removed the section on Meher Baba's views on darshana as conferring undue weight to one particular modern guru. Note that the cited reference is not on the subject of darshana but on Meher Baba. There is no indication of why Meher Baba's boilerplate merits almost as much text here as, say, all of Mahayana Buddhist teachings. Canto55 (talk) 04:19, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Agree. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:21, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Agreed, thank you. -Euphoria42 (talk) 17:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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Six, not seven, orthodox schools of Indian philosophy

Why does this article include “Akshar-Purushottam Darshan” as a traditional/orthodox school of Indian philosophy? That is utter and complete nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.3.186.174 (talk) 17:20, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Agree; sectarian pov-puzhing. Thanks for noticing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:12, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Darsana in Vastusastra and Vedanta

Hi, I have just added Darsana in the view of Vastu shastra and Bhagavad gita. Ifidont (talk) 03:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Moving title - 7 March 2022

Moving Darśana → Darshan (Hinduism) – WP:COMMONNAME. The IAST is not used in Indian English. The word Darshan is popular.

• [1]
• Britannica
• Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 119 by Constance A. Jones and James D. Ryan
• The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Hinduism p. 173 by James G. Lochtefeld,

--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 14:07, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 21 September 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 08:55, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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Darshan (Indian religions) → Darshana (Indian religions) – Darshan is not the original Sanskrit term of the concept. It is a corruption of Darshana, and is unique to modern Indo-Aryan languages. The fact that is translated to darshana in Indian English in both north and south India, along with being the standard Sanskrit term, is a strong case for restoring it to its original spelling. https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/darshana Chronikhiles (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 08:09, 29 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@Robertsky: contesting move please. The proposed name is clearly not the WP:COMMONNAME per [2]. Did you check this? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@Amakuru Reopened and relisted. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per ngram above. Darshan is the clear WP:COMMONNAME in English, and also as used in Britannica.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• oppose per ngram above. Darshan is the clear WP:COMMONNAME in English, Hindi, and Marathi as well. Also per Amakuru. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:35, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 11 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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Darshan (Indian religions) → Darshana – "Darshana" is the standard, recognized and common Sanskrit name in Indian religions. Darshan is an aberration in languages like Hindi, Marathi etc. Similar examples: Yog vs Yoga, Dharm vs Dharma. Wikiforhistory (talk) 01:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

• Skeptical: What has changed since the last RM a year ago? The nominator seems to be just repeating the previous nomination, including its rationale. Wikipedia looks for the WP:COMMONNAME in high-quality English-language sources, not Sanskrit. My impression is that the nominator may be pushing some sort of language/ethnicity agenda, as previously suggested in the ongoing RM at Talk:Timmarasu. Characterizing a differing spelling as "an aberration" does not give me confidence. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose - based off of the Requested Move in September of 2022, the ngram provided and Brittanica (and two encylcopedic examples provided by Redtigerxyz in March of of 2022} is enough to keep the title as it is. Per WP:COMMONNAME, Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used. This, of course, needs to be established by a majority of independent, reliable English sources. So, if more proof can be provided for changing it to "darshana" then I'm sure we can open up this conversation in the future.

Due to lack of substantiative evidence, this conversation should be closed and title unchanged. Chilicave (talk) 20:47, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

• Undecided: wouldn't be opposed to moving it to darshana but am also okay keeping it the same for now based on the ngram results. The reason that I wouldn't be opposed to the move is because the word darshana is used in english WP:RS. Here's just a few examples [3] [4][5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. Moreover it seems that the decision to choose one spelling over the other is a preference of the author translating the word, as noted here on page ix [11]. Eucalyptusmint (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Hinduism has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 15:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Buddhism has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 15:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Second relist to give time for wikiprojects to possibly respond, but this can be closed anytime ASUKITE 15:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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