Talk:Darod

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There have been a number of back-and-forth edits regarding which Somali clan is the largest (e.g. Hawiye or Darod). I haven't been able to come up with any good numbers, myself, but I did cite a couple of sources. This didn't seem to help with the back-and-forth edits. However, in the absence of other citations I will continue to revert to a version that includes them. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

The Somali population across all borders is Darod 45%, Hawiye 22%, Isaaq 10%, Rahanwayn 10%, Dir 6%, Digil 3%, Ethenic Minorities 4%. And Within Somalia borders Darod 27%, Hawiye 25%, Isaaq 12%, Rahanwayn 17%, Dir 7%, Digil 4%, Ethenic Minorities 8%. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed pato (talk • contribs) 09:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Daarood is not an Arab clan but a pure Somali clan and one of the most ancient clans of the Somali clan Family. The very names of the Darood clan attest to their Kushitic origin.

1)Names like Kaskiiqabe, Laylkase, and Kablalah are purely Somali Kushitic names that no Arab would give his name.

2)There are names of major Darood clan names that contain the ancient Kushitic Sky-God (Waaqle-Waako) worshipped still by the Oromo and Afar in Darood names like Jidwaaq, Siwaaqroon, Tagalwaaq, Cabdulwaaq, and other names which point to the kushitic roots of the Darood.

3)The Darood like their other kinsman the ancient Dir clan and Hawiye or the Rahanweyn all originated from Western Somali or the lands occupied by Ethiopia in Haud-Doolo-Jigjiga-Dira Dhabe- area.

4)The Darood, like the Dir and Hawiye, entered the hinterland of Somalia, and occupied the sea coast in the 1400 after they left Ethiopia. And the Darood like their Dir and Hawiye kinsman have sections of their members living in Ethiopia today. In early 1700s, some Dir clans of the north like the Dir Isaaq,Iisas, and Gadabursi and Harti clans of the Darood adopted stories of an Arab orgin with the arrival of Sufis of the Qadiriya tariiqa, some started to write Maanaqibs (biographies) that exalted their for fathers. By the 1800's, all Dir and Hawiyas claimed to have decended from a putative father Aqiil a Benu Hashim and uncle of the Prophet of Islam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.160.41.185 (talk) 10:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

There are a number of undeniable evidence that the Darood clan originated from the Bani Hashim tribe of the middle east through d Darood and his father ismaciil buried in Zabid Yemen. This proof consists of genetics, grave sites, books written on the topic hundreds of years ago, descendents (abtirsi), and current darood members still remaining in parts of the middle east. دارودي (talk) 00:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Moved Comments from article

Note: Some one has been editing Darod sub clans in a wrong way; the correct DAROD CLAN FAMILY TREE can be found the following link url=http://www.hrw.org/reports/1990/WR90/AFRICA.BOU-09.htm | date=November 21 | year=2005}}

• "The Somali Ethnic Group and Clan System". Civic Webs Virtual Library. Retrieved January 22, 2006.

HERE ARE CORRECT DAROD FAMILY TREE

• Tanade((Xassan))
  • Leelkase((Abdirahmaan))
    • • Muumin Aadan
      • Mohamed Aadan
      • Fiqi Ismail
      • Mahamoud Ali
      • Korshe
      • Suhure
• Mohamed (Kablalah)
  • Kombe
    • Geri Kombe

1 ilka xume geri 2 abrom geri 3 aw beere geri 4 case geri 5 cabdi geri 6 aadan yare geri 7 bah gurufle geri. 8 xassan geri. 9 siciid geri 10 yaxye geri. 11 xayran geri 12 burhaan geri Geri Kombe inhabitants jigjig,Tuli Guled, jinacsani,Babulii,Wardheer is 50% Hassen Geri is a 4-year-old 1. Sheikh Ishaq 2. Sheikh Abayoonis 3. Sheikh Omar 4. Yusuf (Handsme boy) and sheik was born 1. Abraham 2. Adam and 3. Ahmed Three of their siblings have left many people in Ahmed, the father

• Mohammed
• Muxumed (Bakacsiye
• Musa (Muusedaar)
• Omar
• and Abdalle

- Abdalle left alone ¤ Bahawiye ¤ Cawro ¤ and Jibril The five sons of Ahmed's sons were very numerous and the most important of them came to an early age and they were all inhabited by jungle and surrounding areas. And so far, he left many of his sons Sheikh Abayoonis 1. Sheikh Maame 2. Sheikh Ali 3. Shaking up 4. Jibril 5. Sheikh Muse 6. Sheikh Ahmed Bare 7. Fluorine It is noteworthy that the 7 sons of Abayoonis were Sheikh Ali Abayoonis as the largest number of abdusions and ethiopia, Kenya and somalia

• Sheikh Maame is the highest in somaliland and the western ethiopia
• It is noteworthy that Geri Wardheer is 50% owned by Ahmed Bare and 50 other residents of the Jijiga,Tuli Guled , jinacsani, babulii, along with the inhabitants of the Maame area and a small number of African
• Fiesta is all eaten in Djabouti
• Muse, Dhaar and Jibril are all available in the West in the Jijiga, Fiiq, the Afar region and the Liban zone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdi wali husein irguje (talk • contribs) 09:04, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• • • Harti Kombe
      • Majeerteen
        • aawe
        • wabeeneeye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abmo6905 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
      • Dhulbahante
      • ((Dashiishe)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geedi55 (talk • contribs) 23:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
      • Kaskiqabe
      • Mohamud/Murasante (Warsangeli, Hinjiye)
      • Ahmed/Muracase(Dishiishe, Tiinle, Gabtaanle, Maganlabe) dishiishe=reer Faahiye reer muuse reer gabdoon reer isxaaq reer boqor reer ugaaas reer sekeriye reer ciise reer saleeban reer maxamed cisman reer mugdi
    • Abdi Kombe
      • Jambeel Abdi Kombe
      • Reer Samatar
      • Reer Aardile
      • Arab
      • Ma,aweye
        • Mohamed M,aweye
        • Hujaale M,aweye
        • Abdirahman M,aweye

• • Kuumade
    • Absame
      • Ogaden
    • (Gelimeys)
• Ahmed (Sa'de)
  • Marehan
  • Fa'aye
• Yossef (or Yossef Darod or Awrtable)
• Ciise (or Isse Darod)
• Suhure (or Suhure Darod)

• Any one how wants to know more about correct Somali Clans can refer to
  • "The Somali Ethnic Group and Clan System". Civic Webs Virtual Library. Retrieved January 22, 2006.

This tree diagrma if from Jack Davies (1950's), completely out of date.S710 11:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• NOTE: Wikipedia is a plat form where information must be correct, And reflect accurate and precise information as this free plat form will be used as reference for generations to come. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 265.25.254.24 (talk • contribs) 20:54,

26 February 2006.

Hirsi muumin (reer-cali-ahmed-yusuf-muse-ahmedcawl-abdijiqe) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.207.22 (talk) 21:45, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Mahamed Muumin

Since there is a separate Mahamed Muumin article, I have replaced the text under "Noted Darod clan members" with a brief summary. Anything subtantive about Mahamed Muumin should be added to that article instead. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Darod Jaberti subclans

The Darod Jaberti subclans section has become very unwieldy. I'm also not sure just how specific we need to be regarding the various subclans. Since many of these groups have their own articles, I think any sub-branches should be listed in those articles, instead. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Recently there has been a number of back-and-forth edits to the listing of subclans, subsubclans, etc. I suggest that the editors involved work out their differences here (as per Wikipedia:Resolving disputes) instead of continually reverting the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The guy obviously has a tendency to be a pro-and-first-of-my-clan ideology, who perceives others if they have a vendetta against his. The names he is listing, no body knows. However, the other listed clan names are well-known clans ( and I never belong any of them), but in his conspiracy mentality he thinks we should have a right to know what the names of his uncles are. This is no personal family site, I suppose. And I wonder why he doesn't come here to discuss the issue. His whole wikipedia contribution is listing and re-listing his uncles names up there. Nothing else. Soomaali April 27, 2006

Ahmed Gragn

Wikipedia contains differing statements that Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (Ahmed Gragn) belonged to a particular clan, or was from a particular location. This article contains such a statement. Please see Talk:Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi#Somali clan? for a discussion. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Ahmed Gragn might not have even been a Somali. Richard Pankhurst says he was probably an Afar, so the whole issue should just not be dealt with until it is first known whether he was Somali or Afar (instead you can just mention that various clans claim him, specifying the clans if need be).

