Talk:Dinosaur (1980 film)

Were the Fred Savage scenes slapped on years later?

I don't think Savage could have played a schoolboy in 1980. He was only 4 years old at the time. I've seen the film; in the scenes featuring Savage, he looks about 9 years old. Perhaps the claymation scenes were produced in 1980 and the Fred Savage sequences were added to the VHS release years later.

You'll also notice that the actor who portrays the voice of they young boy in the claymation scenes is clearly not Fred Savage.

I think you're absolutely right. The video was released in 1987 by Golden Books Video. Plus, Vinton Studios was very popular during 1987-'88, so that's perfect timing. I'm going to redo this article. Cale 02:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Two-in-one article

For those interested, this article works as the informational home of two films: Will Vinton's 17-minute claymation short entitled Dinosaur circa 1980 and the 30-minute video it was included in in 1987, entitled Dinosaurs! - A Fun-Filled Trip Back in Time!. The article originally went by the title of Vinton's 1980 film (Dinosaur (1980 film) and Dinosaur (1980 movie)) yet immediately focused on the 1987 video release, so I redirected article names to this version, adding more information as well as the video case photo which I took myself. If there are any disputes regarding this being a sort of two-in-one article, or the desire to give the 17-minute short its own article, please let them be known. Cale 07:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Composer

Anyone know who the composer was? Charmer did the rock song but I’m curious who composed the classical music. 2603:8001:3542:6FDF:6C99:5F3E:CE2:AB78 (talk) 04:45, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 19:31, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

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Dinosaurs! – A Fun-Filled Trip Back in Time! → Dinosaur (1980 film) – "Dinosaur" is the title of the 1980 original short, "Dinosaurs!" is an extended reissue - (plus: "A Fun-Filled Trip Back in Time!" is a tagline, not a subtitle) E-Kartoffel (talk) 04:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Dr. Vogel (talk) 13:48, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi. It does seem like we need to get rid of the tagline. But what's the rationale for having 1 article instead of 2? And if we're only going to have 1 article, what's the rationale for using the name of the first of the 2 films as you propose instead of the second? Dr. Vogel (talk) 13:14, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

This move should be reverted, which may invalidate this whole request. I whole heartedly disagree that Dinosaurs! should redirect to Dinosaur since it doesn't make sense per WP:SMALLDETAILS with the exclamation point being sufficient for title disambiguation. Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

After further consideration, it seem like the major fix I need to be done was retargeting Dinosaurs! to Dinosaur (disambiguation) instead of targeting Dinosaur, so I made that change (after reverting the moves to put everything back at the previous status quo after I stopped agreeing with it.) Steel1943 (talk) 21:13, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

...That, and if anything, this article should probably move may actually need to be moved to Dinosaurs! (1980 film) (Dinosaurs! (film) may need to be created first) or something like that so it includes the exclamation point. All in all, I still believe this request should just be straight up denied and/or revised since there is probably the need to determine the WP:COMMONNAME between "Dinosaur" and "Dinosaurs!". Steel1943 (talk) 20:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Comment revised. Steel1943 (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

(I guess) it is undisputable that the 1980 film is called "Dinosaur" (look at the title screen), and the title screen of the 1980 film appears in the 1987 video as well. Both films are seen als "the clay animation film by Will Vinton", although the 1987 video is directed by Ray Cioni, who isn't even mentioned in the wiki-article, that is why I called the 1987 video an extended version of "Dinosaur" (1980) – plus: the 1987 film uses a screenshot of the 1980 film for the VHS cover.... E-Kartoffel (talk) 10:44, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

The article seems to be about the 1987 film (which includes the 1980 film), not primarily the 1980 film. I think this needs to have a full WP:RM discussion. Technical Requests isn't the right forum. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:41, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Film has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Animation has been notified of this discussion. UtherSRG (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

• Support. At bare minimum, get rid of the tagline. For media of all sorts, we tend to go with the original names, not later renames, unless independent reliable source usage overwhelmingly prefers the latter.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Shwcz (talk) 20:16, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Comment Edit history of Dinosaur (1980 film) 19:26, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

09:14, 1 January 2010‎ Xqbot talk contribs block‎ m  60 bytes +2‎  Robot: Fixing double redirect to Dinosaurs! – A Fun-Filled Trip Back in Time! rollback: 1 editundo
19 February 2007
21:59, 19 February 2007‎ RussBot talk contribs block‎ m  58 bytes +23‎  Robot: Fixing double-redirect -"Dinosaurs (1980 film)" +"Dinosaurs! - A Fun-Filled Trip Back in Time!" undo
30 August 2006
14:28, 30 August 2006‎ Mikevas19 talk contribs block‎  35 bytes +35‎  moved Dinosaur (1980 film) to Dinosaurs (1980 film): thats the real title thank

So hopefully this RM will lead to stability. Andrewa (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Post move

There is some work now needed to MOSify the article lead following the move, as it's now at the original title not the more recent official name. I'm not quite sure of the best phrasing so help appreciated. Andrewa (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2022 (UTC)