Talk:Faces of Death

Monkey scene

About that scene... was it merely staged or faked? That is, was there a monkey that was killed (and partially eaten) or not? I believe not, but then the description is lacking. Phiwum 16:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The scene was staged by using a live monkey at first. The mallots were rubber and the monkey was only lightly tapped twice in the film. The next shot is of a monkey's head that is clearly fake and they proceed to remove the brains. It's quite obvious it's not a real monkey's brain they are eating. In the latest mockumentary the director, in character, even states it was faked aswell as other scenes from the movies.Case 23:09, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I have changed the word "staged" to "faked". A staged scene might involve real events deliberately performed for the camera. "Faked" seems more appropriate here.Phiwum 08:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that the take where they remove the dead monkey's brains is fake. It looks absolutely convincing to me, and why should they laboriously construct a a realistic monkey head when they could simply use a dead monkey and a callous actor?

However the actors very probably didn't kill the monkey, nor eat the actual monkey brain but bits of Jell-o. Maikel (talk) 14:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

1978 or 1979 ?

There must be a mistake in IMDb. I clearly saw 1979 (like MCMLXXIX) in the end. --CodeMonk 21:4

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p at the US box office. Made in 1979 for the Japenese Market where it was a success allegedly outgrossing star wars. Aquarius picked up the film for distribution in the United States and released it in 1981. Years later a video followed. Surely it was be 1979. I'd say 1979 seems about right.Case 22:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Banned

In which countries is it banned?

There is a list on IMDB. [1] Fr0 23:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't see it...

Here ya' go; Certification: West Germany:18 (cut) / New Zealand:(Banned) / Australia:(Banned) / Finland:(Banned) / South Korea:18 (heavily cut) / UK:18 (cut) / USA:Not Rated / UK:(Banned) (1984-2003) / Norway:(Banned) (video rating)

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Fr0 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

So, like.....Aren't there people who have made their own faces of death that are sold in cult capacities or seen on the web, I mean, my friend's friend watches this crazy shit with head hackin, gun shootin and its also called faces of death...

There's various films of atrocities put on the web, mainly Al Queda executing prisoners, security camera footage of violent crimes/accidents, and racist groups attacking people. I suppose it's possible somebody could have collected some of those together and slapped the Faces Of Death name on it. Doubt it's official though 81.129.121.3 (talk) 16:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Part of the "Mondo film" fad

I have a problem with the Similar works section. The beginning of the article clearly states that the film is part of the Mondo film fad, whereas that section gives the impression that there 's just a handful of films in that kind of style, instead of quite a row of films with a special term for them. I guess it would be better to delete the "Similar works" section altogether and instead stressing the fact a bit more that the film can be seen as belonging to something like a genre. That list of films seems to me at best a selection of the most important mondo films and at worst some randomly chosen examples. --H.A.L. 22:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed --Case 23:20, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Mikita Brotmann, in her excellent book Offensive Films: Toward an Anthropology of Cinema Vomitif, designated the genre to which such films belong, "neo-Mondo". This includes, in addition to the eight Faces of Death films, Nick Bougas' Death Scenes series, the Traces of Death series, and similar fare. I would be inclined to agree with her, although her "neo-Mondo" subgenre and the orignal "Mondo" subgenre are very close, being distinct only in date of production and distribution techniques. 74.140.211.161 14:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Vietnam Napalm Bombing?

From the second paragraph:

"Famous scenes of death from the media are included, such as stock footage of a napalm bombing in Vietnam..."

Actually, there is footage of napalm bombing from Vietnam in "The Original Faces of Death." I believe it is shown in a later edition. I just finished watching the original, and it definitely isn't there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.120.98.119 (talk) 13:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Snuff

I never watched this film but the description says that some of the deaths are genuine, so, this film is considered a Snuff film, but there's no mention of it in this page, although the Snuff film page has a mention of this film. 189.18.111.29 (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Snuff movies involves actors that are killed on screen for the solely purpose of making the film, technically, Faces of Death is not a Snuff film, as all the real footage where not intended to be originally in the movie. 200.171.76.13 (talk) 21:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I see your point. There is a scene where a group of people are (portrayed as) having sex, and one of the partners is (portrayed as being) killed. That would be a snuff. Sliceofmiami (talk) 03:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Second unit?

Quote: Schwartz was also the second unit director, credited this time as "Johnny Getyerkokov".

I very much doubt they even had a second unit! They are only used on large productions. Also, it's by definition impossible for the main director to also be second unit director. Maikel (talk) 14:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Maikel (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

The real Conan le Cilaire?

Quote: In 2008 the makers of the Faces Of Death re-released the original Faces Of Death on DVD accompanied by a commentary with the real Conan Le Cilaire ...

The real Conan le Cilaire? So, who's he? Maikel (talk) 14:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

According to IMDb (and the improbability of this being a genuine name), Conan le Cilaire is merely a monicker for Schwartz. Maikel (talk) 14:48, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

So why isn´t there an article about John Alan Schwartz in WP? He is mentioned in the list of Night Rider episodes 2 times as script author, but i ask myself, if he is a fake too? He should be considered a commercially successful director and author, shouldn´t he?

Tags removed

I have removed the following tags:

• {{refimprove|date=January 2009}}
• {{Cleanup|date=December 2008}}

I consider the refimprove unnecessary because the article is referenced (although there could certainly be more references). The cleanup tag is simply not explained on the discussions page.

People, don't just slap tags on articles, they should be reserved for the more extreme cases or be argued for! Maikel (talk) 14:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Describing the scenes... and references to "known to be real" or "known to be fabricated"

I recommend a section detailing the scenes, with appropriate reference material that identifies the scenes as real or fake. This would be different than an IMDb list of scenes since it would include references to real or fake, something that would not be in the IMDb. Any other thoughts on this? Sliceofmiami (talk) 03:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Controversy

Deleted part referencing the "monkey brains" scene being related to a real practice; source was another Wiki article clearly stating that it's a myth prompted in part by this movie. Locbo (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

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Surfer vs. swimmer

Under "Production", there is the statement: "The only "real, unscripted" part of the film features a body of a dead surfer who had washed upon shore as filmmakers were filming B-roll of litter for the pollution sequence nearby and beachgoers started a commotion."

However, when I read what is said in the article quoted as the source of this information, it contradicts the fact it was a surfer: "What they found was a drowned man, who had apparently been missing for a couple of days after deciding to go for a swim while intoxicated."

I don't know if this warrants a change or not, so I am offering it up here. Reub80 (talk) 16:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)