Yom 10:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Daarood is a Somali word

Daarood is undisputedly a Somali word. It consists the combination of two Somali words of "daar" and "ood." Daar in Somali means a compound, sometimes a compound villa. Ood means an enclosure place by woods, fence and even sticks. Its former definition meant strictly an enclosed place by woods or large sticks only. Thus, Daarood means an enclosed compound, mostly by sticks as it was that way in old days in Somalia. It still is in the countryside, even in cities and towns.

It isn't the first clan name with this methodolgy. There is "Mudulood" clan within Hawiye tribe consisting the words "mudul" (hut) and "ood" (enclosure). Thus, Mudulood means, like Daarood, an enclosed living space by wall, wood or fence.

And Daarood wasn't an individual that existed. It is purely a myth. Never was verified, nor concrete evidence exists. I don't know why that misinformation was allowed there without evidence. —the preceding comment is by Soomaali - 09:47, 16 April 2006: Please sign your posts!

Daar is actually Semitic (Arabic). Daar (del-alif-ra) is another word for house (bayt/beyt) in Arabic, hence Dar es-salaam, or House of Peace (also used to refer to the Muslim world).

Yom 10:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is Semitic word, so is a Somali. In Somali, it doesn't mean house per se, because the word 'house' or 'home' in Somali has many other words for it. Daar (or daarad) is exclusively reserved to mean a large, open, walled compound, especially corresponding what the Latins call a Villa. Soomaali April 27, 2006.

The size of the Darod

In the Worldbank source (p. 7) at Somali clan you can read that the Darod and Isaaq numbers are exaggerated. The Canadian source cited here is from 1997. That is too old to use for population numbers. On top of that the sources that are used in the Canadian document date from 1992. You cannot use that anymore. S710 13:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Darod clan sub-division

The sub-division give here differs from the sub-division give in Somali clan The reference for clan-division here given (Hunt(1951)) is completely out of date. Hunt is also the source of 'Somali ethnic group etc. from Commons' The map (coming from CIA factbook) that's referred to also gives a sub-divison that's different from the one here given in the text. Shouldnt that be streamlined ?S710 13:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Subdivision

The subdivision of Darod should give a general indication of certain clans within one of the main clans (darod), not their exact place in the tree diagram and lineage. That's why I changed the list of Darod clans which was needlessly confusing.S710 11:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC) Reference to Davies was twice in the list. I deleted one.S710 11:34, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Orphan article

I just stumbled across Jidwaq, which needs a lot of work from someone knowledgable. I'm not certain whether it's information is even accurate. Anyone? -- llywrch 17:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Factcheck additions by User:Abdisalam101

I am quite sure that "Isaaq" is not a sub-clan of Darod, and I do wonder about a bunch of uncited subclan names with no references. I do not know enough about Somali ethnicities to make a definitive ruling, but the content is mis-formatted in any regard, and Isaaq is definitely wrong. Opinions? Please cite sources. --Petercorless 08:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Pardons on removing information

I was trying to revert some vandalism, and didn't go back far enough. Pardon me. --Petercorless 19:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Daarood vs. Dawud

My understanding is that "Dawud" is the Arabic version of "David" (?).

So is the Somali name "Daarood" a pronunciation/version of "Dawud", which by folk etymology has been equated with, or which has been altered by the similarity of, the Somali words meaning "enclosed compound"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.157.177 (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

daarood waxa uu ka koobanyahay 1:sade{mareexaan} 2:kablabax{koonbe} 3:yuosuf{awrtable} 4:ciise

kabalax waa harti koonbe geri koonbe cabdi koonbe

harti waa 

mooracase{dishiishe; warsangeli,dhulbahnte,majeerteen} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.209.122.204 (talk) 18:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Subclan list

The "Partial sub-clan summary" section had grown to a long, unwieldy list, and had been flagged as such since February 2007. I have trimmed the list so that it only includes blue links. If someone decides we do need very long list, please consider doing so at List of Darod subclans or similar rather than inside this article. In either case it should cite some source rather than becoming an indiscriminate listing. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Redirects to Darod

I have redirected a number of sub-clan articles to Darod.

