Talk:Davey and Goliath

Parodies

You have a Parody section but don't include Moral Orel?? Needs a link, at least. Aggiememenon (talk) 18:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Aggiememenon

Done and done! 64.221.15.66 (talk) 17:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank yous

Thanks for all the hard work that went into this article -- especially the info on censorship. 64.221.15.66 (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Another parody to add?

I suspect that the short film "He Was Once" (Mary Hestand, 1989) is, at least partly, a parody of this. There is a boy called Davey; he has a dog; the actors move in a freakish puppet-like manner; and it is based on a moral lesson about lying (though surreally inverted). 86.130.40.127 (talk) 21:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Unsourced material

Article has been tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert the below material with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 21:37, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

History

==History== In 1958, Franklin Clark Fry, president of the United Lutheran Church in America (ULCA), put aside $1 million to fund production of a future television program for children. Soon after, the ULCA contracted with Clokey Productions, Inc., headed by Gumby creators Art and Ruth Clokey, to create a new children’s show: Davey and Goliath. Scripts were written by children’s book author Nancy Moore in consultation with the church; Moore would go on to pen several episodes of the CBS Radio Mystery Theater in the 1970s and early 1980s. The ULCA and Art Clokey teamed up to make the first Davey and Goliath episode in 1960, called "Lost in a Cave." In this premiere episode, the figures were entirely clay (with some latex/rubber clothing showing visible seams) and the scenery was also mostly clay. The early voices included Hal Smith (who did a number of voices including Davey's father), Dick Beals (who was Davey's voice) and Ginny Tyler (who did the voice of Sally's and Davey's mother). These three did many other voices as well. After making "Lost in a Cave" in 1960, Clokey made "The Wild Goat", "Stranded on an Island" and "The Winner" in 1961. In these episodes, the clay figures were now clothed, and more model buildings and trees were added, making the episodes look somewhat more realistic. In 1961, the series of these four episodes began airing free on local television stations nationwide, ranging from ABC, NBC and CBS affiliates to independent stations. Many of these stations ran these episodes leading into network Saturday-morning lineups. Other stations ran them in religious Sunday-morning lineups between various evangelists' programs. By 1964, the show was airing in over 90% of U.S. television markets. In 1962, about eight more 15-minute episodes were made, including "All Alone", "The Polka Dot Tie", "On the Line" and "The Pilgrim Boy". By then, the clay figures had established looks and consistent sizes, and the scenery had became slightly more realistic. At the close of episodes, "The End" was now displayed in regular print, rather than the Davey & Goliath logo-type print. All the episodes made up to this point were known as Series 1. The background music used on this show originated from sources such as The Capitol Hi-Q Production Music Library, which could be heard on shows like Ozzie & Harriet, The Donna Reed Show, Dennis The Menace and other 1950s sitcoms. A few of these background tracks could also be heard on 1960s Hanna-Barbera cartoons. From 1962 to 1963, another 13 episodes were made, including "The Waterfall", "The Bell-Ringer", "The Silver Mine", "Ten Little Indians" and "Dog Show". Nancy Wible was now providing voices for female characters such as Davey's mother. Norma MacMillan (who also provided various cartoon-character voices such as that of Sweet Polly Purebred on Underdog) could also be heard as the voice of numerous child and female characters. Davey's personality had become slightly tougher and, within a couple of episodes, rebellious. Overall, Davey's character remained good-natured. These episodes were added to distribution shortly after they were made. The precise chronological order in which the episodes were produced and aired is unknown. From 1963 to 1964, another series of 13 episodes, including "Happy Landing", "The Big Apple", "Bully Up a Tree", "'Good' Neighbor" and "Rags and Buttons" were made. Davey was slightly larger but the scope of the show itself involved no big changes. At the end of 1964, production on Davey and Goliath wound down. In some episodes (e.g. "'Good' Neighbor"), in addition to the "The End" placard, a screen showed that the show was produced in association with the United Lutheran Church in America. In 1965, a 30-minute Christmas special called "Christmas Lost and Found" was made. The episode was more overtly religious in nature and distanced itself from traditional Christmas figures such as Santa Claus and Rudolph, with religious Christmas songs included. This would also be the last episode featuring Dick Beals as the voice of Davey. In the late 1960s, more 30-minute specials were made, including "Happy Easter" (1967), "New Year Promise" (1967) and "Halloween Who-Dun-It" (1968). By now Davey was closer to junior high-school age and was voiced by Norma MacMillan. "Happy Easter" confronted the death of a loved one, as Davey's beloved grandmother dies suddenly (off camera) within hours of a fun-filled visit. After these four specials, the ULCA and Clokey Productions began funding another series of episodes in 1971. At this point, only Norma MacMillan and Hal Smith did voices. In these episodes, Davey was junior high-school age and occasionally became very rebellious. His antics included pouring paint in a water well, hanging from a dinosaur's head in a museum, telling a handicapped child to shoot himself for being so "dumb" and cheating on tests in school. This Davey had a totally different personality from the Davey portrayed in the 1960s. Norma MacMillan continued to do the voice of Davey. Racism, gangs, conservation, crime and other serious, timely issues became topics for the series. Episodes included "Blind Man's Bluff", "Finders Keepers", "Who's George?", "Who Me?", "Help!" and "The Stopped Clock". The openings were also changed, featuring updated music. Background music was also different from the 1960s series, with some overlap. Midway through this series, Davey's black friend Jonathan Reed was introduced. Jonathan came from a nearby city, and both characters went to school together. In 1972, another 30-minute special, "School...Who Needs It?", was aired. Also that year, the final regular series of episodes was produced. Jonathan appeared in most of the episodes. 1972's episodes included "Whatshisname", "The Zillion Dollar Combo", "The Watchdogs" and "Chicken". In 1973, the series wound down once again, but in 1975 a 30-minute summer camp special called "To The Rescue" was made. This special marked the end of the production of the series in its first incarnation. After an almost 30-year hiatus, Davey and Goliath were next seen as part of a Mountain Dew commercial in 2001, with the royalties from the commercial used to fund the production of the 2004 Christmas special entitled Davey & Goliath's Snowboard Christmas. This holiday special addressed both religious and ethnic diversity. Because most of the original voice cast were no longer alive (Hal Smith having died in 1994, and Norma MacMillan in 2001), new voice actors played the roles. This episode took advantage of advances in animation technology using updated graphics and scenery as well. It was 45 minutes long and aired for a full hour including commercials. Until that point, commercials had never aired during any episode.

