Talk:Declarative memory
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![]() | A merger from Explicit memory to Declarative memory was proposed. After 9 months, the consensus was against. 06:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC) |
![]() | A merger from Declarative memory to Explicit memory was proposed. After 2 years and 5 months, the consensus was merge. 17:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC) |
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New proposed merger with Explicit memory
editHello,
I took the liberty to ask for a merger again. I understand that you probably have reasons to keep them distinct, but in this case please explain.
This very article says that they are synonyms, as well as others on related topics (eg Effects of stress on memory). GuitarDemon, you have good points, but if this is true please
- precise sources;
- explain it in the article, not in the Talkpage.
Please also see the comment by FrozenMan below.
Cheers, a very interested, although quite confused, reader: Thouny (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
I want to chime in, in support of Thouny's new merger proposal. In the seminal publication "The structure and organization of memory"[1], the case is clear: explicit memory and declarative memory are the same thing. All declarative memories are explicit (the idea of a declarative memory being implicit is a contradiction), and all explicit memories are declarative by definition. There is no difference between these, and Wikipedia's separation of these is misleading. Benmotz (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Proposed merger with Explicit memory
editWithin biology, the term "explicit memory" is more commonly used than "declarative memory".
- I think they should be merged into this one.--Jeiki Rebirth 22:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Since neurology per definition is referred to the branch of medicine that studies/deals with somatic illness in the nervous system, it is technically wrong to talk about "the neurology of declarative memory" in general. This is why I changed the title to "neuropsychology", which anyway is traditionally the most common branch of science studying biological foundation of memory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.165.60.60 (talk • contribs) 01:41, May 20, 2006
Declarative memory and explicit memory are, while similar, quite different. declarative memory not only deals with experiences but also with facts. for instance, you can remember that something has happened which is basically episodic memory included in explicit memory and declarative) but you can also remember that something can happen as a recalled fact (semantic) which is a type of declarative memory, not explicit. as seperate terms in psychology, declarative and explicit should remain seperate articles on wikipedia, but by all means can each could be mentioned briefly in eachother's articles to help clarify for some people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GuitarDemon16:36, September 30, 2006 (talk • contribs) |
This merge is a DEFINITE bad idea. They have overlap but are DIFFERENT catagorizationsthuglasT|C 04:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The problem is, as they stand, neither the explicit memory nor the declarative memory pages tell the difference between the two. The page for declarative memory even goes so far as to say that explicit memory is just another word for declarative memory. Either the pages list the differences between the two, or the two articles, which as of now really talk about the same thing, should be merged. --Mirek2 (talk) 09:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
As far as I know, declarative memory IS a synonym for explicit memory, and every book, article, and website I've read on the subject refers to it as such. --Mirek2 (talk) 09:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Declarative memory is generally a subdivision of Explicit Memory... Stevenmitchell (talk) 13:24, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Searching problem
editWhy don't I find this page when I search for "declaritive memory"? How do I fix this?--Jeiki Rebirth 22:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Because you misspelled "declarative memory." Stevenmitchell (talk) 04:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Proposed Example
editHow about using "The apple that I ate during my last visit home was very tasty" (or something like this) an example for episodic memory? This would help the reader understand the difference better. wneo (talk) 07:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hierarchy?
editI am a Neuroscience Major at Middlebury College. I am taking a Physiological Psychology class, and I am confused as to the hierarchy of "declarative" and "explicit" memories. The template at the bottom of the page puts them on the same level (along with "procedural" and "implicit" memories), but this is just confusing! I figured I would see what the discussion about merging the two articles was saying, but it appears as though some people use the terms in slightly different ways and are therefore opposed to merging the pages. That having been said, if the two terms are indeed different approaches to explaining memory, then they should not use the same subcategories (i.e. "episodic" and "semantic" memories). If they are part of the same model, however, then people need to agree on where the boundaries of one ends and the next begins. It would be helpful for someone to devise a flowchart to explain the agreed upon hierarchical structure, otherwise one term should be selected and used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrozenMan (talk • contribs) 00:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
basis for semantic/episodic memory
edit"Episodic memory is believed by many to be the system that supports and underpins semantic memory" it's the other way around right? Episodic memory has developed from semantic memory?
"The theory holds that episodic memory evolved out of semantic memory: Semantic memory appeared long before episodic memory." -Tuving EPISODIC MEMORY: From Mind to Brain Annu. Rev. Psychol. 2002. 53:1–25
Comprehension issues
editThe "Types" Section needs to be edited. It just makes no sense.
24.6.133.25 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:30, 4 December 2011 (UTC).
- ^ Squire, L. R., Knowlton, B., & Musen, G. (1993). The structure and organization of memory. Annual review of psychology, 44(1), 453-495.