Talk:El Norte (film)
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Removal of Interview
editThe length of the interview seemed to violate copyright, so I removed it. If anyone can be sure it doesn't, please revert. --Impaciente 01:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Not a problem, I shortened it today and only quoted two sentences. Luigibob 13:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Fiction
editMy Spanish teacher recently showed us this film, and made it out to be a biography. Are these real people? It doesn't seem like it from the article. EgyptianSushi 03:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hi ESushi. No, the characters in the film are not real people. The story is fiction. As in the article Nava wrote the story by interviewing many Guatemalans who live in Los Angeles right around the time they were fleeing Guatemala due to political/ethnic persecution. There is a New York Times reference on that. Read some of the external links for more info. Best -- Luigibob 13:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Heh, I asked her today in class if she said it was autobiographical, and she said it was, and I told her it wasn't. And she didn't believe me and stated that she saw the guy (the character) on some talk show. She then ranted for 25 minutes about the falsities of the internet. EgyptianSushi 18:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- She's an idiot since I have a solid reference -- Luigibob (talk) 18:00, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Magic Realism
editWhatever Roger Ebert may say (sorry, didn't check the source yet), this film has definitely nothing to do with magic realism. Au contraire, it might be pretty well declared as an example for latinamerican social realism in film (especially the problem of the oppression of indigen people in Central American countries can be found there, too) Sadly enough, the article on social realism itself isn't that good, either, so I'll try to find some sources to correct both. Help is welcome, so if you know sources - especially for El Norte - that underline the aforementioned connection, I'ld be glad if you told me. -- Tcgit (talk) 02:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- The section only mentions "parts" of the film, not the film in its entirety. Not to much to fret about. Luigibob (talk) 04:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but even that isn't true. Ebert himself can (or wants to) give only one example (the butterflies); his second point in that paragraph, the "joyous use of color", sounds - to me - like some kind of a debasing (I hope the word fits?) view on the childlike "Mexican love for color". Therefore, I think to include a paragraph of its own about Magic Realism in this article is a bit too much, even more so as the parallels to Social Realism are ignored (which I inted to work on). That's all I wanted to say - no intention to 'fret'. -- Tcgit (talk) 15:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the lone sentence could be expanded ... I placed a couple of more references ... and her's another http://helios.hampshire.edu/~erHA/hacu234/elnorte.html Luigibob (talk) 19:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but even that isn't true. Ebert himself can (or wants to) give only one example (the butterflies); his second point in that paragraph, the "joyous use of color", sounds - to me - like some kind of a debasing (I hope the word fits?) view on the childlike "Mexican love for color". Therefore, I think to include a paragraph of its own about Magic Realism in this article is a bit too much, even more so as the parallels to Social Realism are ignored (which I inted to work on). That's all I wanted to say - no intention to 'fret'. -- Tcgit (talk) 15:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Inspiration for "El Norte"
editThe intro to the film on this Wiki page is simplistic. The film wasn't derived from Nava's personal experiences; if you watch the Special Features disc from the Criterion release, Anna and Nava discuss how they interviewed NUMEROUS immigrants about their experiences. The film is an amalgamation of these experiences (the rat tunnel scene, political violence experienced in Guatemala, etc.). Nava himself discusses how these Guatemalan immigrants were the inspiration for him making this film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shesists (talk • contribs) 02:41, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
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