"In these episodes, Davey was junior high-school age and occasionally became very rebellious. His antics included pouring paint in a water well, hanging from a dinosaur's head in a museum, telling a handicapped child to shoot himself for being so "dumb" and cheating on tests in school."

I have a very hard time believing that. Unless someone provides a cite I'm going to assume it's vandalism. El Mariachi (talk) 02:41, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Producing the episodes

===Producing the episodes=== By 1962, the clay figures had established looks and consistent sizes, and the scenery had become slightly more realistic. At the close of episodes, "The End" was now displayed in regular print, rather than the Davey & Goliath logo-type print. The background music used on this show originated from sources such as The Capitol Hi-Q Production Music Library, which could be heard on shows like The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, The Donna Reed Show, Dennis The Menace and other 1950s sitcoms. A few of these background tracks could also be heard on the late 1950s and early 1960s Hanna-Barbera cartoons, as well as several episodes of Clokey's own "Gumby" series [primarily episodes produced in the 1950's and 1960's, as the 1980's episodes had their own synthesized score.] By 1963, Nancy Wible was now providing voices for female characters such as Davey's mother and Davey's sister, Sally. She would remain part of the show's cast until the 1967 holiday specials, with Norma MacMillan replacing her roles for the show's final 2 seasons in the 1970's. MacMillan could also be heard as the voice of numerous child and female characters. Davey's personality had become slightly tougher and, within a few episodes, disobedient. Overall though, Davey's character remained good-natured. Davey himself was older, but the scope of the show itself involved no big changes. By 1964, production on Davey and Goliath wound down after the third season. In some episodes, in addition to a placard showing "The End", a screen showed that the show was produced in association with the United Lutheran Church in America.

1970s episodes

===1970s episodes=== After these four specials, the LCA and Clokey Productions began funding another series of episodes in 1969, to begin airing in 1971. At this point, only Norma MacMillan and Hal Smith did voices. In these episodes, Davey was junior high-school aged, and occasionally became disobedient, a very different characterization than the original. Norma MacMillan continued to do the voice of Davey. During this period, racism, gangs, conservation, crime and other serious, timely issues became topics for the series. Episodes included "Blind Man's Bluff", "Finders Keepers", "Who's George?", "Who Me?", "Help!" and "The Stopped Clock". The openings were also changed, featuring updated music. Background music was changed back to The Capitol Hi-Q music of the 1960s series. Midway through this series, Davey's black friend Jonathan Reed was introduced. Jonathan came from a nearby city, and both characters went to school together. In 1971, another 30-minute special, "School... Who Needs It?", was aired. Also that year, the final regular series of episodes was produced. Jonathan appeared in most of the episodes. 1972's episodes included "Whatshisname?", "The Zillion Dollar Combo", and "Chicken". In 1973, production on the series wound down once again, but in 1975 a 30-minute summer special called "To The Rescue" was aired. This special marked the official end of the production of the series.

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1961 release into syndication

The article listed, without reference, "January 1, 1960" as the debut date for the show, apparently based on the idea that the show was created in 1960 and that January 1 was the first day of that year. However, there is no record of the syndicated show earlier than 1961. The earliest mention of Davey and Goliath was in February 1961, when it was hailed as a new offering for children, and the earliest airdate seems to have been on Saturday, February 25. I've updated the article with the citations. Mandsford 16:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Free

Ordering the series

In 1961, the series of these four episodes began airing free on local television stations nationwide, ranging from ABC, NBC and CBS Network affiliates to independent stations.

I'm sure the author meant this in the sense it was freely available or the viewers could see if for free rather than it was free to the stations -- anyone? MartinSFSA (talk) 14:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• According to [1], the show was indeed initially provided free to the local stations. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:27, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Simpsons Gravey and Jobriath

The Simpsons Parodie is missing 2003:DC:C738:2211:C0E5:5B47:E7E8:4BE7 (talk) 09:07, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

WP:SOFIXIT? Just be sure to include a source that illustrates that the parody attracted some level of attention, per WP:IPCV. DonIago (talk) 17:31, 25 December 2021 (UTC)