Talk:Dariacore (album)

Notability

@QuietHere: I'd like to discuss the notability tag. "An album requires its own notability, and that notability is not inherited and requires independent evidence." It was reviewed by a credible website and considered one of the best albums of 2021, and it inaugurated a genre of same name (Dariacore). It also has sufficient content to form its own independent article. For me, the notability is evident. Skyshifter ^talk 23:35, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Which is a fair call. I admit that I took a few minutes looking over the article before leaving the tag, and that this is a significant edge case at the very least. My concern was with the fact that few of the sources primarily focus on this album (e.g. That Pitchfork quote is a single line from a review of a different album), and those that do include Sputnikmusic which I'm still not convinced is actually reliable enough on its own to support notability that strongly. I think you've done a good job establishing what would make the article notable with the context provided and that's commendable, but it's still just on the line at best in my opinion. And it's also worth noting that I came to this article from your addition of it to List of 2021 albums (January–June) where you left it without a source to which Mburrell responded by adding one from a random blog which is clearly not reliable. That they had to go for such a source and that the article (and subject, as far as I've seen) lacks in anything much better, is also not a great sign. It might pass WP:NMUSIC based on what you have, but I don't think it passes WP:GNG. Typically, in a situation like this, a merge would be the ideal option. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:45, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

@QuietHere: thank you for your response. You said you weren't sure if Sputnik was "reliable enough on its own to support notability that strongly". While Sputnik is indeed the source with the biggest amount of coverage, I think the other facts I mentioned (considered one of the best albums of 2021 + creating a whole genre) should also be considered regarding the notability of the subject. In fact, I only created this article after discovering the album was included on The Fader's list of best albums of 2021, and I thought this was the main aspect that would make the album independently notable, along with the other sources I found. I also think the Fader's article is significant coverage. I agree that sources such as the Pitchfork one aren't significant coverage, but it's still saying that it was Jane's highlight of the year, for example, so I still decided to add it. Regarding the list, I removed the source. I also think a merge isn't a good option because the article has enough content to be independent. A merge could mean a portion of relevant content here would be lost, especially considering Jane's article isn't that big, so it would probably need to be shortened. Skyshifter ^talk 00:08, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

I've done a few more additions to the article. Skyshifter ^talk 00:44, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

studio album

Someone please tell me why we call "Frailty" and "Dariacore" studio albums when they were made in Jane's bedroom in FL Studio. They were made around similar times which is why I mention it, and Jane didn't ever mention anything about having studio equipment iirc, quite the opposite with the recording processes being very DIY with high editing in the DAWs. This isn't me calling for both of those to not be called "studio albums", I'd just like to know why they are in the first place. Saintfuki (talk) 18:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Isn't studio album just a synonym for "full-length album"? Skyshifter ^talk 19:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

A studio album is an album that is released in studio quality, that isn't a box set, compilation, remix album, etc. This isn't live, this isn't a compilation, this is studio quality, therefore making it a studio album. Like Skyshifter said, it's synonymous with "full-length album" or just what people refer to as an "album" casually. Locust member (talk) 03:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Averageuntitleduser (talk · contribs) 23:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

This album is my guilty pleasure (and the sequels are even wilder), so I thought I'd give this a spin. I may make some minor edits throughout the review. Feel free to discuss my comments if you disagree with them.

Another Wikipedian fan of Dariacore, let's go! Skyshiftertalk 01:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

You love to see it !! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 01:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Well-written

Short but sweet! I have some minor comments, though.

• Described as a mashup album, — link "mashup"
  • Done
• Remover was inspired by Vektroid and SoundClown music. — add "the artist" before "Vektroid" for clarity
  • Done; added "the musician"
• I would delink "mashup" in the audio file description, unless you're lenient towards MOS:SEAOFBLUE. In that case, I would link "microgenre" and "shitposty".
  • Removed
• Delink "chipmunk" or, this may be a stretch, pipe it to "Alvin and the Chipmunks"
  • Linked
• using cover arts taken from the television show Daria — "cover arts" feels a bit odd, perhaps: "using screenshots of the television show Daria as covers".
  • Done
• Remover referred to the subgenre's name as "a joke that's been going on for too long." — consider moving this to the end of the "Reception and legacy" section, before the sentence about the sequels.
  • Moved, though a little bit before that
• I'd recommend using "subgenre" or "microgenre" consistently.
  • Keeping as microgenre

Verifiable with no original research

No issues with source formatting. All references are reliable; Insider is fine for culture. Everything is cited inline where needed. Earwig shows 42%, but this is due to attributed quotations, so there are no issues with plagiarism.

Spot-check

• "The 50 best albums of 2021". The Fader. December 14, 2021. Archived from the original on November 17, 2022. Retrieved July 13, 2023.
  • Looks good. Y
• Bowman, Kirk (December 14, 2021). "Review: leroy - dariacore". Sputnikmusic. Archived from the original on July 21, 2023. Retrieved July 13, 2023.
  • Looks good. Y
• Darville, Jordan (November 12, 2021). "5 Fast Facts with dltzk, the teenage digicore producer with adrenaline and heart". The Fader. Archived from the original on December 30, 2022. Retrieved July 13, 2023.
  • Looks good. Y
• Press-Reynolds, Kieran (November 24, 2021). "An 18-year-old invented a new genre of meme-heavy music called 'dariacore' that's like 'pop music on steroids'". Insider. Archived from the original on July 21, 2023. Retrieved July 13, 2023.
  • Calls it a mashup album and credits it with naming the genre, both indirectly, looks good enough, though. Y

Broad in its coverage

The major aspects provided by the sources are proportionally covered in the article. The paragraph about the album's composition is a little short, but other sources either talk about the sequels or the genre in general, so it's all right. There are some hits in newer sources, but they are just mentions. The article is focused on the topic. Summary style is used for the lead.

Neutral

Statements and quotations are differentiated. Due weight is given to each opinion on the topic.

Stable

No recent edit wars or content disputes.

Illustrated

The non-free use rationales are satisfactory. All media is relevant to the topic. The caption of the audio sample is well-sourced and relevant.

Summary

I don't have too much to say, the article's in good shape! Ping me once you've adressed my comments. For the record, I did some very minor expansion to the "Background and composition" section.

@Averageuntitleduser: thank you for reviewing! All responded. Skyshiftertalk 01:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I like the changes, nothing major is sticking out at me, so I consider this a pass! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 01:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the album Dariacore took inspiration from Internet memes? Source: https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/84213/leroy-dariacore/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dora and the Fantastical Creatures

Improved to Good Article status by Skyshifter (talk). Nominated by Davest3r08 (talk) at 18:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Dariacore (album); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• New enough GA. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out and is in article. No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)