Talk:Easter Monday

Day of Obligation

The article says that Easter Monday is a Roman Catholic Holy day of Obligation in Germany. This doesn't sound right to me; I was under the impression that there is a single set of days of obligation in the Roman Catholic faith and not some that are observed in one country and some in another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.245.59.15 (talk) 14:07, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

The impression you're under is incorrect. See Day of obligation#Latin-Rite observance by country. Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Ireland

How is there no section on Ireland here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.68.156 (talk) 01:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Poland

The tradition of throwing water in Poland is dying. And €110 fines for doing it are helping. Though quite warm and dry this monday was a dry easter monday in the cities. Dyngus was mainly done in villages and among private parties. I think the dying of the tradition should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.151.129 (talk) 11:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

POV rewrite necessary

It seems like the Polish, Czech and Slovak celebrations with water and whips are part of the same ancient slavic tradition. This article needs a re-write so that it's clear that this is not some uniquely Polish activity. Here are some sources that outline similar celebrations in each of the three countries. Maybe the custom extends further than these three countries, but it definitely extends further than Poland.

• Ember, Carol R. (2004). Encyclopedia of sex and gender: men and women in the world's cultures. New York City: Kluwer Academic Press/Plenum Publishers. p. 382. ISBN 0-306-47770-X. OCLC 186434954. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
• Montley, Patricia (2005). In Nature's Honor: Myths And Rituals Celebrating The Earth. Boston: Skinner House Books. p. 56. ISBN 1-55896-486-X. OCLC 58468310.
• Knab, Sophie Hodorowicz (1993). Polish customs, traditions, and folklore. New York City: Hippocrene Books. pp. 106–110. ISBN 0-7818-0068-4. OCLC 26722767.

  —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 18:33, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Who was the ..... who wrote that palmy wielkanocne are being used or that. Palmy wielkanocne usualy are kept throuh till before ash wendesday and are bunrn to obtain ash used in church. Palmy wielkanocne are blessed on palm sunday and therefore it is prohibited to use them that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.27.100 (talk) 00:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Here's one about celebrations in Hungary:

• Hand, Wayland Debs (1981). Popular beliefs and superstitions: a compendium of American folklore: from the Ohio Collection of Newbell Niles Puckett. Boston: G.K. Hall. p. 978. ISBN 0-8161-8585-9. OCLC 7614302. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

  —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 14:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Old discussion

Is Easter Monday a Christian holiday? I know of no specific event ceblebrated say in the Methodist Church or similar non-conformist churches. Linuxlad (sorry, can't find mi tildes).

I'm tempted to remove your addition to the article because:

• Your statement here implies that you only have knowledge of the practices of non-conformist Methodist Churches in the US
• You've added an important distinction as a parenthetical statement instead of as a clarifying subordinate clause to the opening sentence
• You've misspelled "Protestant"
• You can't "find" all the keys on your keyboard

However, I also know that Easter Monday is not an official holy day in mainline Presbyterian Churches, congregations of the Southern Baptist Convention, or the Roman Catholic Church. The celebrations mentioned in the article seem all to be continuations of pre-Christian fertility rituals, and the map implies that these celebrations are extremely localized. Therefore, we have to repeat your first question to the world at large: is it a Christian holiday? From what has been presented in the article, it really seems that it isn't. I think a rewrite is needed. Can someone with extensive knowledge of this please tackle this? For now, I'm going to alter the first two sentences to indicate that this is a celebration in largely Christian areas of the world. Canonblack 12:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm in the UK (which is why I can't find tilde on my wife's Windows laptop, which has an incorrectly-mapped US layout). I'd expect a holiday which could be asserted as 'Christian' (ie without further qualification), in the Easter season, to have a 'holy day' equivalent in all churches which celebrate Easter at this time. (The UK churches have a fairly common Easter calendar, closely tied to the Easter narrative; incidentally, rereading your note, I think we may be using 'Non-Conformist' in different ways).

On a personal level, this time of year is a busy time for local politics in the UK, but I always avoid canvassing on Good Friday and Easter Day - I have no such inhibitions about Easter Monday, which is 'just a' day off for tired bankers. Since I'm back on my Linux box I can now sign as Linuxlad 13:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Wow do much? Dumb.

Easter Monday in North Carolina

According to [1] and [2], Easter Monday is not a holiday observed by the state of North Carolina, and I can't find any sources stating that it is. Having lived in North Carolina for most of my life, I'm pretty sure that it isn't an official state holiday. Tony 13:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I grew up in North Carolina, started school there in '48, left in 1959. Easter Monday was definitely a and IIRC, the only, work week holiday for Easter. Good Friday was not observed. Too religious, too Catholic, or something like that. Amanda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.123.47 (talk) 03:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Article claims that it's due to a traditional baseball game between NCState and Wake Forest --come on, really? Can anyone find any citation for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.99.66 (talk) 02:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

several cites for Wake State baseball game and relation to Easter Monday holiday http://www.alumniblog.ncsu.edu/2010/03/19/looking-back-at-easter-monday-baseball/ and http://www.amazon.com/The-Easter-Monday-Baseball-Game/dp/0786474521 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF34:3570:BC27:9F78:51CA:592F (talk) 22:15, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps replace "Christian cultural traditions" with "European cultural traditions"

A day that's not on the offical Catholic calendar probably shouldn't be called part of the Christian cultural conventions, especally considering that many traditions that take place on Easter itself pre-date Christanity. Joncnunn 18:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

The celebrations are not limited to Europe. There is sufficient info in the article already about North American practices to show that (though many are, admittedy transplanted from Europe). However, the Middle East has had indigenous Christian populations for over two thousand years, and they celebrate Easter Monday. The same applies to Coptic Christians (Egypt, Ethiopia, Eritrea) and the other Oriental Orthodox (including the Church of the East).

