Talk:February 8

Selected anniversaries for the "On this day" section of the Main Page

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February 8 Mary, Queen of Scots 1587 – Mary, Queen of Scots (pictured), was executed at Fotheringhay Castle for her involvement in the Babington Plot to murder her cousin, Elizabeth I of England. 1879 – Angered by a controversial umpiring decision, cricket spectators rioted and attacked the England team during a match in Sydney, Australia. 1924 – Gee Jon became the first person in the United States to be executed by lethal gas. 1948 – The closing ceremony of the first Olympics held after World War II was held in St. Moritz, Switzerland. 1968 – Local police in Orangeburg, South Carolina, fired into a crowd of people who were protesting segregation, killing three and injuring twenty-seven others. 1983 – The Irish-bred race horse Shergar was stolen by gunmen, who demanded a £2 million ransom. Daniele Barbaro (b. 1514) Marina de Escobar (b. 1554) Neila Sathyalingam (b. 1938) Walther Bothe (d. 1957) More anniversaries: February 7 February 8 February 9

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I added the 100th anniversary of scouting to the page, shouldn't be too awful since its very notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.62.238.106 (talk) 02:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Births and Deaths

Continuing the ongoing effort to reduce the size of the Births and Deaths sections to make them manageable, I'm removing some celebrities with few or no articles in other wikipedias, moving the entries to the appropriate Year in Topic article if they were not already present. This is in accordance with the guidelines. See discussions at Wikipedia_talk:Days_of_the_year.Deb (talk) 21:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

holidays and observances - Feast of Orthodoxy

The Feast of Orthodoxy is not known as being 42 days before Easter. It is known as being the first Sunday of Lent in the Orthodox calendar. The fact that it is 42 days before Easter is true, but irrelevant to the noteworthiness of the feast. --142.163.194.123 (talk) 17:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

A reliable reference containing the true facts would be really helpful. Deb (talk) 18:49, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Is the website of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America not reliable? If not, what would be?--142.163.194.123 (talk) 02:04, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

no argument against, I shall put it in? I note that tomorrow, "clean Monday", is related to Great Lent. 142.163.195.167 (talk) 14:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, please do, citing that source. Toddst1 (talk) 14:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Notability of events/people

Hi everyone!

I was going through the events and cleaning up the wording/styling and noticed these events (listed below). They don't seem particularly notable based on the content they provide and none of them have any sourcing either so would like to have some additional input regarding them and whether they should be kept/taken off the page.

Events: (putting my comments in bold)

• 1590 – Luis de Carvajal y de la Cueva is tortured by the Inquisition in Mexico, charged with concealing the practice of Judaism in his family. There were many individuals persecuted/tortured by the Inquisition but how does this compare to other instances?
• 1922 – United States President Warren G. Harding introduces the first radio set in the White House.
• 1942 – World War II: The Dutch Colonial Army's General Destruction Unit burns Banjarmasin, South Borneo, to avoid Japanese capture.
• 1955 – The government of Sindh, Pakistan, abolishes the province's Jagirdari system, allowing for one million acres (4,000 km²) of land to be distributed among landless peasants. The other provinces of Pakistan also had the Jagirdari system so how is this particular abolition unique in comparison to the others?
• 1981 – Twenty-one association football spectators are trampled to death at Karaiskakis Stadium in Neo Faliro, Greece, after a football match between Olympiacos F.C. and AEK Athens F.C.
• 1993 – General Motors sues NBC after Dateline NBC allegedly rigs two crashes intended to demonstrate that some GM pickups can easily catch fire if hit in certain places. NBC settles the lawsuit the next day.
• 2005 – Sri Lankan Civil War: Sri Lankan Tamil politician and former MP A. Chandranehru dies of injuries sustained in an ambush the previous day.

These events have sources but I'm skeptical of their broader notability: (my comments in bold)

• 1575 – Leiden University, the oldest university in the Netherlands, is founded and given the motto Praesidium Libertatis. Every country has a "first university" so how is Leiden unique?
• 1978 – Proceedings of the United States Senate are broadcast on radio for the first time. Is this unique in comparison to other countries' legislatures broadcasting for the first time?
• 1996 – The United States Congress passes the Communications Decency Act. Every country has their own internet legislation so how is this law specifically unique?