• Leelkase had been tagged as unreferenced for two-and-a-half years, and tagged for cleanup for nearly three years. No edits included any attribution and in that sense the article, over time, was deteriorating, not improving. Until and unless someone can make a constructive edit to the article, I redirected it to the main Darod article.
• Suhurre, likewise, has lacked sources for 2.5 years.
• Fiqi Ismail is also unreferenced.
• Both Suhurre and Fiqi Ismail were so short they may as well be redirected to Darod until someone can expand the content, with attributions.

These are just the articles that I have been asked about; there were others that I redirected. As none of the articles in question had any attribution whatsoever, there was really nothing to merge into the main Darod article. Anyone wishing to restore these articles should provide proper attribution for them. I do not see any use in restoring these articles to the state that they have been in for several years. The remaining Darod sub-clan articles contained references and, as such, are better able to stand on their own. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I did not only go through the Darod articles, see also Talk:Isaaq#Merges and redirects to this article. Thanks. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somalia#Sub-clan articles and redirects. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Attention Gyrofrog: I don't know what reference you need for an Important and a Large ligitimate Somali tribe to be listed on Wiki, i do not see any done for the tribes of Dhulbahante, Majerteen, Marehan, Abgaal, Warsangeli, etc, etc.

There are 4 large somali tribes which are: 1) Darood 2) Hawiye 3) Dir(Isaaq) and 4) Digil & Mirifle, and each has major subclans.

As for the Darood which this case relates to; the Darood has 4 Major subclans 1) Tanade(includes Leelkase, Fiqi Ismail and Suhurre) 2) Sade(Includes Marehan and Celi) 3) Yussef(is Awrtable) and 4) Kablalah(Inclues Majerteen, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli, and Ogaden).

So you have just taken out one of the 4 sons of Darood, the Tanade(Leelkase) which is the third lagest subclan of Darood.

So please offer me some reason, as i'm of the Tanade(Leelkase) tribe, and have been contributing this article since it's birth several years ago, it pains me to see this article being taken off, while other fellow Daroods subclans still are there.

I know there are some other Somali tribes even some of our fellow Darood cousons that harbour some jelousy, hate or competition, or even challenge towards us, so i hope that did not influence you, as they will try to tamper with our article, and if that happens then the thousands of fellow Tanade(Leelkase) around the world would probably re-act by erasing or tampering with other somali tribes articles.

This is one of the mnost important Darood subclans, so please help us understand what the problem is, so that we can correct it in the best manner.

Thank you Taajir —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taajir (talk • contribs) 23:22, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) I have changed Leelkase back to an article, now named Lelkase. It is now a stub with attributions. See Talk:Lelkase#Un-redirected for more details. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

P.S. As I mentioned on Talk:Lelkase, whether it's an important clan or not, the old article did not cite any sources, and had been tagged to that effect for two-and-a-half years. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Synthesis

A user has added a section titled "Genetic evidence contradicting Arabian origin of Darod", where he states the following:

In 2005 the Department of Forensic Genetics of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark had examined the Y chromosomes of 201 Somali immigrants living in Denmark.Some interesting findings have been made which shed more light on the true origins of Somalis. According to this research the overwhelming majority of Somalis belong to haplogroup E1b1b within this haplogroup the rare sub-clade E1b1b1a1b (E-V32) is the most common which is unmistakably of Horn African origin and quite rare in Yemenis and Arabians in general. It is unlikely that none of the tested men were of Darod origin, as Darods make up a large proportion of the Somali diaspora and the Somali population in general .

The first source that he cites actually directly contradicts his claims since it states outright that "East Africans are more related to Eurasians than to other African populations. Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y chromosomes in these areas." The source also does not mention either the Darod or the Isaaq Somalis (the user also had a go at the Isaaq article). The second "source" is just a link to a map of the geographical distribution of the various Somali clans. All in all, a pretty clear-cut case of synthesis. Middayexpress (talk) 21:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It does not contradict my claim at all, I strongly suggest you to become more acquinted with genetics before you make such crude mistakes. The haplography E1b1b (formerly known is E3b) is found in Near eastern and Southern Mediterranean populations and is very rare in other Africans besides Somalis. The marker is equivocally of Horn African origin and has spread out from this point. You have no right whatsoever to delete this claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazi99 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, this issue isn't about Somalis in general as you have suggested above. It is about the Darod and Isaaq clans specifically. Secondly, per the study you insist on distorting for some odd reason, 15% of Somali Y chromosomes are definitively of Eurasian origin, not "99% African":

"The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population − closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya − with predominant E3b1 cluster lineages that were introduced into the Somali population 4000−5000 years ago, and that the Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa."