HOW ABOUT IRELAND?? The Easter Rebellion was started on Easter Monday 1916! The G.P.O., Michael Collins, Patrick Pearse, Eamon DeVallera. The British foolishly turned an unpopular uprising into their eventual losing of their empire, by executing some of the I.R.B. leadership. Kind of big in history fellows. User: Diggerjohn111 6:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Chile

Easter Monday doesn't exist in Chile but the map you have there, and the list of countries, claims it is holiday. --Alejandro Mery 23:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Easter Monday is not a statutory holiday in Canada -- most Quebec employers give the day off, and some employers in other provinces. However, the majority of businesses do operate on Easter Monday, so Canada's inclusion in the list is misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.173.231 (talk) 20:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Countries that get the holiday

Traveling around I have found the following Easter Monday exists in Italy. Things are closed and the Trains are running on the holiday schedules. (My wife is there today 3/24/08)

I lived in Ontario, Canada for three years. We always got Good Friday off as a National Holiday but never Easter Monday. The Canada Government web page does list it as a National holiday. http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/jfa-ha/index_e.cfm

Giovanni Valentino

I know for having lived in these countries that France, Germany, and Switzerland are on official holidays both on Good Friday and Easter Monday. Stores are closed, public transportation on the slow schedule, etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.193.57.202 (talk) 12:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

List of countries

Formatting the list of countries into a series of columns would make that section of the article look much better. I don't know how to do it, but I'm assuming that someone here does. 4.239.249.135 (talk) 19:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Done, and way overdue. - Dravecky (talk) 01:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Why are Germany and the Netherlands listed under "Elsewhere in the world" instead of "Central Europe"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.199.199.169 (talk) 13:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

New versus Old

My father, who was born and raised on a farm in Poland, and who only arrived in the US after the WWII, told us that Dyngus Day was really a week-long celebration and a passage into Spring; the end of the Lenten season (with all it’s fasting), and the end of Winter (with all the snow and freezing temperatures). He told us that the "soaking" with water was more of a sprinkling, a carryover from a Priestly blessing, as parents and children, brothers and sisters, and especially youths of the opposite sex would tease each other. (The latter more in a flirtatious vein than that of sheer terror. Remember, the seasonal temperatures would not be much above the 40’s, and soaking someone would not only be rude, but dangerous to the point of possibly causing a severe illness.) Pussy willows were also described by him as a flirtation device. They were to be tickled along the neck and ears, and in some risqué avenues, used to raise the girls’ skirts, and worse yet, to tickle their calves. (Oh, my!) All in all, these celebrations were short-lived. The hard work of living on a farm began anew with planting season just around the corner.

Hungary

Here in Hungary we have a tradition somewhat similar to what I read about the Polish one, but with some differences. Traditionally, boys poured well water on the girls while reciting a poem (usually about watering a flower to make it bloom). Today, boys and men sprinkle girls and women with perfume, and girls are expected to give the boys money, chocolate, or eggs. (At the end of the day, girls wash their hair at least twice to remove the smell of 20 different types of perfume).

A very common poem used is:

Zöld erdőben jártam / Kék ibolyát láttam / El akart hervadni /Szabad-e locsolni?

I walked in a green forest / I saw a blue violet / It wanted to wilt / May I water it?

Pthalo (talk) 19:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina - Easter Monday is not official holiday

In Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina (part of Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina) neither Western nor Eastern rite Easter Monday is not official holiday. People has the right to take up to four days off during year for their religious holidays, and this is also case with Easter Monday. I'm removing FBIH from the list of countries because of that, and additionally, it is not independent state but entity within Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.--Plantago (talk) 08:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Egg nyte

Is this a joke? It's also listed as the night before Halloween under Mischief Night. No sources 218.103.114.186 (talk) 10:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

"Central Europe"??? should be eastern Europe!

Except of the last part about Germany that section is entirely about eastern European countries. I know some people argue that since the Ural is the geographical border to Asia, Poland and Czech are rather central. But cultural and traditional the Slavic-speaking have always been eastern Europe. By more recent history eastern Europe are the countries that belonged to the Warsaw pact. No European in their right mind would call Poland, Czech, Slovakia and Hungary "Central Europe"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.134.84.12 (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Try Mitteleuropa then.Eregli bob (talk) 12:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Seeing no discussion over the past two years, I'm changing it to "Eastern and Central Europe". Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 10:45, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Inconsistent links to nations in "Official holiday" section

Some nations in this section have a link to their articles while most do not. Methinks this should be consistent, all nations or no nation being linked Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Seeing no comments for nearly three years, I'm supposing that I'm the only person with much an opinion. To solve the inconsistency I'm unlinking all countries since that's less work than linking all countries. Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 10:47, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Official holiday in the United States

In section 7, "United States", I read that Easter Monday was a public holiday in North Carolina from 1935 to 1987, and that some states and localities give the day off from school, and some other places have local celebrations. This suggests that Easter Monday is not a public holiday in the USA and so I will delete it from the list Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 10:42, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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