Talk:En-Gedi Scroll

Radiocarbon dating

Radio-carbon dating of the scroll, as reported in the Science Advances article, gives third or fourth century C.E. NOT first century. William Ellison (talk) 10:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Images of the Virtual Unwrapping?

Are there no available images of the virtual unwrapping? After reading all the technical details of the virtual unwrapping, it's somewhat disappointing not to see the results. --184.64.102.148 (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

A bunch of websites use the same unwrapping image (using an American penny as scale). This site (https://www.livescience.com/56196-dead-sea-scroll-virtual-unwrapping.html) states the image has a Creative Commons License for non-commercial purposes. So perhaps it can be used on this wiki page. I don't know how to properly insert an image into the article, so perhaps someone else can. --184.64.102.148 (talk) 18:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

How much of the whole scroll has been virtually unwrapped?

Gary A. Rendsburg has written in ANE Today in 2018 that the scroll might contain one, two, or at the most three of the five books of Moses.

There is nothing in the crt article on the topic, leaving the reader to believe that the couple of dozen lines deciphered in 2015 (?) is all there is. I'll introduce Rendsburg's info, but unfortunately that post is gone, and ANET (ASOR's monthly e-newsletter), although perfectly RS (as is Rendsburg) is not the ideal source. Arminden (talk) 19:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

@Arminden: It's a poor report. Only a few chapters of Leviticus have been found, and the physical evidence is that the scroll started there. However, the outer layers of the original scroll are lost so their content is conjectural. The logic is that if only Pentateuch text was there and it started with Leviticus (the 3rd of 5 books), it must have contained 1-3 books. This is all in the "preliminary publication" of Segal et al.. Rendsburg is just repeating that claim and does not say that text other than Leviticus was actually found, see here. Zero^talk 03:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Zero0000! An important clarification. That protocol page is an excellent argument. I had worked a bit on Torah scroll in 2019, and since then others had made some radical alterations, making it maybe more readable, but deffinitely less accurate, removing some essential info, like the fact that by the 4th c. the concept of a one-scroll Pentateuch wasn't there yet. Possibly by chance, but maybe motivated by an attitude of religion and its rites being immovable and timeless. Arminden (talk) 08:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)