The origin of haplogroup E is also disputed, with most recent studies actually ascribing it an Asian origin, not an African one. And E1b1b itself is actually quite common in the Arabian Peninsula, with it representing almost 40% of male lineages in coastal Jordan. But that is beside the point. The point is, your rant above does not change the fact that the study in question does not once mention anything about either the Darod or the Isaaq Somali clans. That is very obvious original research on your part. Here is what the study does actually state with regard to Somalis, African and Middle Eastern populations:

"East Africans are more related to Eurasians than to other African populations. Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, while a significant contact to Arab and Middle East populations can be deduced from the present distribution of the Y chromosomes in these areas."

The second study you also cited to support your claims likewise mentions neither the Darod nor the Isaaq Somalis much less their relationship (or lack thereof) with Arab populations. Strangest of all, the study is titled "Y-chromosomal STR haplotypes in an Arab population from Somalia", which you have somehow interpreted to mean that the Darod & Isaaq Somalis have no relationship whatsoever with Arab populations. Going by the title alone, the authors of that study apparently don't share your opinion (at least with regard to Somalis as a whole).

Now that that's clear and you can no longer pretend to have not seen those quotes above from the study itself (since you have apparently avoided reading my earlier talk page explanations => 1, 2), kindly stop pushing POV. I reverted you because that is precisely what you are doing here just like I reverted this other editor on the Isaaq article yesterday for doing the opposite of you i.e. he added original research citing the same genetic study as you did, only he used it to claim that the Isaaq are from Iraq because haplogroup T, which is found at moderate frequencies amongst Somalis, might have originated in Mesopotamia. Bottom line, both of you are POV-pushing, and neither is acceptable. Middayexpress (talk) 21:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Comments from 3rd party

I explained to Middayexpress that I haven't thoroughly read the studies in question. However, even without consulting these, there are other problems with the section:

• Statements such as "Some interesting findings have been made which shed more light on the true origins of Somalis" (my emphasis) are PoV. See also MOS:OPED. Regardless of whether the material is accurate or not, this statement doesn't belong in the article and does suggest PoV-pushing (again, aside from questions of accuracy).
• "It is unlikely that none of the tested men were of Darod origin, as Darods make up a large proportion of the Somali diaspora and the Somali population in general" is definitely synthesis. It cites the CIA map showing clan distribution in Somalia. It does not have any attribution whatsoever that "It is unlikely that none of the tested men were of Darod origin."

-- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, Gyrofrog. For reference, here is the complete paragraph the user above added to this and the Isaaq articles; I've highlighted the part you believe is clearly synthesis:

In 2005 the Department of Forensic Genetics of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark had examined the Y chromosomes of 201 Somali immigrants living in Denmark.Some interesting findings have been made which shed more light on the true origins of Somalis. According to this research the overwhelming majority of Somalis belong to haplogroup E1b1b within this haplogroup the rare sub-clade E1b1b1a1b (E-V32) is the most common which is unmistakably of Horn African origin and quite rare in Yemenis and Arabians in general. It is unlikely that none of the tested men were of Darod origin, as Darods make up a proportion of the Somali diaspora and the Somali population in general . J1e is the genetic signature of the Hashemites, a clan to which the Prophet Mohammed and Abdirahman bin Isma'il al-Jabarti belonged. This haplogroup is extremely rare in the Somali genepool and has not yet been found in a Somali male.

As can be seen above, the only part of the paragraph that actually discusses the Darod is original research clearly intended to tie this particular clan in with the material that is discussed before the highlighted passage. When that OR passage on the Darod is removed, we get the following:

In 2005 the Department of Forensic Genetics of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark had examined the Y chromosomes of 201 Somali immigrants living in Denmark.Some interesting findings have been made which shed more light on the true origins of Somalis. According to this research the overwhelming majority of Somalis belong to haplogroup E1b1b within this haplogroup the rare sub-clade E1b1b1a1b (E-V32) is the most common which is unmistakably of Horn African origin and quite rare in Yemenis and Arabians in general. J1e is the genetic signature of the Hashemites, a clan to which the Prophet Mohammed and Abdirahman bin Isma'il al-Jabarti belonged. This haplogroup is extremely rare in the Somali genepool and has not yet been found in a Somali male.

