Talk:Endive

Image

I wonder why this image isn't being used... ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 01:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

That image (at right) isn't used in this article because it's Belgian endive, which is a different vegetable from a different species. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:40, 9 July 2012 (UTC) You're right, it is a different plant all together. In English there is no direct page of this. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andijvie This is the correct Dutch page for Andive. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witlof This is the correct Dutch page for what you refered to as Belgian endive (which name means white-leaf translated to english) It's related, but not the same plant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.249.74.79 (talk) 13:29, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Sunlight

So these plants grow sans sunlight by using stored energy from the roots, right?

Yes, that is one way of preparing the plant for consumption. They can also be grown in the field by a process of "earthing up" the the growing plants, i.e. banking the soil against them to ensure that the foliage remains in darkness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.229.98.62 (talk) 09:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Chicory/endive confusion

I have done my best to tidy up this page based on the (scientific) species rather than the common names. As such i have moved all information about the belgian endive to the chicory page as most reliable sources seem to list it as the species intybus not the endivia species. Otherwise we're going to end up with duplicate information on both pages. A lot of less reliable sites get this wrong. The image shown here is clearly intybus and if used should go on the chicory page Halon8 (talk) 15:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Origin

Good recent edits, unmixing the two species. Three problems with the "three theories" of the origin of endive:

• It's been put in word-for-word from the ref, and so looks like a copyvio – I have therefore commented it out for the moment. It needs rewording, unless the source has a suitable WP-style free redistribution licence.
• The ref is a secondary one, which itself gives two further references – but it is not clear which is the primary source for this particular information. Any ref in this article ought to be to the primary ref, or be in the form "primary ref, quoted in secondary ref".
• I am a little puzzled by the information itself, as with modern DNA analysis it ought to be easy enough to choose between the three theories. Are there any academic sources for this info?

Richard New Forest (talk) 17:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

An interesting and relevant paper: A.M. Kiers, T.H.M. Mes, R. van der Meijden, and K. Bachmann. A search for diagnostic AFLP markers in Cichorium species with emphasis on endive and chicory cultivar groups, Genome, 43, 2000, pp 470-476. Shows that Cichorium intybus forms a cluster with Cichorium spinosum, while Cichorium endivia clusters with Cichorim pumilum and Cichorium calvum. Cichorium bottae is separated from all the others, and is described (p 474) as being the only one of the wild species occurring outside the natural range of C intybus, and being endemic to Yemen and Saudi. Mention of hybridisation is limited to one cultivar (believed to be a hybrid of C intybus and C endivia). All this seems to rule out the first two theories, apparently leaving just the third as a possibility.

Are there any other relevant papers? Richard New Forest (talk) 21:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Frisée

The External Link to Frisée leads to an article about frisée lettuce, and doesn't mention endive or chicory. Is this what was intended? TonySever (talk) 02:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Taste

What does it taste like? Isn't that an important part of the description? Shankyouverymuch08 (talk) 02:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)