Talk:Palpatine

Requested move 23 June, 2022

Palpatine → Emperor Palpatine – I would like to suggest that this article's title be changed from "Palpatine" to "Emperor Palpatine". The latter is the most well-known and common name of the character, and has been used for most associated Star Wars merchandise. I realise that Palpatine was not the Emperor throughout the entire Skywalker Saga, but the fact remains that Emperor Palpatine is his WP:COMMONNAME (in a similar manner to how Maul's article is titled Darth Maul although he renounced the title for most of his appearances).JokEobard (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose I don't agree that "Emperor" is part of the common name and you haven't provided any evidence to suggest that it is. He's "Darth Maul" because that's how he was known in The Phantom Menace, which more people have seen than the animated series. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
• Agree, seems more fitting as for the first 20 odd years he was simply 'The Emperor.'Halbared (talk) 08:28, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. star wars palpatine has 11.6m Ghits, star wars emperor has 32m. Both names are commonly used individually as well as together so it makes sense to move to "Emperor Palpatine". —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 05:11, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

wrong information

This page says that Charles Soule's Vader comic suggests that Palpatine created Anakin Skywalker. This is not true. Soule confirmed that the force vision Vader had was was just showing him his biggest fears. Fans misinterpreted it as the force showing Vader that Palpatine is his father. The line "It is suggested at the end of the series that Palpatine manipulated the Force to impregnate Vader's mother Shmi Skywalker, making him, in essence, Vader's father — although this is left somewhat ambiguous." should be changed to somethimg like "It is a common misinterpretation among fans that this comic suggests that Palpatine manipulated the Force to impregnate Vader's mother Shmi Skywalker, making him, in essence, Vader's father, but author Charles Soule confirmed that this is not the case." I can't edit it myself because the page is protected. Thanks --DarthgSkyll (talk) 00:15, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Typo

In Relationships > Apprentices section, there's a typo: 'Ankain' instead of 'Anakin'. GMT-tamota (talk) 11:35, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

"Fictional wizards"

I find this category questionable because force-wielders in Star Wars are a category of their own, unless given other titles. RedSorcery16 (talk) 15:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

A category should at least be verifiable WP:CATVER and it is not clear that it has been. Ideally categories should be a defining characteristic, so this fails WP:CATDEF. I agree, it should be removed, probably a few of the other categories too. -- 109.79.162.163 (talk) 20:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

A clone?

Should the Sequel trilogy section say 'Palpatine threatens revenge against the galaxy, having used the dark side through cloning to cheat death'? 86.135.116.213 (talk) 19:18, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Necessary segment? Please advise.

I'm wondering if this segment is notable enough to remain in the article. It's in the Makeup and Costumes section:

"Film critic Roger Ebert wrote that the Emperor "looks uncannily like Death in The Seventh Seal," and film historian Robin Wood compares him to the hag from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937). McDiarmid remarked, "When my face changes in [Revenge of the Sith], my mind went back to the early silent movie of The Phantom of the Opera with Lon Chaney."

Thoughts? Maybe it belongs in another section? Wafflewombat (talk) 00:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey UpdateNerd! I'm glad to see you're here. Would you mind offering your thoughts on this segment? Wafflewombat (talk) 08:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Could make sense in another section, especially the two comments from those not involved with the films. UpdateNerd (talk) 09:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you think it's enough that they are only commenting on his appearance? They're not comparing anything else about his character to those other characters. Wafflewombat (talk) 09:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Ideally we'd just replace these comments with official sources, e.g. The Art of & The Making of Ep. VI. UpdateNerd (talk) 05:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

First Name Basis

Since I have to explain everything in a debate, I will. The use and emphasis on the name "Sheev" has gone on too far. Even for being proclaimed as "In Continuity" it barely carries any weight outside of fan talk. Now before I press this point further I first want to say the edit in question that was reverted did not take the name completely out of the article (Though admittedly not for lack of wanting). I kept it on the top of the page, and I kept the paragraph where it states where he got the name. I only erased the "Full Name" column, and that mention where "In Development" the name came from, as the state was repeated in the book paragraph.

Only Del Rey books have said George Lucas invented the "Sheev" name. If you all feel that my move was a violation, then go into the Grand Moff Tarkin Article and put a full name column into it with the Wilhuff name into it, then go into the General Hux Article give him a name column with the name Armitage inside it.

We should have noticed in 1991 that "Book Continuity" transforms with acquisition, when MARVEL's rights to write Comics were transferred to Dark Horse. If the filmmakers kept with that old one, Jabba would have been Yellow and furry, and Han Solo would have been traveling with the space equivalent of Don Quixote.

Even within that era book continuity was tentative. They were pronouncing "Palpatine" as "Palpathyne" until the Prequels and when that was done we stopped saying Kashick and now say Kashiek (For Kashyyk).

We had a whole Clone Wars book and comic series where Anakin never took on an Apprentice. Here comes the Clone Wars 2008 Movie which not only added one, but it deleted a whole other character, and gave an eventual alternative death to two other Jedi who died differently before.

Here now comes 2012 Disney acquires the franchise, and kills Mara Jade by making all those books from 1992 onward non-canonical. Good bye Ben Skywalker meet Ben Solo, he commmited Patricide and for some reason we all love him. BTW after 31 Years of not caring we give Palpatine a first name so that all the fans can now dream they're on a first name basis.

The Truth is this, as long as the people who make this like Dave Filoni and Kathleen Kennedy are making this stuff, it doesn't matter what the books are saying, even contemporary ones. They don't read the books and will never stick to that continuity, even Star Trek and Doctor Who aren't exempt, and I won't get into that here.

I won't argue about Fan Wiki's who post this stuff they're in their own world, but this is Wikipedia, it's supposed to be more practical and less biased.

If you disagree that is perfectly fine. You now at least have reason for doubt. Maxcardun (talk) 19:32, 24 July 2024 (UTC)