In other words, a largely OR rant on genetics that has nothing whatsoever to do with the Darod (or the Isaaq since the user inserted an identical paragraph on the Isaaq article). This is what I mean by this material is irrelevant and largely synthesized. Middayexpress (talk) 22:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

References

Does Donbiro Direed ever existed?

  I wonder why do we still hear Donbiro Direed?

for those who don't know Donbiro Direed was married by Darod as some poeple say but does she ever existed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seiko115 (talk • contribs) 11:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Anasbinmalik, 23 July 2011

Sheikh Darod Anasbinmalik (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Please clarify what you mean. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

_{Marking as answered Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)}

Edit request on 14 January 2012

'Ali Saleebaan' 196.201.207.225 (talk) 05:28, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Owlyahan ali

Biedyahan Ali

Omar Ali

Ismael Ali

Adam Ali

Said Ali

You didn't describe what it is you want – I am assuming you want to add this to the "Clan tree" section. If so, then this needs a source (please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somalia#Clan lineage, Category talk:Somali clans#RFC). Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 08:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 March 2012

Howrarsame

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who gave you the right to write in Isaaqs page that Darod has the same story but in his page not the same thing which is Isaac has the same story which i find not objective by the way either you are immature or simple ignores bout this subject take a pick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muktar allebbey (talk • contribs) 23:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Fuad Qalaf

where is the head of al shabbab terrorist group which comes from the darood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuad_Qalaf he needs to be in the noble people of darood or are you ashamed of this man . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.237.211.185 (talk) 01:47, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 September 2012

--184.97.223.206 (talk) 03:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC) darod is five : 1=kablalax 2=tanade or leelkase 3=AWRTABLE)) or YUSUF DAROD)) 4=sade or mareexaan 5=ciise darod' '

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. I can't tell what you are requesting. Note that the article already mentions five sons with these names (or variants thereof). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 03:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Notable people

The "Notable Darod people" section includes individuals whose respective articles don't even mention affiliation, much less provide a source. This first came up at Isaaq, and after cleaning up that article I was accused of bias for not addressing other Somali clan articles. Fair enough. WP:Source list definitely applies in these cases, and WP:BLP applies for many of them. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 05:28, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Mohamed and Muniira winners of Counsel election of Columbus, Ohio State Zuperxiddig1996 (talk) 03:12, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2014. Sheikh Darod's biography

Please, add Sheikh Darud's biography the follwing information with a reliable source.

According to the book of Allaa'i Alsuniyah Fi Al-Aqab Al-Aqiliyah (2006) by Ahmed bin Ali Al-Rajihi Al-Aqili, Sheikh Da'ud ibn Isma'il Al-Jabarti traveled from Zabid (Yemen) to Zayla (Northern Somalia). According to the book, the lineage of Sheikh Da'ud is: "Da'ud ibn Ismail ibn Ibrahim ibn Abdulsamad ibn Ahmed ibn Abdallah ibn Ahmed Ibn Ismail ibn Ibrahim ibn Abdallah ibn Isma'il ibn Ali ibn Abdallah ibn Muhammad ibn Hamid ibn Abdallah ibn Ibrahim ibn Ali ibn Ahmed ibn Abdallah ibn Muslim ibn Abdallah ibn Muhammad ibn Aqil ibn Abi-Talib Al-Hashimi Al-Qurashi".

Refrence: Al-Rajihi, A (2006). Allaa'i alsuniyah fi al-aqab al-Aqiliyah (3rd ed.). Dar Al Manar. pp. 113–116.

