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Inception
editYes, I know it's a stub. Please add info on your state (and refine dates if possible). I am hoping to come back tomorrow to find more new states than condemnationsJeffryfisher (talk) 02:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorting
editI've started inserting dry states in order. I haven't figured out yet whether they can be added out of order and told to sort themselves. Jeffryfisher (talk)
- Yes they can. That functionality already exists in the table. Shadowjams (talk) 03:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Article for each state?
editA new tag has appeared asking for info about each state's liquor laws. I find this ironic because I originally started this as a "list of dry states" separate from the clutter of an over-length article about temperance in the US.
Maine already had its own article when I started this page. I linked to it from the name "Maine" in the table. I think that, rather than including 50 other states' stories here, it would be better to extend the model of spawning a separate article for each and then linking both ways. That way, the list will stay clean as a hub. Jeffryfisher (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Merge
editI think it'd be best to condense this information in the repeal article especially since all state level dry level laws were repealed in aftermath of the national law.St8fan (talk) 19:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. States were "dry" prior to Prohibition. Vermont once was, for example. Undoubtedly others.
Italics?
editIs there a reason why some dates are in italics?Jtyroler (talk) 08:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- No. I rm them. Thanks for pointing that out. Student7 (talk) 16:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Iowa Prohibition
editFrom my reading, prohibition in Iowa was passed in 1882[1] , but only went into effect in 1884[2] and was reversed by Muct Law in 1891[3]. There was also an alleged exception in "Clark's Law"[4] which allowed illegal sales of alcohol in Sioux City, in exchange for a fine.
- EDIT Iowa's history is complicated. In 1855, hard liquor was outlawed, but beer and cider were allowed to be produced and sold[5]. Later, on June 27, 1882, an amendment was passed by popular voted banning the sale and production of alcohol[6][7]. In January 1883, the amendment was struck down by the Iowa Supreme Court[8][9]. On July 4 1884, following the passage of a new prohibitory law, alcohol sales were banned[10]. During this period, various communities (Sioux City, Davenport, Council Bluffs) chose to ignore this act, or pass their own, paying fines in exchange for illegal activities. In 1894, the Mulct Act allowed for local communities to regulate alcohol sales, not rescinding Mulct, but giving a 'local option'[11][12]. By my reading, this is what established local liquor licensing statewide. This act was used and abused for a long time, and I'm not really sure how the issue was legislatively resolved following this. There were other acts limiting prohibition, and some blue laws. Anyways, I'm not sure how to record this on the page Thegeniusboy05 (talk) 00:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Sioux City's Prohibition Past Fascinates Historians". 10/02/11. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite news}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "Iowa City Beer Riots of 1884". Little Villiage Magazine. 3/26/13. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite news}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "Prohibition Rule: Murder in Sioux City". Wild West Magazine. 10/01/1998. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "Prohibition Rule: Murder in Sioux City". Wild West Magazine. 10/01/1998. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "The Prohibition Years" (PDF). Davenport Shooting Association. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=(help) - ^ "The Prohibition Years" (PDF). Davenport Shooting Association. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=(help) - ^ "Sioux City's Prohibition Past Fascinates Historians". 10/02/11. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite news}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "The Prohibition Years" (PDF). Davenport Shooting Association. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=(help) - ^ "Iowa City Beer Riots of 1884". Little Villiage Magazine. 3/26/13. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite news}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help) - ^ "The Prohibition Years" (PDF). Davenport Shooting Association. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=(help) - ^ "The Prohibition Years" (PDF). Davenport Shooting Association. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=(help) - ^ "Prohibition Rule: Murder in Sioux City". Wild West Magazine. 10/01/1998. Retrieved 3/27/13.
{{cite web}}: Check date values in:|accessdate=and|date=(help)
Date sorting
editTo get the dates to sort in chronological order, they need to be in a consistent format, such as 1915-7-1 for July 1, 1915. I'm adding more states to the list so I can make this change. Is this ok? Rosalina523 (talk) 20:26, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- I confess that is needed to make the sort work correctly. Let the record show that we knew what the standard US format for dates was, but it had to be ignored for this purpose! :) Student7 (talk) 18:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Effective date
editSince an effective date is the one when a state actually went "dry", and it often differs from the day a state prohibition law was passed, I'll use the effective date when updating the list. To make sure the dates are consistent - effective vs passage of the state law - that may mean updating a couple of dates on this list. Ok? Rosalina523 (talk) 20:37, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
More than one dry date per state
editSome states went dry, then the state repealed it, then went dry again. Iowa is a good example. How do you want to handle those? I'd suggest using the most recent effective date and use footnotes to explain the earlier dates? Other suggestions? Rosalina523 (talk) 20:44, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- Worse yet, this usually wasn't the 20th century. So sometimes the law was ignored. Vermont for example. Enforced some places. Drifted into ignoring in most places. Student7 (talk) 18:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Alcohol Sales Reinstated in State of Georgia in 1935
editCan anyone verify that State of Georgia repealed prohibition on alcohol sales in 1935? I found an article from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that talks about AJC Deja News: Thirsty Fulton voters OK alcohol sales (1935). Rjluna2 (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2019 (UTC)