There's also one person listed in the Deaths section called Dayrolles Eveleigh-de-Moleyns (shown below) which I was able to locate a few incomplete sources but am doubtful over their notability for this article (their Wikipedia article almost entirely consists of his family ties, various searches I've conducted have turned up virtually nothing except a few minor references to his and the only thing which appears to give him his notability is his inherited peerage, which many, many people in the U.K. had at the time (and most British peers don't have their articles listed on DOY articles)).

• 1914 – Dayrolles Eveleigh-de-Moleyns, 4th Baron Ventry, Irish hereditary peer (b. 1828)

Thanks! Dan the Animator 03:37, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@Dantheanimator - thanks for all your work adding/improving citations. Have you made any changes to the above entries? Where there is more than one citation for an entry, do you want to choose which one you think is best, and remove the others, just to reduce the size of the References section? Also, there should not be two entries for Mary, Queen of Scots in both the Events and Deaths sections - could you remove one of them. Thanks! Kiwipete (talk) 03:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kiwipete: thanks for the reply! Regarding the above entries, what do you mean by changes? Since moving them off the article here for discussion, I haven't edited them. If you think any of the above events should be re-added though, feel free to let me know with some reason as to why so we can discuss it I guess.

For the excessive citations, I completely agree (hence some of my recent edits) although I'm not an expert with what is and isn't WP:RS (especially when it comes to non-American sources) so I tend to be overcautious and just leave them all there for other editors with greater familiarity with the sources to decide (the main cases of this are those with the Finnish tabloids, those with museum/book/journal links that I either can't access fully or can't fully assess as to the adequateness as a source). For the sportspeople with multiple sources, if I remember right I add in the other sources since I wasn't sure if ESPN/Premier League's website/FIBA/NHL/etc. were fully reliable. If they are though (which I'm p sure they are), I can cut back there to keep it to one source per person. There's also cases where I had impartial sourcing (the ref would verify the death date but not the birth date and vice versa) so those are probably going to stay as multiple refs unless better sourcing can be found (although trust me, I've tried, it's just very, very tough when it comes to some of these people).

For the Queen Mary entries, thanks for pointing that out! I took out the entry in the death section. Let me know your thoughts on the above. Cheers, Dan the Animator 03:55, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Dantheanimator, I was being lazy when asking about those entries above ;) I now see that they have all been removed, which is what I would have recommended myself. I'm not an expert either with regards to citations, so yes probably better to leave them as they are until someone more knowledgeable can have a look. Kiwipete (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Please add to February 8 birthday list Rui Hachimura

To all admins please added birthday list for is Rui Hachimura, his birthday was dated February 8, 1998. So would like to added to birthday list for February 8? Thanks. Lovemuhcko (talk) 10:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

A citation is essential. Please give a reliable source. Deb (talk) 10:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

RfC on MOS:LEADLENGTH/Wikiproject Consensus

Hey everyone, per the recommendations on the RfC page, I'm posting a link to the RfC I opened on DOY articles and an issue with their lead length here. Here's the brief version of the question for the RfC:

Should the leads of Days Of the Year (DOY) articles be expanded to comply with MOS:LEADLENGTH/WP:FLCR or should those policies be modified to create an exception for DOY articles per the apparent consensus against changing DOY leads?

Link to RfC

I added a expanded explanation of the question on the RfC page so please go there to get a full understanding of the issue. Cheers, Dan the Animator 02:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

In this discussion, as an example, I suggested expanding the lead for this page to include some or all of the following:

"On this day, in 421 CE, Constantius III became co-emporer of the Western Roman Empire, and Mary, Queen of Scots was executed in 1587. During the 20th century, Japan attacked Russia in 1904 and Singapore in 1942 on this date, and in 1946, North Korea officially became a communist state. In 1971, the world's first all-electronic stock market opened on this date.

In the northern hemisphere, February 8th falls in the winter, and in the southern hemisphere, it is summer, according to both astronomical and meteorological reckonings.

In 2025, February 8th will be the 100th anniversary of the birth of Jack Lemmon, American actor (d. 2001), the 200th anniversary of the birth of Henry Walter Bates, English geographer, biologist, and explorer (d. 1892), and the 300th anniversary of the death of Peter the Great, Russian emperor.

The latter paragraph would have to be updated each year. Changing the lead every year is normal in some subjects (e.g., annual events, which often give the date for the upcoming event), but some editors don't think it's worth the bother. Feel free to copy any of this to the article if you'd like to use it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)