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Not done: Please discuss such changes and also provide a reliable English language source to back up your claim. — LeoFrank  ^Talk 06:31, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2015

Under the clan tree, the main marehan subclans are the; rer dini, rer ahmed, ali there and rer hassa Guulwade21 (talk) 23:19, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

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Cabdi Koombe (jambeel) Sakariye saciid (talk) 07:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2016

• • • • Ogaden
        • Abdalle (this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans)
        • Abudwak (this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans)
        • Bah-geri(this subclan is missing from the Ogaden clans)
        • Makabul
        • Mohamed Zubeir
        • Awlyahan

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Darod is second largest clan after Hawiye Abdirahimwiki (talk) 18:10, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2016

Majeerteen (Mijerteen) Omar Mahmud Issa Mahmud Osman Mahmoud (Osman Mahmud) Drhassandaabad (talk) 10:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC) it should be like this Majeerteen (Mijerteen) Omar Mahmud Issa Mahmud Osman Mahmoud (Osman Mahmud) ali saleebaan ugaar saleebaan

  majeerteen is indeed a larg group of clans , not just mahmud saleeban
   thank you

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2016

Please add the following as a notable person: hawo Tako (Abaskuul, Jidwaaq): Somali nationalist killed by the Italians, leading to a nationalist movement against the colonials. Sources of this is already on wikipedia (Hawo Tako Page) Najibduale (talk) 06:00, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

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Darod is the largest clan across borders

The CIA and Human Rights Watch source says Hawiye is the largest clan within Somalia only but not in Ethiopia and Kenya. According to U.S. Department of Justice report "Hawiye (part of the Irir clan family) is probably the largest clan within Somalia.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Libanguled (talk • contribs) 23:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC) 

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2016

the daughter of Dagale (Dikalla) That part is unreliable per WP:REDFLAG & WP:NOTADVOCATE. Mainstream sources don't mention a Dagale or Dikalla.

Karanle (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done

One apparently does [1]. However, it appears to be the only genealogy that specifies the Dir clan chief's name. Soupforone (talk) 16:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2017

Within the first clan assessment based upon the World Bank's Conflict in Somalia: Drivers and Dynamics from 2005 and the United Kingdom's Home Office publication, Somalia Assessment 2001. It stats that the following sub-clans are under the clan of Dishiishe (Dishishe) Omar Mahmud Issa Mahmud Osman Mahmoud (Osman Mahmud)

which is certainly wrong and inaccurate, these sub-clans should be stated under Majeerteen (Mijerteen) instead, as it is in the source provided by the article.

Please refer to the existing source provided in the article:

Worldbank, Conflict in Somalia: Drivers and Dynamics, January 2005, Appendix 2, Lineage Charts, p.55 Abdirisaq Farah (talk) 11:54, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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History

Given the loaded history of the darood i think it would be a good idea to split the origins of Darood (where it all started) and create a new section called "History" to speak more about the actual history of darood, what do you guys think CabuuwaaqWanaag (talk) 10:30, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

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Son of Darod Ismail Muhammad bin Abdirahman: Mahamed-Kablalah Darod had two sons Kumaade and Kombe. Then Kombe had Harti Kombe,Geri Kombe,Harley Kombe,Abdi Kombe Ajuran Kombe etc. Geri kombe had 12 sons the first son was 1ilka xume Geri 2 Abrom Geri 3 Aw beer Geri 4 Case Geri 5 Abdi Geri 6 Yahye Geri 7 Aadan yare Geri 8 Bah Gurufle. 9 Hassan Geri 10 Siciid Geri 11. Hayran Geri 12 Burhan Geri

Hassen is a 4-year-old 1. Sheikh Ishaq 2. Sheikh Abayoonis 3. Sheikh Omar 4. Yusuf (Handsme boy) and sheik was born 1. Abraham 2. Adam and 3. Ahmed Three of their siblings have left many people in Ahmed, the father

• Mohammed
• Muxumed (Bakacsiye
• Musa (Muusedaar)
• Omar
• and Abdalle

- Abdalle left alone ¤ Bahawiye ¤ Cawro ¤ and Jibril The five sons of Ahmed's sons were very numerous and the most important of them came to an early age and they were all inhabited by jungle and surrounding areas. And so far, he left many of his sons Sheikh Abayoonis 1. Sheikh Maame 2. Sheikh Ali 3. Shaking up 4. Jibril 5. Sheikh Muse 6. Sheikh Ahmed Bare 7. Fluorine It is noteworthy that the 7 sons of Abayoonis were Sheikh Ali Abayoonis as the largest number of abdusions and ethiopia, Kenya and somalia

• Sheikh Maame is the highest in somaliland and the western ethiopia
• It is noteworthy that Geri Wardheer is 50% owned by Ahmed Bare and 50 other residents of the Jijiga,Tuli Guled , jinacsani, babulii, along with the inhabitants of the Maame area and a small number of African
• Fiesta is all eaten in Djabouti
• Muse, Dhaar and Jibril are all available in the West in the Jijiga, Fiiq, the Afar region and the Liban zone.

