Talk:Donda 2/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: FormalDude (talk · contribs) 09:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I will post comments here as I complete the review, which may take up to seven days. ––FormalDude talk 09:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments

• Per WP:CITELEAD, please source the last sentence of the lead that is potentially controversially.
• Wikilink pirated in the lede to Music piracy.
• Remove or replace citation #4 per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Asian_News_International.
• Remove record executive and.
• Track listing sub-sections 'Uncredited features' and 'Samples' both needs references for each bullet.
  •  Done for the above --K. Peake 10:41, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
• The first paragraph of the Music and themes section would more fitting in the Critical reception section. The last two sentences of the first paragraph at least should be moved.
  •  Comment: this info has been included here so the album's musical style is properly described and I have rephrased parts now, does it look any better-suited? --K. Peake 11:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
    • The last two sentences still seem to be critiques rather than commentary on the music or theme. I'll leave it up to you though. ––FormalDude talk 16:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
      • I removed the word "mettilicous" from the last sentence but the penultimate one does not seem like a critique, as it is a fact that the album has been called by the release team as a work in progress. --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
        • @Kyle Peake: Which source says the release team called the album a work in progress? ––FormalDude talk 12:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• The statement from the co-inventor that West intends to update the album is expressing a very similar point to this --K. Peake 13:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• Citation 1 missing authors.
  •  Done --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Citation 5 is dated Jan 4 but source appears to be dated Jan 3.
  •  Done not sure who added that --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Citation 6, 18, 19, 32, 35, 38, 42, and 48 missing wikilinks to Complex Networks.
  •  Not done per MOS:LINK2SECT, I directed Complex to the redirect to the relevant section for the online magazine, also see MOS:REFLINK to understand for this and the other instances that wikilinking more than once is not required. --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
    • @Kyle Peake: MOS:REFLINK states Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=[[The Guardian]]. I'm fine with linking to the relevant section for the online magazine instead, but I'd prefer they all be wikilinked. ––FormalDude talk 13:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• Nowhere at the guideline does it say links need to be repeated --K. Peake 18:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• FormalDude I would also like to mention that I have been told to remove repeated wikilinks for citations in the past, so this would potentially lead to back and forth debates, also are there any more comments you have left? --K. Peake 10:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

• Citation 42 missing author and date.
  •  Done --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Citation 9 missing wikilink to Pitchfork (website).
• Citation 10 missinig wikilinks to HotNewHipHop.
• Citation 11 and 23 missing wikilinks to Pitchfork (website).
• Citations 12 and 13 missing wikilinks to Rolling Stone.
• Citations 14, 16, 24, and 50 missing wikilinks to NME.
• Citation 34 missing wikilink to HipHopDX.
• Citation 36, 39, and 52 missing wikilinks to Billboard (magazine).
• Remove or paraphrase Donda 2 is the eleventh studio album by American rapper Kanye West. It was made available exclusively through West's Stem Player service, with the first four tracks being released on February 23, 2022. as copyright violation from https://noti.st/donda-2-album.
  •  Done even though the copyvio match was just over 20% anyway, which is considered an acceptable score. --K. Peake 09:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Spelling: eligiblity→eligibility.
  •  Done --K. Peake 11:53, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• In this sentence: "Due to the audio device having other functions than streaming Donda 2, the album is unable to enter any Billboard charts per the eligiblity rules." both the source you used and another source I found [1] say that it was unable to chart because albums sold with merchandise are not chart eligible.
  •  Done if this looks alright? --K. Peake 11:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
    • Great! ––FormalDude talk 12:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Wikilink Emulators.
• American English: theatres→theaters.
• MOS: livestreamed→live-streamed and livestream→live-stream.
• Spelling: tracklist→track list.
• Spelling: fanbase→fan base.
  •  Done for the above --K. Peake 11:53, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Suggest making paragraph 2 of the Promotion and release section it's own subsection titled "Concert debut" or something similar, and moving it to the bottom of the Promotion and release section.
  •  Done used the title concert event --K. Peake 13:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
• Change "Stem Player co-inventor Alex Klein tweeted..." to "The co-inventor of the Stem Player tweeted...".
  •  Comment: why should I remove his name? --K. Peake 13:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
    • It's not necessary to name a non-notable person. ––FormalDude talk 13:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

•  Done --K. Peake 18:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Review

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

✓ Pass GA. ––FormalDude talk 18:57, 10 March 2022 (UTC)