Talk:Fagus sylvatica

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Most of this article's content was translated from fr:Hêtre following the request below at Wikipedia:Translation into English.

• Article: fr:Hêtre
• Corresponding English-language article: European beech
• Worth doing because: Material to incorporate into English-language article (+ pictures)
• Originally Requested by: Bogdangiusca 19:29, 7 Feb 2004
• Status: In progress Nathan 13:44, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
• Other notes: Most of the information in fr:Hêtre corresponds to the European beech rather than the originally requested Beech.

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I'm not sure about capitalizing all of these tree names. I referred to Oak when I first wrote them un-capitalized, as that is how they appear there. If there is a policy to capitalize the names, that article needs work as well. Nathan 19:47, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

There isn't a current hard-and-fast policy, but the majority preference as discussed on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life is for capitalisation of individual species names (e.g. European Beech), but not for generic citations (e.g. beeches, oaks) - MPF 15:35, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Arctic beeches

In an old garden in Lurøy (Rennesansehagen), located exactly at the arctic circle, is an 19 meter tall copper beech [1], and there is one 100 km north of the Arctic circle at Steigen Bygdetun in Steigen as well. There are probably many more, but these are fairly large and located in public places. There are lots of beeches in Trondheim; one European beech in Ringve Botanical Garden was presented as the second largest tree in Trondheim by circumference (4.35 m at chest hight - the largest was an European Ash) by the local newspaper Adresseavisen.

Change taxobox image

I think the current image in the taxobox is not good for that purpose, as the big trunks in the photo are not of beech. Beech trunks can be seen only in the background. The Sonian Forest photo is very impressive. Perhaps it could be changed to the taxobox? Krasanen (talk) 09:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Rohan?

I'm looking for information about the "Rohan" subspecies, Fagus sylvatica Rohanii. Could someone add this? 174.24.50.139 (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

It's unlikely to be notable enough to warrant more than a simple listing in the article. My Hillier manual describes 'Rohanii' as a purple-leaved cultivar of fern-leaved beech (the Heterophylla Group); it's described as "A remarkably beautiful, rather slow-growing tree", if that helps at all? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

"Distribution and habitat"

Moved content here from main page, following discussion of beeches growing among oaks:

Foresters may assure the oaks' survival by cutting young beeches with a billhook 10 cm off the ground, which can produce magnificent bonsai.

Passage lacking citation, with non-neutral point of view. Can anyone provide a source? Much of the rest of this section needs better citations as well.

--Coconutporkpie (talk) 22:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Toxic substances

See also: Talk:Beech § Nut toxicity

Raw nuts are reportedly toxic due to the presence of an alkaloid (or saponin) called fagin (or fagine):

• Crellin, J. K.; Philpott, Jane (1990). A Reference Guide to Medicinal Plants. Duke University Press. p. 83. ISBN 0822310198.
• CABI (2013). The CABI Encyclopedia of Forest Trees. CABI. p. 206. ISBN 1780642369.
• Duke, James A. (2000). Handbook of Nuts: Herbal Reference Library. CRC Press. p. 160. ISBN 0849336376.
• fagine - Oxford English Dictionary

I haven't found formulas for "fagin" itself yet; however, here're some formulas for some Fagus alkaloids:

• Southon, Ian W.; Buckingham, John (1989). Dictionary of Alkaloids, Second Edition with CD-ROM. CRC Press. p. 542. ISBN 0412249103.

--Djadjko (talk) 00:39, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Taxonomy

According to (even not so) recent and consolidated taxonomy, Fagus orientalis is now classified as subspecies of Fagus sylvatica:

• Denk, T., 1999. The taxonomy of Fagus in western Eurasia, 1: Fagus sylvatica subsp. orientalis (= F. orientalis). Feddes Repertorium 110(3-4): 177-200.
• Denk, T., Grimm, G., Stögerer, K., Langer, M., & Hemleben, V., 2002. The evolutionary history of Fagus in western Eurasia: Evidence from genes, morphology and the fossil record. Plant Systematics and Evolution 232(3-4), 213-236.

Merging the two separated pages of W-Eurasian beeches could be considered? Giovanni Caudullo (talk) 13:57, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

fastigiate (columnar) forms

Please add text and photos about the fastigiate (columnar) forms. These are very important for modern urban domesticated uses. Some amount of detail about the history of breeding these cultivars would be welcome.-71.174.190.122 (talk) 15:58, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Copper beech

Perhaps the 'copper beech' might warrant its own page as Copper beech (tree) – or as a replacement for the present disambiguation page 'Copper beech' which could be moved to the current redirect Copper beech (disambiguation). The related German Wikipedia article may prove helpful to producing such ...

de:Blutbuche ... (English translation)

... in addition to what already exists here at Fagus_sylvatica#Cultivation.

For now, I've put in a request to have Copper beech (tree) created as a redirect to Fagus_sylvatica#Cultivation and boldfaced some relevant terms here.

--75.188.199.98 (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2017 (UTC)