Sheikh Omar, Abomonis, Ishak and Yusuf, 75% of them live in Bay and Bakool regions and the largest clans in the RRA are named 9 (09), while the rest live in Kenya. Sheikh Yusuf Hassen, who is known for his handsome, Abayoonis beauty lady, does not seem to fit well, but is the most beautiful clan in Tanzania, one of the major merchants in the country. N / B. Those people you see are stupid cute and go to the 9th or 9th place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdi wali husein irguje (talk • contribs) 09:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Darood in Oman

The Darood in Oman should be recognized in the Darood page as they are fairly large enough in numbers to be noticed. Darood also are part of the Bani hashim tribe since darood belonged to that tribe himself. Reference: ( الشجرة الزكية في أنساب بني هاشم( ٣٤٦ دارودي (talk) 00:56, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2018

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2021

I would like to an edit request to the divisions of Ogaden sub clan of Darod. In the article, you only mentioned 3 out of 6 branches of the Ogaden clan. They are: 1. Awlyahan 2. Mohamed Zuber 3. Abdalle 4. Abudwak 5. Makabul 6. Bah-geri

Thanks, Abdirage Abdirage11 (talk) 17:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2021

Muniira2020 (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2021 (UTC) Please make a note that Abdulsamad is also known as Mehri Ismail and clan named Arab Salah decended from him, thus noting that Mehi (Arab Salah), Abdurahman, Abubakar and Ahmed are siblings.

Couldn't save the request for edit with the links I wanted to use as resources. Please reach to me at: [redacted]

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2021

102.176.181.34 (talk) 00:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Absame

There is a missing imformation absame had four sons 1 baalcad 2 wayteen 3 jidwaaq 4 ogaden Abdihakinnn (talk) 12:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2021

Abdulrisak ali ahmed (talk) 23:55, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

I need to put more info Abdulrisak ali ahmed (talk) 23:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2022

41.79.197.13 (talk) 13:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Cawad Cali Maxamed Warsengali legal Drafter and most experienced in Parliament Business

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Baalcad

The most powerful qabiil in guriga Amaal 46.15.253.141 (talk) 11:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2023

Kummade Kablalax had 2 sons

1- Absame kuumade is the first born son 2- Abdi kuumade Known as Galimeys is younger brother of Absame kuumade

Abdi kuumade had six sons they are; 1- Waleenbo abdi kuumade 2- ibrahim abdi kuumade 3- yasuf abdi kuumade 4- muse abdi kuumade 5-shimbir abdi kuumade 6-jambeel abdi kuumade Dalanaa (talk) 08:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2023

I would like to request an edit on Clan tree under Ogaden, please include Abdalla, Abudwaaq, and Reer Mohamed as a subclan of Ogaden. As we know there is Tolomoge, who are Abdalla, Abduwaaq, and Reer Mohamed, and there is Baahale, who are Mohamed Zubeer, Aulihan and bahgari. I see the Bahale but there is no mention of any of the Tolomoge subclan. Taliye2007 (talk) 15:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2024

Moha dahir (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC) i am from this clan i want you add the sub-clan of marehan wagardhac, and add the notable people heroes Hawo Tako as she is darod specially. Jidwaaq so update it as my request thanks ..

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 17:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Please review WP:NOR.
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} 17:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2024

In the clan lineage under kuumade. The clan abdi kuumade should also be mentioned together with absame kuumade as they are siblings. 46.126.86.147 (talk) 10:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2024

Axmed Cali Cigaal musician,writer,singer,poet from Majeerteen clan 92.9.52.82 (talk) 08:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2024

Kombe darood 4 children's you forgot to mention (Abdi kombe kablalah) residing in puntland 102.211.215.234 (talk) 23:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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