Talk:David Rovics

Latest comment: 1 year ago by KetchupSalt in topic Is Atzmon a white nationalist?

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Uncited claims in BLP

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The claim “Rovics has been accused of antisemitism and Holocaust denial due to having interviewed…” seems to have no sourcing. The claim he had interviewed certain individuals has sourcing, but there appears to be no sourcing for the “accused of” claims. Harmful claims about a living person should be particularly well-sources, not included with no source. This should be removed. Information on significant interviews could remain without including unsourced opinion statements about them. SM-Mara (talk) 15:54, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Worse, the "source" is anonymous and the accusation amounts to guilt by association. This also despite Rovics being a Jew. KetchupSalt (talk) 14:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Have edited the section. BobFromBrockley (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yeah this seems more accurate. I was going to object that Rovics does consider Heimbach to be a fascist, but on his blog he calls Heimbach a "former" rightwinger and says that he's "not a fascist"[1]. Personally I think Rovics gives Heimbach way too much benefit of the doubt, seemingly because Heimbach is a person. Interestingly Heimback seems to identify as a nazbol these days. If Rovics reads this then I would suggest he reevaluate his opinion about this one fan of his. KetchupSalt (talk) 13:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

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  1. ^ Rovics, David (16 July 2021). "The Campaign Against Me". This Week with David Rovics. Archived from the original on 17 July 2021. Retrieved 17 July 2021.

Is Atzmon a white nationalist?

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Just a minor quibble about the wording in the accusation section. It makes it seems like Atzmon is a white nationalist, which as far as I can tell isn't the case. The Gilad Atzmon article only says that he appears in WN media, which is kinda sus as the kids say, but is probably not enough to label him a WN, especially if he does not self-describe as such. I tried rewording the section a bit to clarify this but it became very awkward. The associations with WN, Holocaust denial and antisemitism are certainly accurate for Barrett and (at the time) Heimbach, unless I've missed something. KetchupSalt (talk) 13:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Also it may be worthwhile to mention that Rovics is a critic of the tactic of deplatforming. KetchupSalt (talk) 13:34, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply